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July 25, 2014, 01:33:54 AM
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If you have a unit with just 1 chip causing you problems, try throwing it overboard and see how far you can get. Just came across a unit that had a chip that needed 200MHz to keep the chip alive but the unit will do 237MHz if you just let it stay dead.
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July 25, 2014, 01:45:14 AM
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Shipping is included. I prefer DHL over UPS. You have a choice.

Just put down for two more on batch 5. I bet Bitmain is betting on another few rounds of low difficulty jumps to justify the slight decrease in price between batches. Judging by how much of the network they can control when they batch test, I'm going to bet the price is probably in line with expected network growth.

It all depends on how you calculate your ROI. If you have a bunch of equipment that's already paid for itself, you can choose to calculate that hash towards your most recent purchase and write off the hardware much sooner. Much easier to calculate any gains down the road that way.

...it also might involve a little bit of lying to yourself too, but trust me it's much more fun this way.

Are there special procedures for ordering? What am I missing here?
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July 25, 2014, 01:51:50 AM
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How safe is it to power one blade with a power supply while powering the other blade with another one?

From https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140724130242972en240AMe064E it says "Don’t parallel connected different DC input from different PSU into the same Hashing board."

Does that mean different hashing boards are okay?
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July 25, 2014, 01:52:17 AM
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Shipping is included. I prefer DHL over UPS. You have a choice.

Just put down for two more on batch 5. I bet Bitmain is betting on another few rounds of low difficulty jumps to justify the slight decrease in price between batches. Judging by how much of the network they can control when they batch test, I'm going to bet the price is probably in line with expected network growth.

It all depends on how you calculate your ROI. If you have a bunch of equipment that's already paid for itself, you can choose to calculate that hash towards your most recent purchase and write off the hardware much sooner. Much easier to calculate any gains down the road that way.

...it also might involve a little bit of lying to yourself too, but trust me it's much more fun this way.

Are there special procedures for ordering? What am I missing here?

special procedures:

1. get/have BTC
2. go to bitmaintech.com, make an account
3. login
4. order
5. start to write "are we there yet" type messages on BTCTalk-I wrote a few myself.
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July 25, 2014, 01:53:42 AM
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Shipping is included. I prefer DHL over UPS. You have a choice.

Just put down for two more on batch 5. I bet Bitmain is betting on another few rounds of low difficulty jumps to justify the slight decrease in price between batches. Judging by how much of the network they can control when they batch test, I'm going to bet the price is probably in line with expected network growth.

It all depends on how you calculate your ROI. If you have a bunch of equipment that's already paid for itself, you can choose to calculate that hash towards your most recent purchase and write off the hardware much sooner. Much easier to calculate any gains down the road that way.

...it also might involve a little bit of lying to yourself too, but trust me it's much more fun this way.

Are there special procedures for ordering? What am I missing here?
no, just order them and send bitmain the btc within 15 mins. Make sure your address is right so they can ship it to you. Simple, straightforward, and the product is awesome. I love these new units.
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July 25, 2014, 02:07:44 AM
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1) What's up with the Wifi options in the networking tab? Is this for potential wifi expansion? Was surprised when I seemed to be able to connect o my wifi network with them, but ya must have 'connected' just through my wired connections.  Anyways just want to make sure that there is no wifi right.


You need an antenna, but it has wifi built in.

Is the wifi set up the same as with the S1's?  I don't see this anywhere in the doc nor do is see the SME connector in the pics.  Just bought five S3s (batch 5) and have been running seven S1s on WiFi with absolutely no issues for months.  Thought I was going to have to hardwire for the S3s, but would love to avoid doing so, if possible/practical.  Is anyone actually running S3s on WiFi?  If so, are there any issues to be aware of?
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July 25, 2014, 02:07:57 AM
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Ok, I am in! Just order 2 S3 from Batch 5.....dammit batch 4 sold out quick!!!

August 7th aint that far off.....hehe!

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July 25, 2014, 02:09:30 AM
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1) What's up with the Wifi options in the networking tab? Is this for potential wifi expansion? Was surprised when I seemed to be able to connect o my wifi network with them, but ya must have 'connected' just through my wired connections.  Anyways just want to make sure that there is no wifi right.


You need an antenna, but it has wifi built in.

Is the wifi set up the same as with the S1's?  I don't see this anywhere in the doc nor do is see the SME connector in the pics.  Just bought five S3s (batch 5) and have been running seven S1s on WiFi with absolutely no issues for months.  Thought I was going to have to hardwire for the S3s, but would love to avoid doing so, if possible/practical.  Is anyone actually running S3s on WiFi?  If so, are there any issues to be aware of?


I'm running one S3 on wifi and another hard wired, but that's because it can't get the signal strong enough for the wifi where it has to be located for the time being. The one running wifi isn't using an antennae.
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July 25, 2014, 02:16:22 AM
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Is there anything that can be done for this, its my B2 shipment that has been stuck in China customs forever, emailed Bitmain but noreply yet. This is while B3 on UPS is scheduled to arrive on Monday 07/28...

Shenzhen, China   07/24/2014   4:10 P.M.   Warehouse Scan
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07/22/2014   8:04 P.M.   Your package is delayed at export and is awaiting release from customs.
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07/21/2014   8:57 P.M.   Your shipment was not processed by brokerage and has not cleared customs. This has caused a delay.
07/21/2014   8:56 P.M.   Your shipment was not processed by brokerage and has not cleared customs. This has caused a delay.
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07/19/2014   5:34 A.M.   The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release.
Shenzhen, China   07/19/2014   5:02 P.M.   Pickup Scan
China   07/19/2014   4:08 A.M.   Order Processed: Ready for UPS

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July 25, 2014, 02:18:42 AM
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1) What's up with the Wifi options in the networking tab? Is this for potential wifi expansion? Was surprised when I seemed to be able to connect o my wifi network with them, but ya must have 'connected' just through my wired connections.  Anyways just want to make sure that there is no wifi right.


You need an antenna, but it has wifi built in.

Is the wifi set up the same as with the S1's?  I don't see this anywhere in the doc nor do is see the SME connector in the pics.  Just bought five S3s (batch 5) and have been running seven S1s on WiFi with absolutely no issues for months.  Thought I was going to have to hardwire for the S3s, but would love to avoid doing so, if possible/practical.  Is anyone actually running S3s on WiFi?  If so, are there any issues to be aware of?


I'm running one S3 on wifi and another hard wired, but that's because it can't get the signal strong enough for the wifi where it has to be located for the time being. The one running wifi isn't using an antennae.

So does the S3 have an SMA connector for an antenna?  It looks like this:

http://www.active-robots.com/right-angled-pcb-sma-connector
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July 25, 2014, 02:21:59 AM
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1) What's up with the Wifi options in the networking tab? Is this for potential wifi expansion? Was surprised when I seemed to be able to connect o my wifi network with them, but ya must have 'connected' just through my wired connections.  Anyways just want to make sure that there is no wifi right.


You need an antenna, but it has wifi built in.

Is the wifi set up the same as with the S1's?  I don't see this anywhere in the doc nor do is see the SME connector in the pics.  Just bought five S3s (batch 5) and have been running seven S1s on WiFi with absolutely no issues for months.  Thought I was going to have to hardwire for the S3s, but would love to avoid doing so, if possible/practical.  Is anyone actually running S3s on WiFi?  If so, are there any issues to be aware of?


I'm running one S3 on wifi and another hard wired, but that's because it can't get the signal strong enough for the wifi where it has to be located for the time being. The one running wifi isn't using an antennae.

So does the S3 have an SMA connector for an antenna?  It looks like this:

http://www.active-robots.com/right-angled-pcb-sma-connector


Yes but you have to open the case and keep it that way. They were too lazy/cheap to connect a pigtail.
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July 25, 2014, 02:25:18 AM
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1) What's up with the Wifi options in the networking tab? Is this for potential wifi expansion? Was surprised when I seemed to be able to connect o my wifi network with them, but ya must have 'connected' just through my wired connections.  Anyways just want to make sure that there is no wifi right.


You need an antenna, but it has wifi built in.

Is the wifi set up the same as with the S1's?  I don't see this anywhere in the doc nor do is see the SME connector in the pics.  Just bought five S3s (batch 5) and have been running seven S1s on WiFi with absolutely no issues for months.  Thought I was going to have to hardwire for the S3s, but would love to avoid doing so, if possible/practical.  Is anyone actually running S3s on WiFi?  If so, are there any issues to be aware of?


I'm running one S3 on wifi and another hard wired, but that's because it can't get the signal strong enough for the wifi where it has to be located for the time being. The one running wifi isn't using an antennae.

So does the S3 have an SMA connector for an antenna?  It looks like this:

http://www.active-robots.com/right-angled-pcb-sma-connector


Yes but you have to open the case and keep it that way. They were too lazy/cheap to connect a pigtail.

i wonder if you could just drill a small hole
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July 25, 2014, 02:29:33 AM
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Dang these things also got wifi? WOW!

Ok mine shows paid after 20 mins....Bitmain is on point!


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July 25, 2014, 02:35:11 AM
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1) What's up with the Wifi options in the networking tab? Is this for potential wifi expansion? Was surprised when I seemed to be able to connect o my wifi network with them, but ya must have 'connected' just through my wired connections.  Anyways just want to make sure that there is no wifi right.


You need an antenna, but it has wifi built in.

Is the wifi set up the same as with the S1's?  I don't see this anywhere in the doc nor do is see the SME connector in the pics.  Just bought five S3s (batch 5) and have been running seven S1s on WiFi with absolutely no issues for months.  Thought I was going to have to hardwire for the S3s, but would love to avoid doing so, if possible/practical.  Is anyone actually running S3s on WiFi?  If so, are there any issues to be aware of?


I'm running one S3 on wifi and another hard wired, but that's because it can't get the signal strong enough for the wifi where it has to be located for the time being. The one running wifi isn't using an antennae.

So does the S3 have an SMA connector for an antenna?  It looks like this:

http://www.active-robots.com/right-angled-pcb-sma-connector


Yes but you have to open the case and keep it that way. They were too lazy/cheap to connect a pigtail.

i wonder if you could just drill a small hole

Hmmm...I know the case is critical to maintaining airflow / cooling, so I definitely don't want to take it off permanently.  Depending on where the SMA connector is positioned, I might just try to drill a hole (probably not so small) in one, connect an antenna and see what happens to the temps.  If anyone has a pic or can describe the position of the SMA connector, that would be very helpful. For example, is it in the same place as on the S1s?  Thanks in advance.
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July 25, 2014, 02:46:57 AM
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...  Seems to go down after a few hours...

I have this same issue with one of mine.  Does fine for a while then tanks until I reboot, then fine again for a while.  The amount of time it runs fine seems to vary A LOT.  Sometimes short, sometimes for hours on end.  But so far it always eventually tanks to sub 300 Ghs until I reboot it.  No x's or -'s in the GUI.  Not sure what to make of it.
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July 25, 2014, 02:56:38 AM
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Got mine yesterday.  One work fine at 449G per pool stat., but the other one is not working  Sad

Half of the ASIC was xxxxx.  I tried to change psu, cable, shutdown the one working and switch to this one (in case my new RM1000 is not working or not have capacity), reset it, change ethernet cable.  I even change the place 20 km apart!  Nothing work. 

I did show it got all 3 workers alive and the first one even get work (but discard them all).  Pool stat. said it was touched in 11 hours ago but not lately.  I double check the tailoring is the same (DHCP etc.) and hence it might not be mine.

(I did open the case see whether there is any thermal paste.  Nothing.  Hence not for that reason.)

Have to get back to Bitman for maintenance.  A bit disappointed.  6 S1 since April is all fine and hence may have too high expectation on its working.


Solved by install the firmware to get the "failover" menu (which the shipped one menu does not have it).  Did install 2 times as the first time preserve the settings does not work.  They are both 430G+.  Cheers!
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July 25, 2014, 03:02:14 AM
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Is there anything that can be done for this, its my B2 shipment that has been stuck in China customs forever, emailed Bitmain but noreply yet. This is while B3 on UPS is scheduled to arrive on Monday 07/28...

Shenzhen, China   07/24/2014   4:10 P.M.   Warehouse Scan
Shenzhen, China   07/23/2014   4:19 P.M.   Warehouse Scan
07/22/2014   8:04 P.M.   Your package is delayed at export and is awaiting release from customs.
Shenzhen, China   07/21/2014   11:46 P.M.   Warehouse Scan
07/21/2014   8:57 P.M.   Your shipment was not processed by brokerage and has not cleared customs. This has caused a delay.
07/21/2014   8:56 P.M.   Your shipment was not processed by brokerage and has not cleared customs. This has caused a delay.
Shenzhen, China   07/19/2014   11:56 P.M.   Arrival Scan
07/19/2014   11:55 P.M.   Departure Scan
07/19/2014   11:22 P.M.   Origin Scan
07/19/2014   5:34 A.M.   The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release.
Shenzhen, China   07/19/2014   5:02 P.M.   Pickup Scan
China   07/19/2014   4:08 A.M.   Order Processed: Ready for UPS

I think item is not clear about something as manufacture, origins, specifications, invoice...
Customs do not accept to export/import it.
If it will be exported from china, i think when it go to your country, it will have same problems with customs in your country
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July 25, 2014, 03:07:07 AM
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I really wish Bitmain would make a post about Batch 4 and the reported issues we've had with the first three batches.

Not sure if I should take the refund or coupon. Performance is less than 7.7% difference on some units, it appears ~33.33% (3 repeating, of course...) of the units exhibit performance below the stated 441GH/s, and the random beeping... OH THE BEEPING... WHY GOD, WHY !?!???

I wish there was a way to BUY from bitmaintech without it just selling out instantly Tongue

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July 25, 2014, 03:07:32 AM
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Here's a $10usd fix for WiFi. Enough for two S3's. Drill one hole, instal pigtail and your done!!!


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July 25, 2014, 03:25:40 AM
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As for WiFi, I posted some pics way back when I got my B1 S3s (pretty sure I was the first! Tongue), showing the controller board with the U.FL connector on it. Can't remember which page it was on but yes, I can confirm WiFi does work, and all you need is a pigtail and antenna. I was going to drill a hole but never got around to it, instead the pigtail is hanging out the same gap the fan wires come from. Might do a more permanent upgrade on my two new B4 units that will be coming my way.

Also, query for Bitmain:
Is the version of CGMiner on the units going to be upgraded any time soon? I'd love to see a more recent version of it or BFGMiner available, preferably one which doesn't absolutely kill the CPU usage on the controller board.

Probably should put something here.... Maybe an LTC address?
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