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April 10, 2012, 04:02:48 PM
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If it happens, I'll be the first to admit it and gladly pay up for a great call.

I just dont' see it happening Wink

so will i.  never hurts to have a little fun on the side.
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April 10, 2012, 04:27:39 PM
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why don't you guys just set up the bet on betsofbitco.in?

I might join in on the fun then  Cheesy

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April 10, 2012, 04:38:02 PM
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clinging desperately to the last vestige of your investment thesis.  won't last long i assure you...

Actually I wouldn't touch AAPL with a 10 foot pole..  But I don't think its done, it could easily go to 750+ or so short term, but I don't want to try to call the top..  I don't think it will crash when it tops out either, just bounce along like Microsoft did for 10 years after the dotcom crash.

I've never posted a thesis, or claimed to be an expert, or sell my advice.  Wink

I just think your plain wrong that the market is about to crash, that gold/silver are about to crash.

You've been claiming for a month now that they are about to crash, and you can pick corners.

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It might not be crashing, but even my tiny $200 position with 5% commission is sitting in the green as of today.

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April 10, 2012, 04:43:16 PM
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Down goes gold...

...Up goes gold...

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April 10, 2012, 04:54:57 PM
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Down goes gold...

...Up goes gold...

That's a pretty nice jump.

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April 10, 2012, 06:03:36 PM
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But silver is still down for the day.   Huh



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April 10, 2012, 06:49:57 PM
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Stocks are down; gold and silver are steady. One day does not make a trend, and the typical CoT reporting games may still have occurred.

Anyway, the dynamic is unfolding exactly as FOFOA, Mike Maloney, et al. have described. Bitcoin is a great protector, but it's still foolish to discount physical precious metals.

Fixed. Two days in a row now. Nothing more need be said.

I'm now convinced the (failed so far) assault on precious metals was forecasted by Bitcoin movement over the weekend.

But silver is still down for the day.   Huh

For multiple reasons, silver is more volatile. Gold being the bigger sibling, the smaller slingshots around - first accelerating and exceeding, then slowing to fall faster. It'll catch up.

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This is what we’ve been arguing for a long time.  As long as you keep your gold within the banking system, you do not know who the gold belongs to.  The gold could be encumbered.  It could belong to a central bank.  It could be double-counted by the bank.  This is why the smart money is taking their gold outside of the banking system and securing it in separate vaults.  We are also seeing large money flows into physical gold right now."
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April 10, 2012, 07:21:53 PM
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And silver is influenced more strongly from manipulators, if they are about.

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April 10, 2012, 07:38:53 PM
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And silver is influenced more strongly from manipulators, if they are about.

Speaking of silver - if true, there are only two words appropriate: Oh, sh...

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April 10, 2012, 11:21:14 PM
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Speaking of silver - if true, there are only two words appropriate: Oh, sh...

USAGOLD: RT @zerohedge: JPM provides notice of intent to rehypothecate S from Spain. Promises to leave pain for the foreseeable future

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Two words: why bother?  JPM will do whatever it's going to do, does it really need any pretence while breaking that oh-so-broken law?

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Even though it has been long predicted by the gold bugs, actual seeing the decoupling of stocks and metals is still hard to believe.

One day doesn't make a trend, maybe it's yet another trap? maybe some rich guy just realized what a fool Dennis Gartman really is and bought back his gold? maybe the plunge protection team was busy elsewhere today and will come back tomorrow?  who knows, we'll see.

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April 11, 2012, 12:14:15 AM
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Two words: why bother?  JPM will do whatever it's going to do, does it really need any pretence while breaking that oh-so-broken law?

Exactly. Major players don't broadcast their moves...

One day doesn't make a trend, maybe it's yet another trap? maybe some rich guy just realized what a fool Dennis Gartman really is and bought back his gold? maybe the plunge protection team was busy elsewhere today and will come back tomorrow?  who knows, we'll see.

Again, exactly. If you broadcast your move, it's like talking a position. What would happen if a nation's silver were stolen? Silver buying takes off.

With unlimited short ammunition, the price can still be managed. Once buying tires itself out after being capped for a while, the real pressure hits. The hope there is that additional longs will decide to dump their holdings in addition to the fresh ones as the price dips again. It's the same thing that's happened at Bitcoinica this month so far.

I suspect today's spike was short covering designed to free up some ammo. If so, $1630 probably hasn't been tested for the last time.
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April 11, 2012, 03:54:50 PM
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Down go gold and silver.  Apple's weakening. Wink
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April 11, 2012, 04:30:21 PM
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Yeaaaah~~~ cypherdoc is right~~~ gold down 30 cents ~~~ hurry, open the champagne and celebrate!


Seriously, I feel this thread is getting old and we should find something more interesting to talk about ~~~ but he has the right to troll his own thread right?
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April 11, 2012, 04:52:43 PM
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Wink.

AAPL is too big to fail!!

The only problem with AAPL products, is that there is a finite number of people on the planet Wink

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April 11, 2012, 05:21:03 PM
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Wink.

AAPL is too big to fail!!

The only problem with AAPL products, is that there is a finite number of people on the planet Wink



Who, if they're fulling on board with the Apple craze, will feel compelled to upgrade to the newest Apple product every year to every other year.
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April 11, 2012, 05:21:23 PM
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Wink.

AAPL is too big to fail!!



The Apple stock will fail = fall big time in the next months, and it will drag the entire market down big time

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April 11, 2012, 06:13:46 PM
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April 11, 2012, 06:45:57 PM
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oh noes! Cheesy

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April 11, 2012, 09:29:45 PM
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oh noes! Cheesy

Interesting divergence: AAPL down on a day that SPY is up. Weren't some analysts calling for $1,000?  Roll Eyes

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April 11, 2012, 10:30:07 PM
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Stocks are down steady; USD steady below 80; gold and silver are steady. One day does not make a trend, and the typical CoT reporting games may still have occurred.

Anyway, the dynamic is unfolding exactly as Jim Sinclair, FOFOA, Mike Maloney, et al. have described. Bitcoin is a great protector, but it's still foolish to discount physical precious metals.

Fixed again. Three days now. Added the dollar, which is down from last week and is still unable to make headway despite an initial exodus from equities - even bonds are struggling. It looks like that flow been going into... gold (in particular - physical). Speaking of which, gold has been following Bitcoin's weekend path.

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