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I have just few chosen sites for sports betting and directbet is at top of them as more than 60% of my bets I place there always.It all about ease of use with minimum effort and good odds too.I will say '' A '' is my rating as I didn't face any problem so far.I am fully satisfied with them till this moment.
One gambler ( hungerstyle ) won a bet $ 16,500 but there are some issues with the win I do not know for sure what the problem I only hear rumors Double spend and hacker according to the rules on the site Directbet if indications violate the rules will be seized funds. This case has not been resolved so OP give ratings D to Directbet you can read it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1481406.msg14931306#msg14931306the case almost done resolved as hungerstyle accept directbet offer/resolution. hungerstyle sent already a passport and other documents required by directbet yesterday. and let's see if this case solved , directbet send back the bitcoin to hungerstyle , will the rating of directbet go back to a good one? The rating will definitely increase if hungerstyle is paid in full. DirectBet demanding to see personal information when they claim to be anonymous does affect their grade. As robinH pointed out, DirectBet's odds hurt their rating.
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June 25, 2016, 05:44:39 AM |
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I have just few chosen sites for sports betting and directbet is at top of them as more than 60% of my bets I place there always.It all about ease of use with minimum effort and good odds too.I will say '' A '' is my rating as I didn't face any problem so far.I am fully satisfied with them till this moment.
One gambler ( hungerstyle ) won a bet $ 16,500 but there are some issues with the win I do not know for sure what the problem I only hear rumors Double spend and hacker according to the rules on the site Directbet if indications violate the rules will be seized funds. This case has not been resolved so OP give ratings D to Directbet you can read it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1481406.msg14931306#msg14931306the case almost done resolved as hungerstyle accept directbet offer/resolution. hungerstyle sent already a passport and other documents required by directbet yesterday. and let's see if this case solved , directbet send back the bitcoin to hungerstyle , will the rating of directbet go back to a good one? The rating will definitely increase if hungerstyle is paid in full. DirectBet demanding to see personal information when they claim to be anonymous does affect their grade. As robinH pointed out, DirectBet's odds hurt their rating. They did. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1481406.msg15350918#msg15350918
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June 25, 2016, 07:33:46 AM |
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I have just few chosen sites for sports betting and directbet is at top of them as more than 60% of my bets I place there always.It all about ease of use with minimum effort and good odds too.I will say '' A '' is my rating as I didn't face any problem so far.I am fully satisfied with them till this moment.
One gambler ( hungerstyle ) won a bet $ 16,500 but there are some issues with the win I do not know for sure what the problem I only hear rumors Double spend and hacker according to the rules on the site Directbet if indications violate the rules will be seized funds. This case has not been resolved so OP give ratings D to Directbet you can read it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1481406.msg14931306#msg14931306the case almost done resolved as hungerstyle accept directbet offer/resolution. hungerstyle sent already a passport and other documents required by directbet yesterday. and let's see if this case solved , directbet send back the bitcoin to hungerstyle , will the rating of directbet go back to a good one? The rating will definitely increase if hungerstyle is paid in full. DirectBet demanding to see personal information when they claim to be anonymous does affect their grade. As robinH pointed out, DirectBet's odds hurt their rating. Hey peepsplace, directbet.eu refunded hungerstyle + winnings. It is only fair to revise their ratings.
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June 26, 2016, 10:21:11 PM |
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I have just few chosen sites for sports betting and directbet is at top of them as more than 60% of my bets I place there always.It all about ease of use with minimum effort and good odds too.I will say '' A '' is my rating as I didn't face any problem so far.I am fully satisfied with them till this moment.
One gambler ( hungerstyle ) won a bet $ 16,500 but there are some issues with the win I do not know for sure what the problem I only hear rumors Double spend and hacker according to the rules on the site Directbet if indications violate the rules will be seized funds. This case has not been resolved so OP give ratings D to Directbet you can read it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1481406.msg14931306#msg14931306the case almost done resolved as hungerstyle accept directbet offer/resolution. hungerstyle sent already a passport and other documents required by directbet yesterday. and let's see if this case solved , directbet send back the bitcoin to hungerstyle , will the rating of directbet go back to a good one? The rating will definitely increase if hungerstyle is paid in full. DirectBet demanding to see personal information when they claim to be anonymous does affect their grade. As robinH pointed out, DirectBet's odds hurt their rating. Hey peepsplace, directbet.eu refunded hungerstyle + winnings. It is only fair to revise their ratings. Will do. hungerstyle - please confirm that you were paid. DirectBet - was hungerstyle required to present you with any personal documentation?
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June 28, 2016, 05:09:56 PM |
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DirectBet upgraded from "D" to "C+" DirectBet uses the "back" odds from Betfair adding more take out. There is a minimum amount needed at Betfair for DirectBet to put up a line. Many times there aren't lines up on one side or both since lines are dependent upon lines at an exchange. The lines at DirectBet aren't competitive in most markets. DirectBet claimed that player hungerstyle maliciously attempted to double spend 36 BTC. DirectBet confiscated the 36 BTC plus the winnings from the wager. After requiring hungerstyle to present KYC information, DirectBet paid hungerstyle his deposit plus winnings. One thing that is worrisome is that another player had his deposit and winnings confiscated. This player has not been paid. DirectBet contends that they still have the right to confiscate funds for attempted double spends. The attempted double spends are not always the fault of the player, it can be the wallet. DirectBet Even though we can confiscate his bet per our terms and conditions, we are willing to refund it as a goodwill gesture and in an effort to resolve this matter but unfortunately so far he did not cooperate.
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June 30, 2016, 04:47:10 PM |
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On Sportsbet.io, the payouts are really fast. I usually never have to wait more than a couple of minutes.
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July 03, 2016, 04:14:22 PM |
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You ratings for directbet.eu is unfair. You have completely disregarded their positives and focused solely on a few negatives.They should be rated higher. @ least higher than the likes of Jetwin. Jetwin is not based in the UK as claimed, their no deposit promo is sexist and fake. They do everything in their power to block payments, if and when you complete their high rollover requirements. They also demand personal information. But you rated them B+ ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) directbet.eu made a mistake with hungerstyle which was resolved. And don't forget they had probable cause, but listened to the community. That should count for something. Yes their lines could be better. I have long suspected they lay off their liabilies on an exchange, but doing so could be difficult, considering how unstable bitcoin price is. You don't want to be seen as favouring some books over others. .
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July 03, 2016, 04:32:02 PM |
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You ratings for directbet.eu is unfair. You have completely disregarded their positives and focused solely on a few negatives.They should be rated higher. @ least higher than the likes of Jetwin. Jetwin is not based in the UK as claimed, their no deposit promo is sexist and fake. They do everything in their power to block payments, if and when you complete their high rollover requirements. They also demand personal information. But you rated them B+ ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) directbet.eu made a mistake with hungerstyle which was resolved. And don't forget they had probable cause, but listened to the community. That should count for something. Yes their lines could be better. I have long suspected they lay off their liabilies on an exchange, but doing so could be difficult, considering how unstable bitcoin price is. You don't want to be seen as favouring some books over others. . i agree with the whole of your opinions above , directbet deserve more than just C+ rating. if you check jetwin.ps thread you will see there many case of no deposit bonus can not withdrawn. it looks the jetwin no deposit bonus are fake and i think it is need your attention to consider downgrading them. vote directbet to receive B rating at least.
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July 03, 2016, 06:07:27 PM |
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I know I said I wouldn't post in this thread anymore but I want to clarify the hungarstyles situation. After requiring hungerstyle to present KYC information, DirectBet paid hungerstyle his deposit plus winnings. Directbet refunded the wager but did not payout the winnings from the BTC36 bet. There was a smaller BTC2 wager that was paid, I'm not aware of the exact details behind that one though. DirectBet requested KYC information, but I think it's fair to assume they ultimately paid Hungarstyle out of respect for the publics opinion without receiving any valid information. ( DirectBet claimed the documents submitted were altered. Also, I think it's safe to assume many users, including myself, would submit fraudulent personal information if they were in hungarstyles situation ) While many details of the situation make DirectBet worthy of serious criticism, they should be praised for ultimately conceding to the overall view of the general public encouraging other sites to do the same in the future. I think ultimately the best way to avoid these situations in the future is to convince players and sites to come up with a dispute resolution policy that involves a unbiased third party.
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You guys make some great points on Jetwin along with players being limited fast. What do you feel are the advantages of DirectBet over other books? My personal feeling is that there is little reason to play at DitectBet. The odds make it impossible to win long term with a fair amount of action.
Instant payouts is no longer an advantage now that other books are paying out so fast. More bets get rejected at DirectBet than other books because of the extra step required to place a bet.
Anyone else have opinions on Jetwin and DirectBet?
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July 03, 2016, 06:12:32 PM |
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I know I said I wouldn't post in this thread anymore but I want to clarify the hungarstyles situation. After requiring hungerstyle to present KYC information, DirectBet paid hungerstyle his deposit plus winnings. Directbet refunded the wager but did not payout the winnings from the BTC36 bet. There was a smaller BTC2 wager that was paid, I'm not aware of the exact details behind that one though. DirectBet requested KYC information, but I think it's fair to assume they ultimately paid Hungarstyle out of respect for the publics opinion without receiving any valid information. ( DirectBet claimed the documents submitted were altered. Also, I think it's safe to assume many users, including myself, would submit fraudulent personal information if they were in hungarstyles situation ) While many details of the situation make DirectBet worthy of serious criticism, they should be praised for ultimately conceding to the overall view of the general public encouraging other sites to do the same in the future. I think ultimately the best way to avoid these situations in the future is to convince players and sites to come up with a dispute resolution policy that involves a unbiased third party. This is a good idea. Books implementing arbitration should be rated higher.
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July 03, 2016, 06:32:28 PM |
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You guys make some great points on Jetwin along with players being limited fast. What do you feel are the advantages of DirectBet over other books? My personal feeling is that there is no reason to play at DitectBet. The odds make it impossible to win long term with a fair amount of action.
Instant payouts is no longer an advantage now that other books are paying out so fast. More bets get rejected at DirectBet than other books because of the extra step required to place a bet.
Are there any other opinions on Jetwin and DirectBet?
The biggest advantage of Directbet imo, is the fact that it pays out for bets instantly. There is always a risk on other books, that they run away with funds deposited on user accounts, which at a given time can easily be over 100 BTC. The fact that Directbet doesn't require you to create account and deposit, plus the live betting feature which isn't available on every other sites definitely makes it better than a B.
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July 03, 2016, 09:58:22 PM |
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You guys make some great points on Jetwin along with players being limited fast. What do you feel are the advantages of DirectBet over other books? My personal feeling is that there is little reason to play at DitectBet. The odds make it impossible to win long term with a fair amount of action.
Instant payouts is no longer an advantage now that other books are paying out so fast. More bets get rejected at DirectBet than other books because of the extra step required to place a bet.
Anyone else have opinions on Jetwin and DirectBet?
I've stated previously during the hungerstyle incident that I don't believe Directbet's intent is to falsely claim doublespend/hacking in order to confiscate funds. And as everyone's stated, they eventually went with the community opinion and were interested in preserving their good reputation (as opposed to a book such as BetcoinSports which clearly enjoys f*cking with people and has to pay people for positive posts). I've never applied for the Jetwin bonus, so my account there has always been anonymous. They're getting a lot of negative criticism over their handling and payout of the bonuses. I can't comment on that. But it's a shame if they're losing customers and getting a bad reputation over their handling of a $35 bonus. I've found many positives there: 1) Payouts have been instantaneous. It seems that as soon as I click on the final payout link, the funds are in my account. Perhaps it actually takes a few seconds. Faster than any other book (other than Directbet of course which pays without a request being necessary). 2) I've contacted them re: limits/odds/adding sports or additional type of bets on sports, and found them to be wonderfully responsive in all of these areas. YMMV on this, but my experience has been excellent as far as their being willing to make some improvements. 3) In areas other than those cited in #2, I've also found the cs to be very good to excellent. [I wish they had 24/7 live chat, but unfortunately most books don't have this including some top fiat books. I wish they had email support 24/7, but it feels as if there's no email support during certain hours (as is the case with many other books). There is always a response within 24 hours.]
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I'm biased negatively towards DirectBet because of multiple bad experiences. Their customer service (responses) have been professional, thought out, and overall good. However, I feel cheated and in a "lose lose" situation when I bet on their book. If I bet 50 ETH and I send an e-mail about the 50 ETH staying in their wallet for 4 hours (requiring manual intervention on their end) and not confirming my bet, all I ask is for a TIMELY response back. I think 4 hours to respond is not reasonable. Especially when I'm over 2500 ETH put in play in July alone. Oh, and then there's the fact that my 3:1 parlay won and didn't get paid out. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I've used Nitrogen and I've had great experiences so far. The only reason I'm using DirectBet is because of ETH, but I'm sure that will change soon.
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July 05, 2016, 07:08:27 PM |
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I'm biased negatively towards DirectBet because of multiple bad experiences. Their customer service (responses) have been professional, thought out, and overall good. However, I feel cheated and in a "lose lose" situation when I bet on their book. If I bet 50 ETH and I send an e-mail about the 50 ETH staying in their wallet for 4 hours (requiring manual intervention on their end) and not confirming my bet, all I ask is for a TIMELY response back. I think 4 hours to respond is not reasonable. Especially when I'm over 2500 ETH put in play in July alone. Oh, and then there's the fact that my 3:1 parlay won and didn't get paid out. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I've used Nitrogen and I've had great experiences so far. The only reason I'm using DirectBet is because of ETH, but I'm sure that will change soon. Any opinions on this case? KoSoVar made a 50 ETH 3 team parlay bet with DirectBet. After two games won, DB canceled the wager. KoSoVar sent an email 1 hour prior to the first game. DB didn't reply until 4 hours later. copy of wager https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0x308f5c30f06f8c0860f89980c7fbbc8ac6b27ea6
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July 05, 2016, 07:23:03 PM |
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July 05, 2016, 08:11:50 PM |
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It sucks, but at least both confirmed bets won and you received your winnings. If they lost, you would be glad the wallet messed up and saved you 50 ETH.The bet never confirmed, so a payout can't be made.
This happens a lot of times in other forms, books suspending play, just as you are about to place bets. Or in some cases, the entire event disappears completely, only to reappear later at different odds (I am looking @ you directbet.eu). Sometimes the result goes for you, other times against.
However, directbet.eu should ensure things like this don't happen. And the free bet they offered as compensation could be better.
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July 05, 2016, 08:19:26 PM |
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I don't think that a bet can ever be held in limbo. It should be accepted or rejected prior to the start of the game. All other books do this.
If the bet had lost, there's no guarantee that the bet would have been refunded.
The same problem happened many times in the past with DirectBet using bitcoins. Are there any cases where the bet was refunded in a situation where the bet lost?
The first two legs of a 3 team parlay won prior to the bet being rejected.
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