[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[SuchBurst]

new layout is online: http://burstcoin.biz

many new features on my todo list but next step is adding timezone and currency options on burstcoin.biz.

feel free to contact me if you have a features request

[RealBitcoin]

sorry for slightly off topic, but now I am curious:

NXT has many copycats

Which ones are those? I know NXT, HZ and BURST. What are the others? Thanks a lot!

Yep those, and NEM (XEM)
http://nem.io/

And tons of more crappyer low volume altcoins that were based on NXT which are 100% copycats.

Now obviously NEM and BURST are a lot more modified and with many more features, but still based on the NXT source code.

So Burst is a "copycat" after all...? I would be much more inclined to call it a "fork" which distances from NXT day-by-day. That's the impression I get from the existing four forks.

Not separating copycats from real innovative forks, can only have negative effect: "all those worthless copycats", and positive effect on NXT.

Words can be powerful.

Ok my wording sucks, but still BURST was inspired by NXT, no doubt about that.

In fact NXT has currency market feature while BURST has not, but BURST has escrow and smart contracts which NXT has not.

So it has different features. + The fact of HDD mining, now that is real innovation, so congrats BURST!

[yeponlyone]

sorry for slightly off topic, but now I am curious:

NXT has many copycats

Which ones are those? I know NXT, HZ and BURST. What are the others? Thanks a lot!

Yep those, and NEM (XEM)
http://nem.io/

And tons of more crappyer low volume altcoins that were based on NXT which are 100% copycats.

Now obviously NEM and BURST are a lot more modified and with many more features, but still based on the NXT source code.

So Burst is a "copycat" after all...? I would be much more inclined to call it a "fork" which distances from NXT day-by-day. That's the impression I get from the existing four forks.

Not separating copycats from real innovative forks, can only have negative effect: "all those worthless copycats", and positive effect on NXT.

Words can be powerful.

Ok my wording sucks, but still BURST was inspired by NXT, no doubt about that.

In fact NXT has currency market feature while BURST has not, but BURST has escrow and smart contracts which NXT has not.

So it has different features. + The fact of HDD mining, now that is real innovation, so congrats BURST!

Yeah, that's the thing. Of course Burst and those other coins have a lot to thank NXT for, but the development now is not to copy NXT, the forks try to do different things than NXT.

Now NXT is a lot more powerful with more devs, so certain features developed today will end up in the forks.

I think it is a sound system. If you look at http://www.burstcoin.info, Burst pays tribute to NXT.

[callmejack]

I ran through all functions of BURST, but could not figure out how to get the value of SCOOP of the current block.

Can anybody enlighten me, please!

the wallet only supplies the gensig for the last mined block and only scoops for already mined blocks.
the scoop for the current block has to be calculated from the gensig and height.
the simplest way is to use the code the miner calculates the scoop with.

you need the previous gensig and height. then you apply this code to it (taken from the mdcct miner.c file https://github.com/Mirkic7/mdcct/blob/master/mine.c):

      // Get scoop:
      char scoopgen[40];
      memmove(scoopgen, signature, 32);

      char *mov = (char*)&height;

      scoopgen[32] = mov[7]; scoopgen[33] = mov[6]; scoopgen[34] = mov[5]; scoopgen[35] = mov[4]; scoopgen[36] = mov[3]; scoopgen[37] = mov[2]; scoopgen[38] = mov[1]; scoopgen[39] = mov[0];

      shabal_context x;
      shabal_init(&x, 256);
      shabal(&x, scoopgen, 40);
      char xcache[32];
      shabal_close(&x, 0, 0, xcache);
      
      scoop = (((unsigned char)xcache[31]) + 256 * (unsigned char)xcache[30]) % HASH_CAP;

depending on what you want to do with the actual scoop you may simply modify the miner to print the scoop number like this:
scoop: 3055 73037 MB read/292148 GB total/deadline 145651s (145645s left)

[callmejack]

sorry for slightly off topic, but now I am curious:

NXT has many copycats

Which ones are those? I know NXT, HZ and BURST. What are the others? Thanks a lot!

Yep those, and NEM (XEM)
http://nem.io/

And tons of more crappyer low volume altcoins that were based on NXT which are 100% copycats.

Now obviously NEM and BURST are a lot more modified and with many more features, but still based on the NXT source code.

So Burst is a "copycat" after all...? I would be much more inclined to call it a "fork" which distances from NXT day-by-day. That's the impression I get from the existing four forks.

Not separating copycats from real innovative forks, can only have negative effect: "all those worthless copycats", and positive effect on NXT.

Words can be powerful.

Ok my wording sucks, but still BURST was inspired by NXT, no doubt about that.

In fact NXT has currency market feature while BURST has not, but BURST has escrow and smart contracts which NXT has not.

So it has different features. + The fact of HDD mining, now that is real innovation, so congrats BURST!

Yeah, that's the thing. Of course Burst and those other coins have a lot to thank NXT for, but the development now is not to copy NXT, the forks try to do different things than NXT.

Now NXT is a lot more powerful with more devs, so certain features developed today will end up in the forks.

I think it is a sound system. If you look at http://www.burstcoin.info, Burst pays tribute to NXT.

we should start to port the burst protocol to c and do some adjustments to the current limitations (eg. extend the 255tx in a block), add checkpoints and rethink the basetarget calculation.
also some features like storing binary information as service paid in burst for would be great (a few kb stored in the blockchain for a limited time).
even if this increases the blockchain size with a couple of gb it may be worth it.
if checkpoints are combined with filestorage we may at every diff adjustment either keep the binary blops if it is payed for again or exclude it from the checkpoint which makes the data die over time since they wont get synchronized to fresh wallets.
such possibilities are the basic requirements for decentralized forums and exchanges in hopefully near future.

[yeponlyone]

We had a discussion about which pool has the most miners and/or capacity, but the conclusion were more or less that it depends on how and what you counts.

If I reformulate it a bit: Which pool benefits larger miners (say +25TB) and which pool benefits the more recreational smaller miners?

This question should at least be possible to answer, as I read early in the thread that one of Uray's pools were tweaked to benefit larger capacity miner ("all most as solo mining").

Have our pool ops tweaked their code or a setup which benefit smaller or bigger miners?

[Irontiga]

We had a discussion about which pool has the most miners and/or capacity, but the conclusion were more or less that it depends on how and what you counts.

If I reformulate it a bit: Which pool benefits larger miners (say +25TB) and which pool benefits the more recreational smaller miners?

This question should at least be possible to answer, as I read early in the thread that one of Uray's pools were tweaked to benefit larger capacity miner ("all most as solo mining").

Have our pool ops tweaked their code or a setup which benefit smaller or bigger miners?

Burst.ninja benefits neither. It pays out some based on current round share, and some based on historic round share. This has come from our miners and what they wanted, and so we believe our pool is the fairest pool out there! Try it yourself, and see It's also super fast ;P

[bobafett]

with my pool pool.burstcoin.de all miners until 50TB will be better paid, because my algo for counting the average is extrem fair for small miners, especially in the long run for over one week.

for lage miners 50-100tb i had everytime the best results with dev2 pool.

but if you got more than 100tb it is always the best to solo mine.

[bittick]

with my pool pool.burstcoin.de all miners until 50TB will be better paid, because my algo for counting the average is extrem fair for small miners, especially in the long run for over one week.

for lage miners 50-100tb i had everytime the best results with dev2 pool.

but if you got more than 100tb it is always the best to solo mine.

I am mining on your pool for quite some time now with just a measly 4tb or so.
Happy so far, but still if i check the explorer, I see that i would have gotten twice as much Burst had I solo mined...

could you shed some light on this?
http://burstcoin.biz/address/13637156792000962383
I had mined 4 blocks (22k burst) but got paid 13k total

Im still wrapping  my head around HDD mining, so please be patient

[bittick]

Also, where can I find the Whitepaper?

[timk225]

You people still think this crapcoin still has a chance?  Wow, you're really stupid.  How many TB of disk space is needed now to even have a chance at mining a decent number of coins?

[bittick]

You people still think this crapcoin still has a chance?  Wow, you're really stupid.  How many TB of disk space is needed now to even have a chance at mining a decent number of coins?

You, Sir, are very narrow minded if you think this way.
Your reputation also does not make any of your comments liable.

[yeponlyone]

Thanks for answers, irontiga and bobafett.  I have also had good results with Dev2 but not the last days.

[FakeAccount]

Also, where can I find the Whitepaper?

it doesn't exist yet unfortunately.  if we do get one, it will help with the long term prospect and greater adoption

[BChydro]

Has anyone had any disk failures yet? Been mining Burst on 6 HDDs for almost a year now without any issues. Guess this coin isn't too bad for HDDs.

[crowetic]

Has anyone had any disk failures yet? Been mining Burst on 6 HDDs for almost a year now without any issues. Guess this coin isn't too bad for HDDs.

Nope, not a single drive failure, unless you count the one that my baby son decided would be fun to pull on the floor, (facepalm). But you can hardly blame BURST for that. heh.

[crowetic]

Thanks for answers, irontiga and bobafett.  I have also had good results with Dev2 but not the last days.

To add a lil bit to this, burst.ninja pool pays a large bonus to the block finder, then if the pool finds the block, and you have a low share that is close to the block finder, you also get a large bonus. So larger miners should benefit from this, as well as larger miners are generally higher up on the historic share pie as well, so they get a more steady larger payout.

[yeponlyone]

Has anyone had any disk failures yet? Been mining Burst on 6 HDDs for almost a year now without any issues. Guess this coin isn't too bad for HDDs.

Nope, not a single drive failure, unless you count the one that my baby son decided would be fun to pull on the floor, (facepalm). But you can hardly blame BURST for that. heh.

I had one this week actually, a 4TB Seagate. It was completely dead, not making as noise. Got it replaced today, so I'm plotting again.

[yeponlyone]

Thanks for answers, irontiga and bobafett.  I have also had good results with Dev2 but not the last days.

To add a lil bit to this, burst.ninja pool pays a large bonus to the block finder, then if the pool finds the block, and you have a low share that is close to the block finder, you also get a large bonus. So larger miners should benefit from this, as well as larger miners are generally higher up on the historic share pie as well, so they get a more steady larger payout.

Hmm, very interesting I had a feeling the pools were configured differently. Does every share counts as with Dev2 or is it only the best one?

[yeponlyone]

Does anyone know what's up with Qora today? Up almost 100% at poloniex with nice volume too.

Should have bought some at the time of ACCTs...