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July 23, 2014, 09:29:39 PM
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I fixed the x on the asic in the gui by removing the heatsink and reapplying thermal paste.  However I had the opposite issue others have reported.  There was not enough paste.  Looks like someone got a talking to about using too much and is now being too conservative.  There were large areas of pretty much every chip that had clearly not had any paste on them at all.  I applied paste with an exacto blade to all the chips on both blades and put it back together and now the x is gone.  I'm not sure the hashrate is any better though, still only doing about 430 but its only been a few minutes.

On the bright side it saved you the time of cleaning them up. That took a bit of time for me the other day. Hopefully they will get to 441 for you.

Aah I spoke too soon.  The x is back.  Same chip. 

first what clock?

second what psu?




I tried OC on both but too many HW errors.  So they were both back to stock.  Since this one that had the x went to a - I tried OCing it again and it seems to work at 225 with zero HW but still can't even pull 430 hashrate.  These are both duds.

Forgot to mention the PSU.  Corsair CX750M.  One per miner.

did you re-flash the firmware it brought my 420 up to the 440's with stock setting?

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July 23, 2014, 09:31:18 PM
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I fixed the x on the asic in the gui by removing the heatsink and reapplying thermal paste.  However I had the opposite issue others have reported.  There was not enough paste.  Looks like someone got a talking to about using too much and is now being too conservative.  There were large areas of pretty much every chip that had clearly not had any paste on them at all.  I applied paste with an exacto blade to all the chips on both blades and put it back together and now the x is gone.  I'm not sure the hashrate is any better though, still only doing about 430 but its only been a few minutes.

On the bright side it saved you the time of cleaning them up. That took a bit of time for me the other day. Hopefully they will get to 441 for you.

Aah I spoke too soon.  The x is back.  Same chip.  

first what clock?

second what psu?



I tried OC on both but too many HW errors.  So they were both back to stock.  Since this one that had the x went to a - I tried OCing it again and it seems to work at 225 with zero HW but still can't even pull 430 hashrate.  These are both duds.

Forgot to mention the PSU.  Corsair CX750M.  One per miner.


the psu should be good.  before you flash firmware swap the psu.  maybe you have 2 good psu's and a poor one.

If psu switch is done   and the problem follows the psu it is a psu issue.

if the miner still sucks. try freq 212.5

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July 23, 2014, 09:36:02 PM
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I fixed the x on the asic in the gui by removing the heatsink and reapplying thermal paste.  However I had the opposite issue others have reported.  There was not enough paste.  Looks like someone got a talking to about using too much and is now being too conservative.  There were large areas of pretty much every chip that had clearly not had any paste on them at all.  I applied paste with an exacto blade to all the chips on both blades and put it back together and now the x is gone.  I'm not sure the hashrate is any better though, still only doing about 430 but its only been a few minutes.

On the bright side it saved you the time of cleaning them up. That took a bit of time for me the other day. Hopefully they will get to 441 for you.

Aah I spoke too soon.  The x is back.  Same chip. 

first what clock?

second what psu?




I tried OC on both but too many HW errors.  So they were both back to stock.  Since this one that had the x went to a - I tried OCing it again and it seems to work at 225 with zero HW but still can't even pull 430 hashrate.  These are both duds.

Forgot to mention the PSU.  Corsair CX750M.  One per miner.

did you re-flash the firmware it brought my 420 up to the 440's with stock setting?

I did.  I just edited a post above since I had 3 in a row and didn't want to make it 4.  These things take a lot longer than the S1's to settle into an average hash rate so it's hard to tell how a change does right away.  But I have to leave it as is for tonight since I am taking off.  It's at 225 and not throwing any HW in the first 6 minutes and the average hashrate is 440 at the moment so maybe this one will reach advertised rates.  Overall much less impressed by these than the S1.
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July 23, 2014, 09:41:36 PM
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<snip>

From the datasheet:


Note the line for natural convection, and how current begins to drop off as ambient temperature rises.


So opening them, putting a box fan behind them in a AC room, should help them alot being stable, and better OC performance if possible. right .?

Your chart is meaningless unless we know the devices current requirement.



The chip is spec'd at 9.33W @ .75V - you can do the math on that amiright?
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July 23, 2014, 09:44:14 PM
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The chip is spec'd at 9.33W @ 7.5 0.75V - you can do the math on that amiright?

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July 23, 2014, 09:46:50 PM
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The chip is spec'd at 9.33W @ 7.5 0.75V - you can do the math on that amiright?


hah!@

Edit: fixed, and thanks for pointing that out.
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July 23, 2014, 09:52:30 PM
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Edit: fixed, and thanks for pointing that out.

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July 23, 2014, 10:06:16 PM
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I just received my miners and am very excited.

I was able to connect them to my network and I am able to access the web interface.

I only changed the WAN settings to:

IP Address:  192.168.0.250
subnet:       255.255.255.0
gateway:    192.168.0.1
broadcast:  192.168.0.255

(I did not modify my LAN settings from DHCP)

I added eligius to my #1 pool and removed the others...

Pool 1:  stratum+tcp://stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334   stratum+tcp://stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334
Worker:  Wallet ID
Password: N/A


Click Apply & Save...

Now when I view the Miner Status, everything says "This section contains no values yet"... and is empty.

Any idea why my pool is not being displayed here?  Previously, it had Antminer's pool there and it looked fine...

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July 23, 2014, 10:15:07 PM
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I just received my miners and am very excited.

I was able to connect them to my network and I am able to access the web interface.

I only changed the WAN settings to:

IP Address:  192.168.0.250
subnet:       255.255.255.0
gateway:    192.168.0.1
broadcast:  192.168.0.255

(I did not modify my LAN settings from DHCP)

I added eligius to my #1 pool and removed the others...

Pool 1:  stratum+tcp://stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334   stratum+tcp://stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334
Worker:  Wallet ID
Password: N/A


Click Apply & Save...

Now when I view the Miner Status, everything says "This section contains no values yet"... and is empty.

Any idea why my pool is not being displayed here?  Previously, it had Antminer's pool there and it looked fine...



1. why is your pool info repeated twice?
2. remove stratum+tcp://, just keep stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334
3. maybe add a second pool

save and apply

wait until it beeps, then check
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July 23, 2014, 10:23:44 PM
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1. why is your pool info repeated twice?
2. remove stratum+tcp://, just keep stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334
3. maybe add a second pool

save and apply

wait until it beeps, then check

Sorry, pasted twice by accident...

I tried removing the stratum+tcp://, no change... no beeps either...

Also, when I try diagnostics, tracert and ping both fail.  reports Network unreachable...


My WAN shows activity, my LAN shows no activity and is set to DHCP...  Should I be changing this to a static IP address as well as the WAN address?  (two different IP's???)
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July 23, 2014, 10:32:03 PM
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1. why is your pool info repeated twice?
2. remove stratum+tcp://, just keep stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334
3. maybe add a second pool

save and apply

wait until it beeps, then check

Sorry, pasted twice by accident...

I tried removing the stratum+tcp://, no change... no beeps either...

Also, when I try diagnostics, tracert and ping both fail.  reports Network unreachable...


My WAN shows activity, my LAN shows no activity and is set to DHCP...  Should I be changing this to a static IP address as well as the WAN address?  (two different IP's???)

is your router on 192.168.1.1?
do you have other miner that might be on 192.168.1.99?
bold numbers should be the same for router and miner, but could be different from standard
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July 23, 2014, 10:39:38 PM
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1. why is your pool info repeated twice?
2. remove stratum+tcp://, just keep stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334
3. maybe add a second pool

save and apply

wait until it beeps, then check

Sorry, pasted twice by accident...

I tried removing the stratum+tcp://, no change... no beeps either...

Also, when I try diagnostics, tracert and ping both fail.  reports Network unreachable...


My WAN shows activity, my LAN shows no activity and is set to DHCP...  Should I be changing this to a static IP address as well as the WAN address?  (two different IP's???)

is your router on 192.168.1.1?
do you have other miner that might be on 192.168.1.99?
bold numbers should be the same for router and miner, but could be different from standard

Good call Bio, bytechanger, log in to your router (what router/broad band provider is it?) and check the Default Gateway setting.

My router for example is 192.168.1.254 (most common is 192.169.1.1) - you need to set whatever this 'Default Gateway' ip address from your router in you miner config 'gateway' address.

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July 23, 2014, 10:41:09 PM
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bitmain has gained greatly in value from yesterday up to today.  the sp30 is a bust.  no one knows had big of a bust yet but it is a bust.  the ceo the the company admitted so on the sp30 thread.

 so will it hash at 4th and pull 2400 watts.

 it is not going to do the promised 6th.

we also do not know what the efficiency will drop to.  .6 watts  .7 watts?

 this means the s-3 has jumped up in value.  How big a jump depends on how bad the sp30 turns out to be.

As a s-3 owner this will also help with the diff.



This is a very big deal and has serious consequences for the home miner.

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July 23, 2014, 10:45:26 PM
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bitmain has gained greatly in value from yesterday up to today.  the sp30 is a bust.  no one knows had big of a bust yet but it is a bust.  the ceo the the company admitted so on the sp30 thread.

 so will it hash at 4th and pull 2400 watts.

 it is not going to do the promised 6th.

we also do not know what the efficiency will drop to.  .6 watts  .7 watts?

 this means the s-3 has jumped up in value.  How big a jump depends on how bad the sp30 turns out to be.

As a s-3 owner this will also help with the diff.



This is a very big deal and has serious consequences for the home miner.



unless knc will get off their buttocks and make something competitive price-wise.
But, I agree, suddenly Bitmain has the best product (when up to specs) for a reasonable price.
I am enjoying lower jumps and feeling great about not selling the S2.
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July 23, 2014, 10:52:05 PM
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1. why is your pool info repeated twice?
2. remove stratum+tcp://, just keep stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334
3. maybe add a second pool

save and apply

wait until it beeps, then check

Sorry, pasted twice by accident...

I tried removing the stratum+tcp://, no change... no beeps either...

Also, when I try diagnostics, tracert and ping both fail.  reports Network unreachable...


My WAN shows activity, my LAN shows no activity and is set to DHCP...  Should I be changing this to a static IP address as well as the WAN address?  (two different IP's???)

is your router on 192.168.1.1?
do you have other miner that might be on 192.168.1.99?
bold numbers should be the same for router and miner, but could be different from standard

Good call Bio, bytechanger, log in to your router (what router/broad band provider is it?) and check the Default Gateway setting.

My router for example is 192.168.1.254 (most common is 192.169.1.1) - you need to set whatever this 'Default Gateway' ip address from your router in you miner config 'gateway' address.


figured it out...

Apparently you have to put in a password AND you must fill in all 3 pool's, otherwise no data appears in miner status...

Anyone know a couple of good pools I should use for backup?
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July 23, 2014, 10:55:55 PM
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good stuff - slush could do with some hashes

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July 23, 2014, 10:57:50 PM
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The chip is spec'd at 9.33W @ 7.5 0.75V - you can do the math on that amiright?


thats about 12.5A per chip with 2 chips per regulator - only about 25A draw or so which is well within the limits of the TPS53355. Either bitmain got some crappy/knockoff regulators or the problem is something else.

in the S1 the TPS53355 was able to push 35A without issues in most miners.

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July 23, 2014, 11:04:11 PM
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figured it out...

Apparently you have to put in a password AND you must fill in all 3 pool's, otherwise no data appears in miner status...

Anyone know a couple of good pools I should use for backup?

You should be able to use the same credentials and pools for all 3. Smiley

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July 23, 2014, 11:11:27 PM
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bitmain has gained greatly in value from yesterday up to today.  the sp30 is a bust.  no one knows had big of a bust yet but it is a bust.  the ceo the the company admitted so on the sp30 thread.

 so will it hash at 4th and pull 2400 watts.

 it is not going to do the promised 6th.

we also do not know what the efficiency will drop to.  .6 watts  .7 watts?

 this means the s-3 has jumped up in value.  How big a jump depends on how bad the sp30 turns out to be.

As a s-3 owner this will also help with the diff.



This is a very big deal and has serious consequences for the home miner.



He forgot to say the CEO also said that this would not impact delivery dates.

So if its slightly less than 6TH and slightly more than 0.5watts the overall effect will not be that different to everyone else than if they had delivered on spec.

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July 23, 2014, 11:25:07 PM
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He forgot to say the CEO also said that this would not impact delivery dates.

So if its slightly less than 6TH and slightly more than 0.5watts the overall effect will not be that different to everyone else than if they had delivered on spec.

It will have quite a big effect on how much performance they can get out of 1 SP30 though since they are limited to the 2400W of power available, kind of relevant since the Spoon-goons have been all over the forums telling everyone about their amazing performance density and efficiency.

"slightly less than 6TH and slightly more than 0.5watts" Simply wont happen due to the PSU constraints, even at 0,45W/gh they would be limited to 5,3TH/SP3
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