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July 24, 2014, 06:59:39 AM
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Well, the only thing broken is that the webinterface isn´t available anymore.

It runs at around 505GH average after I put small heatsinks on the DCDCs (I had them lying around) and some overclocking, obviously.

Erm how do I reflash the firmware from SSH....


Interesting. I'm going to do the following:
- hook a scope probe to U25 on each side and see if there's anything interesting there (dropouts etc.)
- I'll put heatsinks on the regs of one side of the miner only, and see if there's a measurable difference (or attempt to). Heatsinks will go on the top surface of the regs only for now. Lots of space on/around the top; not as crammed as other designs.

I'll post some thermals later on or tomorrow AM
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July 24, 2014, 07:07:11 AM
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Well, the only thing broken is that the webinterface isn´t available anymore.

It runs at around 505GH average after I put small heatsinks on the DCDCs (I had them lying around) and some overclocking, obviously.

Erm how do I reflash the firmware from SSH....


Interesting. I'm going to do the following:
- hook a scope probe to U25 on each side and see if there's anything interesting there (dropouts etc.)
- I'll put heatsinks on the regs of one side of the miner only, and see if there's a measurable difference (or attempt to). Heatsinks will go on the top surface of the regs only for now. Lots of space on/around the top; not as crammed as other designs.

I'll post some thermals later on or tomorrow AM
To be fair, I didn´t do any exact thermal measurments (or exact GH measurements) on my DCDCs, so it could possibly have worked at that GH without the additional heatsinks.

I just had them lying around and thought additional heatsinks couldn´t possibly lower the hashrates, so I attached them.

I was also thinking about maybe reapplying thermal paste, but without access to my webinterface I couldn´t even say whether that lowered temps.

When I open the unit the next time I can take some pics.
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July 24, 2014, 07:10:16 AM
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Well, the only thing broken is that the webinterface isn´t available anymore.

It runs at around 505GH average after I put small heatsinks on the DCDCs (I had them lying around) and some overclocking, obviously.

Erm how do I reflash the firmware from SSH....


Interesting. I'm going to do the following:
- hook a scope probe to U25 on each side and see if there's anything interesting there (dropouts etc.)
- I'll put heatsinks on the regs of one side of the miner only, and see if there's a measurable difference (or attempt to). Heatsinks will go on the top surface of the regs only for now. Lots of space on/around the top; not as crammed as other designs.

I'll post some thermals later on or tomorrow AM
To be fair, I didn´t do any exact thermal measurments (or exact GH measurements) on my DCDCs, so it could have worked at that GH without the additional heatsinks.

I just had them lying around and thought additional heatsinks couldn´t possibly lower the hashrates, so I attached them.

Yeah, they're not going to hurt anything - unless one comes loose and shorts the reg to ground Smiley

I was going to do some measurements anyways, and it only took a few minutes to stick on some heatsinks. This particular miner is the dog of the litter (high error rate) and I'm interested to see if that's easily fixed.
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July 24, 2014, 07:13:30 AM
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I see my coupons now .075btc x 3

when do they expire? expiration date is useful to know since it will give an indication when they will be available again for batch 4.

I predict there will be a big drop in price for batch 5, the reason is simple for batch 4 there are a lot of coupons for the people that did not want the refund which reduces the need for price reduction beyond the 7.7% for drop hash rate, and another 9% for difficulty increase, but as expected they will sell out quickly, for batch 5  all the coupons will be gone, and further increases in difficulty will force them to drop the price further, and by then mostly everyone that wanted one will have at least one, once they start selling from stock is when prices will be the lowest, just like it happened with the S1, history repeats. currently the s3 is the best deal for the money that I am aware of.


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July 24, 2014, 07:14:11 AM
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New sales will be open tonight 22:00 (UCT +8:00). The shipping date will be before the August 2nd. The price is 0.63BTC per unit.

Coupons will be ready soon. Refund of B1~B3 is in process as well.


WhoooHooo!!

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July 24, 2014, 07:18:25 AM
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I see my coupons now .075btc x 3

when do they expire? expiration date is useful to know since it will give an indication when they will be available again for batch 4.

I predict there will be a big drop in price for batch 5, the reason is simple for batch 4 there are a lot of coupons for the people that did not want the refund which reduces the need for price reduction beyond the 7.7% for drop hash rate, and another 9% for difficulty increase, but as expected they will sell out quickly, for batch 5  all the coupons will be gone, and further increases in difficulty will force them to drop the price further, and by then mostly everyone that wanted one will have at least one, once they start selling from stock is when prices will be the lowest, just like it happened with the S1, history repeats. currently the s3 is the best deal for the money that I am aware of.




for me, validity time:

2014-07-12 00:00:00~2014-08-16 00:00:00

What do you recommend me guys then if i plan to run 2 S3 at 212,50 Frequency(~424,81 GH/s? - 362W / each, 724 W total). Use 1 corsair CX750W for 2 S3 with that frequency(212,50 - 362 W), or 1 corsair for each S3, and buy i dont know a 1000W new PSU for 2 more S3.

thanks
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July 24, 2014, 07:29:37 AM
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One of the temps on my s3 is showing 248 which is keeping the fans at full speed. Otherwise it seems to be working. Anyone else have this problem?
What are you baking in there? It should shut off at 80C. Both of mine are no higher than 41C. Either the temperature gauge is way off or you've got thermal paste spread all over it like peanut butter.

It's still set to shut off at 80c, it never has though. Now it's reporting 1c for the temp and the fans are running slower then my other units.
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July 24, 2014, 07:33:18 AM
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I see my coupons now .075btc x 3

when do they expire? expiration date is useful to know since it will give an indication when they will be available again for batch 4.

I predict there will be a big drop in price for batch 5, the reason is simple for batch 4 there are a lot of coupons for the people that did not want the refund which reduces the need for price reduction beyond the 7.7% for drop hash rate, and another 9% for difficulty increase, but as expected they will sell out quickly, for batch 5  all the coupons will be gone, and further increases in difficulty will force them to drop the price further, and by then mostly everyone that wanted one will have at least one, once they start selling from stock is when prices will be the lowest, just like it happened with the S1, history repeats. currently the s3 is the best deal for the money that I am aware of.




for me, validity time:

2014-07-12 00:00:00~2014-08-16 00:00:00

What do you recommend me guys then if i plan to run 2 S3 at 212,50 Frequency(~424,81 GH/s? - 362W / each, 724 W total). Use 1 corsair CX750W for 2 S3 with that frequency(212,50 - 362 W), or 1 corsair for each S3, and buy i dont know a 1000W new PSU for 2 more S3.

thanks

I recommend the antec hcp1300 platinum it is very good and has 16ga cables, a total of 10 pci-e connectors.
I have used it with 3 s1, and now using it with 2 s3, it can easily handle 3 s3.
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July 24, 2014, 07:36:20 AM
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I see my coupons now .075btc x 3

when do they expire? expiration date is useful to know since it will give an indication when they will be available again for batch 4.

I predict there will be a big drop in price for batch 5, the reason is simple for batch 4 there are a lot of coupons for the people that did not want the refund which reduces the need for price reduction beyond the 7.7% for drop hash rate, and another 9% for difficulty increase, but as expected they will sell out quickly, for batch 5  all the coupons will be gone, and further increases in difficulty will force them to drop the price further, and by then mostly everyone that wanted one will have at least one, once they start selling from stock is when prices will be the lowest, just like it happened with the S1, history repeats. currently the s3 is the best deal for the money that I am aware of.




for me, validity time:

2014-07-12 00:00:00~2014-08-16 00:00:00

What do you recommend me guys then if i plan to run 2 S3 at 212,50 Frequency(~424,81 GH/s? - 362W / each, 724 W total). Use 1 corsair CX750W for 2 S3 with that frequency(212,50 - 362 W), or 1 corsair for each S3, and buy i dont know a 1000W new PSU for 2 more S3.

thanks

I recommend the antec hcp1300 platinum it is very good and has 16ga cables, a total of 10 pci-e connectors.
I have used it with 3 s1, and now using it with 2 s3, it can easily handle 3 s3.

But you can use it with 3 S3 as long as you dont overclock them, right? because with OC = 4x3 = 12 PCIE and you say it has 10 PCIE. I dont want to OC, i will just run it at stock frequency i suppose. Anyways, small changes in frequency requiere also 4 PCIE?? i mean whats stock frequency? 225??if i change to 237,5 i need 4 PCIE? thanks
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July 24, 2014, 07:40:17 AM
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I see my coupons now .075btc x 3

when do they expire? expiration date is useful to know since it will give an indication when they will be available again for batch 4.

I predict there will be a big drop in price for batch 5, the reason is simple for batch 4 there are a lot of coupons for the people that did not want the refund which reduces the need for price reduction beyond the 7.7% for drop hash rate, and another 9% for difficulty increase, but as expected they will sell out quickly, for batch 5  all the coupons will be gone, and further increases in difficulty will force them to drop the price further, and by then mostly everyone that wanted one will have at least one, once they start selling from stock is when prices will be the lowest, just like it happened with the S1, history repeats. currently the s3 is the best deal for the money that I am aware of.




for me, validity time:

2014-07-12 00:00:00~2014-08-16 00:00:00

What do you recommend me guys then if i plan to run 2 S3 at 212,50 Frequency(~424,81 GH/s? - 362W / each, 724 W total). Use 1 corsair CX750W for 2 S3 with that frequency(212,50 - 362 W), or 1 corsair for each S3, and buy i dont know a 1000W new PSU for 2 more S3.

thanks

another really good power supply is the xfx 1250 gold, that could easily handle 3 s3  but unlike the antec it only has 8 pci-e connectors, however you would have to use a single pci-e connector for most blades, and it cost a little less than the antec.

Both antec and xfx I have used them in the past under an extreme environment with great success.
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July 24, 2014, 07:41:14 AM
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WTB: 10% off coupons you don't intend to use.. Nothing crazy, but will pay in BTC.. PM me with # and offer .

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July 24, 2014, 07:44:19 AM
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I see my coupons now .075btc x 3

when do they expire? expiration date is useful to know since it will give an indication when they will be available again for batch 4.

I predict there will be a big drop in price for batch 5, the reason is simple for batch 4 there are a lot of coupons for the people that did not want the refund which reduces the need for price reduction beyond the 7.7% for drop hash rate, and another 9% for difficulty increase, but as expected they will sell out quickly, for batch 5  all the coupons will be gone, and further increases in difficulty will force them to drop the price further, and by then mostly everyone that wanted one will have at least one, once they start selling from stock is when prices will be the lowest, just like it happened with the S1, history repeats. currently the s3 is the best deal for the money that I am aware of.




for me, validity time:

2014-07-12 00:00:00~2014-08-16 00:00:00

What do you recommend me guys then if i plan to run 2 S3 at 212,50 Frequency(~424,81 GH/s? - 362W / each, 724 W total). Use 1 corsair CX750W for 2 S3 with that frequency(212,50 - 362 W), or 1 corsair for each S3, and buy i dont know a 1000W new PSU for 2 more S3.

thanks

another really good power supply is the xfx 1250 gold, that could easily handle 3 s3  but unlike the antec it only has 8 pci-e connectors, however you would have to use a single pci-e connector for most blades, and it cost a little less than the antec.

Both antec and xfx I have used them in the past under an extreme environment with great success.


Thanks both. i will check prizes. im from madrid, spain, and prizes here in europe change Tongue and i cant buy many products from USA because they dont deliver here.
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July 24, 2014, 07:45:30 AM
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I see my coupons now .075btc x 3

when do they expire? expiration date is useful to know since it will give an indication when they will be available again for batch 4.

I predict there will be a big drop in price for batch 5, the reason is simple for batch 4 there are a lot of coupons for the people that did not want the refund which reduces the need for price reduction beyond the 7.7% for drop hash rate, and another 9% for difficulty increase, but as expected they will sell out quickly, for batch 5  all the coupons will be gone, and further increases in difficulty will force them to drop the price further, and by then mostly everyone that wanted one will have at least one, once they start selling from stock is when prices will be the lowest, just like it happened with the S1, history repeats. currently the s3 is the best deal for the money that I am aware of.




for me, validity time:

2014-07-12 00:00:00~2014-08-16 00:00:00

What do you recommend me guys then if i plan to run 2 S3 at 212,50 Frequency(~424,81 GH/s? - 362W / each, 724 W total). Use 1 corsair CX750W for 2 S3 with that frequency(212,50 - 362 W), or 1 corsair for each S3, and buy i dont know a 1000W new PSU for 2 more S3.

thanks

I recommend the antec hcp1300 platinum it is very good and has 16ga cables, a total of 10 pci-e connectors.
I have used it with 3 s1, and now using it with 2 s3, it can easily handle 3 s3.

But you can use it with 3 S3 as long as you dont overclock them, right? because with OC = 4x3 = 12 PCIE and you say it has 10 PCIE. I dont want to OC, i will just run it at stock frequency i suppose. Anyways, small changes in frequency requiere also 4 PCIE?? i mean whats stock frequency? 225??if i change to 237,5 i need 4 PCIE? thanks

well for overclocking all 3, you would need 12 pci-e connectors, so it would not be possible to overclock all 3 unless if buying the cables from some other source. but you could overclock 2 of the 3, and I am sure a moderate overclock in a cool environment will not be a problem with a single pci-e connector instead of the 2.
so it is possible to overclock 2, and 1 at stock speed.
 
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I will buy coupons for the S3 as soon as they become available.
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July 24, 2014, 07:57:18 AM
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I see my coupons now .075btc x 3

when do they expire? expiration date is useful to know since it will give an indication when they will be available again for batch 4.

I predict there will be a big drop in price for batch 5, the reason is simple for batch 4 there are a lot of coupons for the people that did not want the refund which reduces the need for price reduction beyond the 7.7% for drop hash rate, and another 9% for difficulty increase, but as expected they will sell out quickly, for batch 5  all the coupons will be gone, and further increases in difficulty will force them to drop the price further, and by then mostly everyone that wanted one will have at least one, once they start selling from stock is when prices will be the lowest, just like it happened with the S1, history repeats. currently the s3 is the best deal for the money that I am aware of.




for me, validity time:

2014-07-12 00:00:00~2014-08-16 00:00:00

What do you recommend me guys then if i plan to run 2 S3 at 212,50 Frequency(~424,81 GH/s? - 362W / each, 724 W total). Use 1 corsair CX750W for 2 S3 with that frequency(212,50 - 362 W), or 1 corsair for each S3, and buy i dont know a 1000W new PSU for 2 more S3.

thanks
I thought they consumed ~360w for the ~480gh?

Is everyone else getting this high of power consumption at that low of speeds?

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July 24, 2014, 08:12:19 AM
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Ok thanks so much. Time  to check prizes now Wink
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what do i need to run one of these
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do i need a psu? what do i use to control it?
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July 24, 2014, 08:22:44 AM
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do i need a psu? what do i use to control it?

You need:

a PSU of at least 600w bronze per s3. (i'm using a 100w gold PSU for my 2)

and a web browser to go to the ip of the miners for configuration purposes (default 192.168.1.99)
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July 24, 2014, 08:29:05 AM
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I really wish Bitmain would make a post about Batch 4 and the reported issues we've had with the first three batches.

Not sure if I should take the refund or coupon. Performance is less than 7.7% difference on some units, it appears ~33.33% (3 repeating, of course...) of the units exhibit performance below the stated 441GH/s, and the random beeping... OH THE BEEPING... WHY GOD, WHY !?!???
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