[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[haitch]

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ah sorry, now i understand.

interests are payed to holders on the payment day. there is no daily accurate calculation. same as if you sell your stocks on day before the pay out the dividents. then you will also get no dividents. In the other way, if you buy one day before the payment day, you get the full interests for one month.

Feels like very relevant information to share. Or have you shared it with some and not all...? Then the risk is that someone holds just for two days, then dumping into the unknowingly buyers. Also, what reasons are there to be a holder a whole months?

Transparency is important.

ByteEnt is exactly the same. Just hold some assets on the payment day, other days you do not need them. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg10682579#msg10682579

Elmit, you ...., if you hold an asset on payout day, you get paid. If you sold them the day before, you get nothing. That's how assets, and stocks, work. WTF is with implying ByteEnt is doing something shady? You want corrupt - look at the Petabyte asset thats funded by about 12TB of storage ... rename it the 12TB asset and refund the people that bought into your BS.

[Elmit]

why didn't you pay for my holdings in august? i've chashed out on the 28.08.15, so you worked with my BIRST for 90,32% of the month. where is my pay of 90,32% from the intrest?

I guess, that it is the IronTiga asset script error, which of course does not exist ;-)

i dont think this is a feature of the script..... all i know is, that the script looks who has atm assets and how much and divides the total amount you typ in payout to the holders depending on the assets they have and sent the coins.

That's why the script does not work for me. My asset is MINING, so every day mining occurs. The script only looks on the payment days the balance and pays according to the holders at that day, not what they have achieved the days before.

Besides the script version I got, had a offset of days. To get accumulated over a month, you had to run the script every day, accumulate it to the payment day and use the offset to correct the date. I choose the easier route, I wrote the accounting myself. Every months I add some features to it. I still start it on the first days of the month, and it calculates the payments of the previous month in UTC time. It prepares the text for the payout, but it does not payout automatically yet. I made a summery table to review and pay out with another start, if the table convinces me.

My next step is to make sure, that I do not pay them twice, just because I ran the script a second time.

As I recall from your post some pages back, you manually calculate the payout owed, and demanded a member paying you back after you over paid him. Funny how other people have no issues using 'tiga's script, but the favorite home of bot miners, who hides all his pool details, just can't make it work ..... Maybe you should shutdown your site until you figure out how this internet thing works ...

Headache, headache,

Twisting the words was always your domain.

Either learn to read or just don't reply.

Talking always from botminers, are not YOU the botminer? Do you actually have hard disks?

[Elmit]

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ah sorry, now i understand.

interests are payed to holders on the payment day. there is no daily accurate calculation. same as if you sell your stocks on day before the pay out the dividents. then you will also get no dividents. In the other way, if you buy one day before the payment day, you get the full interests for one month.

Feels like very relevant information to share. Or have you shared it with some and not all...? Then the risk is that someone holds just for two days, then dumping into the unknowingly buyers. Also, what reasons are there to be a holder a whole months?

Transparency is important.

ByteEnt is exactly the same. Just hold some assets on the payment day, other days you do not need them. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg10682579#msg10682579

Elmit, you ...., if you hold an asset on payout day, you get paid. If you sold them the day before, you get nothing. That's how assets, and stocks, work. WTF is with implying ByteEnt is doing something shady? You want corrupt - look at the Petabyte asset thats funded by about 12TB of storage ... rename it the 12TB asset and refund the people that bought into your BS.

Hi troll,

Now you understand the difference! Now you understand why the crap Tiga script does not work for me.
My asset holders get paid for EACH SINGLE DAY they have mined with us.

I think it is not right what ByteEnt does, but you can think what you want. According to your wording, I call it BS.
What does BANK mean for you?
If you put money on your bank account, will you only get paid interest for the money if you have it on the payment day on it?
Cool, try this: Ask banks to pay you the interest on different days, then you just move the money from bank to bank and wow, you get multiple times paid the interest?

PetaByte is a good asset, but please stay away from it. We do not want you here.

I asked how to calculate the network size, but did not get an answer. Maybe you don't know it, maybe you just use the online calculator, ...

[haitch]

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ah sorry, now i understand.

interests are payed to holders on the payment day. there is no daily accurate calculation. same as if you sell your stocks on day before the pay out the dividents. then you will also get no dividents. In the other way, if you buy one day before the payment day, you get the full interests for one month.

Feels like very relevant information to share. Or have you shared it with some and not all...? Then the risk is that someone holds just for two days, then dumping into the unknowingly buyers. Also, what reasons are there to be a holder a whole months?

Transparency is important.

ByteEnt is exactly the same. Just hold some assets on the payment day, other days you do not need them. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg10682579#msg10682579

Elmit, you ...., if you hold an asset on payout day, you get paid. If you sold them the day before, you get nothing. That's how assets, and stocks, work. WTF is with implying ByteEnt is doing something shady? You want corrupt - look at the Petabyte asset thats funded by about 12TB of storage ... rename it the 12TB asset and refund the people that bought into your BS.

Hi troll,

Now you understand the difference! Now you understand why the crap Tiga script does not work for me.
My asset holders get paid for EACH SINGLE DAY they have mined with us.

I think it is not right what ByteEnt does, but you can think what you want. According to your wording, I call it BS.
What does BANK mean for you?
If you put money on your bank account, will you only get paid interest for the money if you have it on the payment day on it?
Cool, try this: Ask banks to pay you the interest on different days, then you just move the money from bank to bank and wow, you get multiple times paid the interest?

PetaByte is a good asset, but please stay away from it. We do not want you here.

I asked how to calculate the network size, but did not get an answer. Maybe you don't know it, maybe you just use the online calculator, ...

Petabyte should be renamed 12 terabyte, to better reflect what it's backed by ...

Assets are not like a deposit account - like any stock, you get paid out for the amount you hold on the day they payout.

So you calculate everyone interest on the amount of 12Terabyte they hold every single day, then pay it out monthly? But sometimes pay people who don't own any 12Terabyte, have to assume that payout came out of someone elses interest. So in reality, you pay 12 terabyte holders a random gustimate of how much they kinda might of earned. Got it.

Thanks for the clarification.

[notabeliever]

I was mining with 2.3TB of plots for a week now. Today the pool stats show I have only .7 TB. Do the plot files get old.

Should I delete them then and create new fresh ones?

[Elmit]

Petabyte should be renamed 12 terabyte, to better reflect what it's backed by ...

Assets are not like a deposit account - like any stock, you get paid out for the amount you hold on the day they payout.

So you calculate everyone interest on the amount of 12Terabyte they hold every single day, then pay it out monthly? But sometimes pay people who don't own any 12Terabyte, have to assume that payout came out of someone elses interest. So in reality, you pay 12 terabyte holders a random gustimate of how much they kinda might of earned. Got it.

Thanks for the clarification.

Why should it be renamed to 12 Terabyte? It is an asset of 1024 Terabyte, didn't you read the description? Ahh, here we go, that is your weak point? You cannot read! ;-)

We pay out the mining result of the day to the asset holders of the day. Simple, right? Too simple to understand, right? There is no INTEREST, there is MINING RESULT.

At the beginning I calculated it by hand, and prompt I paid IronTiga twice. If you are a programmer, you will certainly make a check by hand or other means, wouldn't you? I know, IronTiga needs money, ...

Whats with the network calculation? Since you quote 12 Terabyte, somewhere you must have got that, or just dreamed of numbers? (more likely anyway)

BTW, how is it going with the Singapore water department?

What does Haitch GVDF and Haitch ACGB mean?
For me it sounds like the group of hacked computers / botnet you use for.

Since you always pick on my, choose another one:

Pool Statistics
Current time: 2015-09-02 11:48:21 UTC
Block: 138,366
Difficulty: 10,457

BURST.MiningHere.com
Pool balance: 67,773
Registered Miners: 280

burst.ninja
Pool balance: 15,171
Registered Miners: 399

burst.poolto.be
Pool balance: 4,127
Registered Miners: 254

cryptomining.farm
Pool balance: 205,662
Registered Miners: 1,863

DevPool v2
Pool balance: 584,788
Registered Miners: 551

mining.tompool.org
Pool balance: 1,586
Registered Miners: 56

pool.blago
Pool balance: 571
Registered Miners: 113

pool.burstcoin.de
Pool balance: 24,336
Registered Miners: 120

pool.burstcoin.it
Pool balance: 77
Registered Miners: 52

I just noticed, that your boss's pool ninja lost some REGISTERED miners again. What a pity!

What's your opinion on the pool balance? in relation to registered / actual miners? I also asked that a long time ago, but figured it out in the meantime.

[Elmit]

I was mining with 2.3TB of plots for a week now. Today the pool stats show I have only .7 TB. Do the plot files get old.

Should I delete them then and create new fresh ones?

No, the plot files do not get old. The stats about your hard disk space is a guess. Tomorrow it might show you 7 TB ;-) 
It depends on your LUCK of being rewarded.

[Elmit]

Price is still down. Seems the ads did not attract enough to use BURSTs.

[riskyfire]

I was mining with 2.3TB of plots for a week now. Today the pool stats show I have only .7 TB. Do the plot files get old.

Should I delete them then and create new fresh ones?

The pool guesses how much storage you have based on your deadlines. It's not very accurate
it will go up and down according to your deadlines.

[notabeliever]

I was mining with 2.3TB of plots for a week now. Today the pool stats show I have only .7 TB. Do the plot files get old.

Should I delete them then and create new fresh ones?

The pool guesses how much storage you have based on your deadlines. It's not very accurate
it will go up and down according to your deadlines.

If there are sandbaggers on the pool getting 38-52% of the share then I don't have much deadlines so it would make sense. Could really use all of the 2.3 TB since I need to compete with those sandbaggers, before them was averaging 300 a day. Now maybe 5 a day


or what if my GPU Javaminer 3.6 wasn't working in that my gpu is tired?


Just saw the sandbaggers left so I picked up 8 burst, so thats the issue

[notabeliever]

I do have to thank all the Burst people for helping me get configured and  mine burst.
 
I'm able to use Blago or Jminer of which the way my system is configured it prefers Jminer.  

The new software helped a lot so thanks everyone.

[Elmit]

I do have to thank all the Burst people for helping me get configured and  mine burst.
 
I'm able to use Blago or Jminer of which the way my system is configured it prefers Jminer.  

The new software helped a lot so thanks everyone.

Do you have a Twitter account? Facebook account? or blog?
Post there your success story, please!

[Blago]

Pool Statistics
Current time: 2015-09-02 11:48:21 UTC
Block: 138,366
Difficulty: 10,457

BURST.MiningHere.com
Pool balance: 67,773
Registered Miners: 280

burst.ninja
Pool balance: 15,171
Registered Miners: 399

burst.poolto.be
Pool balance: 4,127
Registered Miners: 254

cryptomining.farm
Pool balance: 205,662
Registered Miners: 1,863

DevPool v2
Pool balance: 584,788
Registered Miners: 551

mining.tompool.org
Pool balance: 1,586
Registered Miners: 56

pool.blago
Pool balance: 571
Registered Miners: 113

pool.burstcoin.de
Pool balance: 24,336
Registered Miners: 120

pool.burstcoin.it
Pool balance: 77
Registered Miners: 52

Elmit, actually use the information "active miners", instead of "Registered Miners"


http://burstcoin.biz/pools


@SuchBurst (burstcoin.biz)  please add luxe's Jminer (https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/ann-burstcoin-jminer-gpu-assisted-poc-miner.842) to http://burstcoin.biz/downloads

[crowetic]

Why is everyone here still arguing about nonsense...

BTW - ByteEnt payouts should be accomplished soon... tiga will run them when he gets a chance.


Also, you can always watch the blockchain for the movement of the funds to the ByteEnt wallet, I always put a message from each account that I move the funds from, saying what the movement is, and that it is for the ByteEnt payout of (whatever month). The BURSTCITY miner has about 25TB mining for ByteEnt, and the rest comes from 100% of ninja's pool fee.




*side note - I'm thinking of cancelling the bank asset, I don't have as much trading money as I used to, and I don't have the time to focus on trading right now. I will keep everyone updated as far as what my decision is, but as of right now I'm pretty sure I'm going to cancel it.*


*another side note - I have something up for discussion right now in the core team, that if approved, will mean some big changes for BURST. I hope to post this soon. *

[crowetic]

I was mining with 2.3TB of plots for a week now. Today the pool stats show I have only .7 TB. Do the plot files get old.

Should I delete them then and create new fresh ones?

The pool guesses how much storage you have based on your deadlines. It's not very accurate
it will go up and down according to your deadlines.

If there are sandbaggers on the pool getting 38-52% of the share then I don't have much deadlines so it would make sense. Could really use all of the 2.3 TB since I need to compete with those sandbaggers, before them was averaging 300 a day. Now maybe 5 a day


or what if my GPU Javaminer 3.6 wasn't working in that my gpu is tired?


Just saw the sandbaggers left so I picked up 8 burst, so thats the issue

I don't know what you mean by sandbaggers, and the number that is calculated is a rough estimate, as noted above, it will change based on how 'lucky' your miner is. There is no way to tell the exact amount of space unless you're using blago's miner. So if you want an accurate size, use blago's miner and you won't have any confusion.

Either way all that matters is your actual plot size, and how many good deadlines you submit, just because the pool is saying the size is changing, obviously your plots aren't magically getting bigger and smaller on your drive. There's nothing to worry about.

[Elmit]

Pool Statistics
Current time: 2015-09-02 11:48:21 UTC
Block: 138,366
Difficulty: 10,457

BURST.MiningHere.com
Pool balance: 67,773
Registered Miners: 280

burst.ninja
Pool balance: 15,171
Registered Miners: 399

burst.poolto.be
Pool balance: 4,127
Registered Miners: 254

cryptomining.farm
Pool balance: 205,662
Registered Miners: 1,863

DevPool v2
Pool balance: 584,788
Registered Miners: 551

mining.tompool.org
Pool balance: 1,586
Registered Miners: 56

pool.blago
Pool balance: 571
Registered Miners: 113

pool.burstcoin.de
Pool balance: 24,336
Registered Miners: 120

pool.burstcoin.it
Pool balance: 77
Registered Miners: 52

Elmit, actually use the information "active miners", instead of "Registered Miners"


http://burstcoin.biz/pools


@SuchBurst (burstcoin.biz)  please add luxe's Jminer (https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/ann-burstcoin-jminer-gpu-assisted-poc-miner.842) to http://burstcoin.biz/downloads

There is no defined term "active miners", burstcoin used to calculate the last 24 hours. I have not found a fast way to calculate that.
I tend to use a temporary table of the last 24 hours of ALL transactions, and sum up for each pool the payments (amount, transaction to each miner)

[Elmit]

*side note - I'm thinking of cancelling the bank asset, I don't have as much trading money as I used to, and I don't have the time to focus on trading right now. I will keep everyone updated as far as what my decision is, but as of right now I'm pretty sure I'm going to cancel it.*

*another side note - I have something up for discussion right now in the core team, that if approved, will mean some big changes for BURST. I hope to post this soon. *

How do you "cancel an asset"?

Is "core team" the definition of the absent "developer (team)"?

[yeponlyone]

Ignored again. You just can stay normal, Elmit. Seek some help for your own sake. I know that you do not understand it, but you are decreasing the quality of this thread way too much.


Please: new, self-modded thread to get rid of all the nonsense.

[luxe]

Please: new, self-modded thread to get rid of all the nonsense.

No offense, but who should moderate it? This is a open community project ...
(Maybe my definition of nonsence is another than yours?!)
Maybe some users could reconsider, if this thread is the right place for their personal disputes.

[yeponlyone]

Please: new, self-modded thread to get rid of all the nonsense.

No offense, but who should moderate it? This is a open community project ...
(Maybe my definition of nonsence is another than yours?!)
Maybe some users could reconsider, if this thread is the right place for their personal disputes.

Some threads need to be self-moderated because they tend to drag certain characters in who wont understand that it is an open community project where 100s of people will read what they write.

With freedom comes responsibility.

Don't get me wrong. As this an open community project, nothing will and should of course stop them from contribute, whether in a main modded thread if the content is relevant, or in their own started thread where all nonsense is allowed. "Elmit's view on BURST"-thread can not and should not be stopped, but as he has some kind of disorder the devs shouldn't let him treat page after page as his personal blog.

The posting of nonsense and unneeded agitation is exactly what happened to xmr, which nearly died of all the irrelevant posts before they did this suggested change.