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March 20, 2012, 05:30:01 PM
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Hey my friend,

you haven' given me any love yet for my 10/6/11 call that stocks would clear the May highs.  i only ask cuz you publicly disagreed with me at the time.   Grin

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Cograts to the great call. And now we are finally aligned :-)

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March 20, 2012, 05:36:25 PM
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oh my.

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do tell.

Edit: I may be confusing you with someone else cypherdoc but why isnt today just another check mark rally day?
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March 20, 2012, 06:45:28 PM
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AAPL back over $600...
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March 20, 2012, 07:10:12 PM
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AAPL back over $600...

Thanks for the hourly update... Let me know how that's working for you in a couple weeks.

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March 20, 2012, 07:42:31 PM
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AAPL back over $600...

Thanks for the hourly update... Let me know how that's working for you in a couple weeks.

Its a bit more than an hourly update...  Its the biggest, most watched stock in the game right now...  600 is an all-time high as well as a psycologically nice round number for people...

You could just give me the $200 instead of losing it...

EDIT, Disclaimer: I sounded like a dick, and I probably dont know what Im talking about
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March 20, 2012, 07:45:57 PM
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oh my again.
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March 20, 2012, 07:49:13 PM
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oh my again.

lol so coy you are...
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March 20, 2012, 08:33:54 PM
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Today was a hanging man. Maybe apple is hung tomorrow...


http://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hangingman.asp#axzz1pguH7KSk




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March 20, 2012, 08:35:57 PM
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Today was a hanging man. Maybe apple is hung tomorrow...


http://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hangingman.asp#axzz1pguH7KSk





i had a big day from the short side today.  there were all sorts of problems going on in the market away from Apple.  its only a matter of time before they roll too.
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March 20, 2012, 08:37:00 PM
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Why hanging man and not http://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hammer.asp#axzz1pgvZTMyx
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March 20, 2012, 08:39:43 PM
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A hammer in an uptrend is called hanging man and is bearish, signalling often an impending downturn.

A hammer in a downtrend often signals an impending upturn.

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March 20, 2012, 08:53:27 PM
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A hammer in an uptrend is called hanging man and is bearish, signalling often an impending downturn.

A hammer in a downtrend often signals an impending upturn.

http://www.investor-verlag.de/boersenwissen/die-kerzen-5-und-6/


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So this candlestick pattern is used to indicate reversals, not continuation of trend?
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March 20, 2012, 08:55:42 PM
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tormorrow will tell the tale, if tomorrow is down then it confirms the hanging man.
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March 20, 2012, 09:16:53 PM
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A hammer in an uptrend is called hanging man and is bearish, signalling often an impending downturn.

A hammer in a downtrend often signals an impending upturn.

http://www.investor-verlag.de/boersenwissen/die-kerzen-5-und-6/


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So this candlestick pattern is used to indicate reversals, not continuation of trend?

Typically, yes. Of course there are always some exceptions possible, but probability is high for a turn.
This turn has to be confirmed by a down day or at least a dark candle tomorrow.

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March 20, 2012, 09:21:45 PM
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A hammer in an uptrend is called hanging man and is bearish, signalling often an impending downturn.

A hammer in a downtrend often signals an impending upturn.

http://www.investor-verlag.de/boersenwissen/die-kerzen-5-und-6/


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So this candlestick pattern is used to indicate reversals, not continuation of trend?

Typically, yes. Of course there are always some exceptions possible, but probability is high for a turn.
This turn has to be confirmed by a down day or at least a dark candle tomorrow.


Today I learned...  I hadnt been looking for hammers as reversals but as continuations in an uptrend... turns out its the opposite...

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March 20, 2012, 09:36:12 PM
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A hammer in an uptrend is called hanging man and is bearish, signalling often an impending downturn.

A hammer in a downtrend often signals an impending upturn.

http://www.investor-verlag.de/boersenwissen/die-kerzen-5-und-6/


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So this candlestick pattern is used to indicate reversals, not continuation of trend?

Typically, yes. Of course there are always some exceptions possible, but probability is high for a turn.
This turn has to be confirmed by a down day or at least a dark candle tomorrow.


Today I learned...  I hadnt been looking for hammers as reversals but as continuations in an uptrend... turns out its the opposite...

Thanks

In the same APPL chart above, there is a small hanging man on March 1, 2012 which led to a -5% decline over the following 3 days. The next turn in APPL will likely be bigger...

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March 20, 2012, 09:40:41 PM
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A hanging man isn't a guarantee of anything so yes, you need to look at tomorrow.

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March 20, 2012, 10:20:00 PM
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its important to view pm's in the context of the economy as a whole.  which is why you see me constantly talking about other markets besides pm's in my blog and in my posts here.  pm's are affected by these other market movements.  Bitcoin is even one of those markets that i believe has significance.

Agreed.

if we do, what do you think will happen to pm's and their stocks?  they will plunge below $500 i believe.  go back and review what happened to pm miners in 2008.  carnage.  the gold price dropped but it wasn't catastrophic.  this time i think it will be worse b/c we're at the end of a 12 yr bull mkt.  this wil be THE BIG ONE.

This isn't exactly 2008 - both comprehension and sentiment have transitioned from belief in the integrity of American finance to growing awareness of its fallibility. It's taken longer than I thought it would (damn lack of transparency making me underestimate liquidity magnitudes), but it's still happening at an accelerating rate.

Paper gold prices may plummet eventually, but physical gold cannot. Until that separation (which is a strong possibility, but not guaranteed) where the illusion truly has no bearing on reality, the undercurrents (real asset deflation, monetary inflation) continue to grind average investors up.



Quote from: KingWorldNews
“This is when you see things turn and the manipulators rip it to the upside.  There are buy stops on the upside that are attractive for them to target at this point.

...

In this type of environment, the only people placing bets for lower prices in gold are momentum traders.  In the real world there is physical gold being carted away in bullion trucks because of the dip.  More and more tonnage is disappearing.“
Source: KingWorldNews - London Trader - Sovereign Buyers to Raise Their Bids

... and again, I'm a cycle off, which is one reason why I usually stick with long-term accumulation Undecided

I've found that targets from Jim Sinclair have been very reliable. His $2111 call for this year may be a ceiling, but it could act as a pivot point initially. That is: it may be the center of a few hundred dollar-range to both the upside and downside, perhaps around $1800-2400, later acting as $1800 is now.

inflationists and pm bulls will say that the Fed will just print and won't let markets go down.  i ask; why did they let us have 2 devastating stock crashes in the last 12 yr and a housing implosion?

I can't claim to know their minds, but that isn't necessary. Just from observing behaviour, it's easy enough to see the reactionary nature that panicked when each of those events occurred. Martin Armstrong has suggested that the world's leaders are like scared children, unsure of what to do whenever these crises erupts, so they typically choose the most perceptually-expedient yet detrimental course of action (i.e. make it look like you're doing something).

Behaviour is a very difficult thing to change. So from that point of view, they didn't "let" those things happen any more than a person "let" himself get cancer. In this instance, the Fed has been playing with carcinogenic financial instruments and policies while telling everyone there's no danger, then feigning shock when symptoms developed.

why not? that might turn out to be the deal of your life.

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March 21, 2012, 04:43:14 PM
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A hammer in an uptrend is called hanging man and is bearish, signalling often an impending downturn.

A hammer in a downtrend often signals an impending upturn.

http://www.investor-verlag.de/boersenwissen/die-kerzen-5-und-6/


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So this candlestick pattern is used to indicate reversals, not continuation of trend?

Typically, yes. Of course there are always some exceptions possible, but probability is high for a turn.
This turn has to be confirmed by a down day or at least a dark candle tomorrow.


Maybe tomorrow, or next week, or maybe April...

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March 21, 2012, 05:13:22 PM
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tsk, tsk.
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