[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[wieme]

Hi,

I wanna get started.

Can someone please-pretty-please send me some Burst, so I can activate my account?

BURST-TBBT-RTBC-D2SM-78SYY


Thx,
Wieme

[Irontiga]

Can someone please-pretty-please send me some Burst, so I can activate my account?

http://faucet.burstcoin.info

[okae]

I think HDD mining is the future. Maybe this will take off or another something just lick it.

not only the future, "should" be the present too, things are not going good right now, thats true, but dont worry, things will change soon and you will see the power of BURST jeje, i will stay tuned at this thread in the next days

Looking forward to burst 2.0 

sad to tell you that POC 2 is in hold, but dont worry as i already said, i feel like things will change soon

[wieme]

Can someone please-pretty-please send me some Burst, so I can activate my account?

http://faucet.burstcoin.info

Faucets didn't work (for me). 

Thx for the burst!
I can try to the next step now.

Cheerz,
Wieme

[Elmit]

Is there the program code available for the faucet?

[Irontiga]

Is there the program code available for the faucet?

And i accidentally clicked the show button, and will grace you with an answer. It's on the first page here even...

[Elmit]

Is there the program code available for the faucet?

And i accidentally clicked the show button, and will grace you with an answer. It's on the first page here even...

Why do you need to proof yourself all the time as a smart-ass?

I know that you have hallucinations (working code, master of the core team, ...), but to imagine already show buttons is really the top you ever delivered.

For now lets jump on the train you just started.

I do not think that you invented the faucet by yourself. You are not that smart! BinLaden could do that, cat could do that, and deWallet or Lux, but not you. I believe you have got the code somewhere. Let me guess, as usually the readme file or similar will say something like: that the software is free to use, but there must be a link or credit to the original source.

Your site: http://faucet.burstcoin.info  does not fulfill this. Are you trying to emphasize that you are a notorious thief? Somebody who take other ones property for the own benefit?
Well, it reminds me on an accident transaction to you, and you, my friend, knowing very well that it was an accident, you did not find it worth to return the accidental transaction to me back. Why? Our psychiatrist would say it is an underlying thief's mind.


I would suggest we leave that subject at that point, without any reply from you, your friends headach, the psychiatrist or crow!

[crowetic]

Elmit,

     Thank you for constantly reminding me why the next thread we start will be self moderated. No one wants to hear your blabbering on about nothing and trying to convince people your scams are real and my real honest setups are scams.

It should be fairly plain to see based on trust rating, who is honest.

Please, can you please just stop. I ask you this because I grow more and more weary of your constant nonsense on a daily basis. Thank you!



@Haitch - I don't think he has a botnet, he's most definitely not smart enough for that, what I DO think, is that when he goes on site to 'fix' his 'clients' computers, he likely installs his own hidden BURST miner. Either that, or he is literally just plotting 12TB he has with multiple accounts and making it look like he's got more miners on his pool than he does.

[Elmit]

The PR machinery is still not moving.

Karl seems to have his last tweet on August 18.
real_BURSTCOIN had his last tweet on August 25.

It seems, that not just the dev team has left, but also the promotional team.

In place of that came the "core team" (of janitors???) - another secret society who will tell us how great BURST is, but without YOUR donation, we cannot do anything.
And what a pity, we did not take care of the fund, so somebody ran away with it.

Does this sound familiar to you?

Lets re-cap:

Burst has great features, but shhhh don't tell anybody!

Burst is easy to mine, just your hard disk, even a no-brainer software for Windows users had been created, but the network size goes down.

Burst has AT, Lottery, ..., but the only lottery that was a short time available wasn't active for a long, long time.

A 15 year old boy takes on at Etherium, but the BURST team cannot???

Burst has assets, ....

Burst has crowdfunding, ... but when we look for fundings for a simple promotion, we refer to use other platforms.
BUT, shouting with full lungs that BURST is the greatest, best and will be here forever and longer!!!

Maybe a look at the exchanges will give you an awaken. We dropped to 40 Satoshi, and there is no moving towards the old days of 300+

Burst could not even manage a "white paper" within 13 months of existence.

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So, either we start now to move TOGETHER, or just call it a day! and lets use our harddisk for other things.

[Elmit]

Elmit,

     Thank you for constantly reminding me why the next thread we start will be self moderated. No one wants to hear your blabbering on about nothing and trying to convince people your scams are real and my real honest setups are scams.

It should be fairly plain to see based on trust rating, who is honest.

Please, can you please just stop. I ask you this because I grow more and more weary of your constant nonsense on a daily basis. Thank you!

Question: What will arrive first, your third child or the white paper or the 6 pages you have in the works for weeks?

@Haitch - I don't think he has a botnet, he's most definitely not smart enough for that, what I DO think, is that when he goes on site to 'fix' his 'clients' computers, he likely installs his own hidden BURST miner. Either that, or he is literally just plotting 12TB he has with multiple accounts and making it look like he's got more miners on his pool than he does.

We don't fix computers, nor do we sell hardware. We not even use fake ssl (or nearly fake ssl) certificates. Only idiots go to a https site and blindly accept a "snake oil certificate". I am sure you do not understand that either!

[Blago]

Elmit,
     Thank you for constantly reminding me why the next thread we start will be self moderated. No one wants to hear your blabbering on about nothing and trying to convince people your scams are real and my real honest setups are scams.
It should be fairly plain to see based on trust rating, who is honest.

Please, can you please just stop. I ask you this because I grow more and more weary of your constant nonsense on a daily basis. Thank you!

Question: What will arrive first, your third child or the white paper or the 6 pages you have in the works for weeks?

Elmit, зaeбaл yжe cвoим нытьeм!
sorry, an outburst of profanity...

[crowetic]

Elmit,
     Thank you for constantly reminding me why the next thread we start will be self moderated. No one wants to hear your blabbering on about nothing and trying to convince people your scams are real and my real honest setups are scams.
It should be fairly plain to see based on trust rating, who is honest.

Please, can you please just stop. I ask you this because I grow more and more weary of your constant nonsense on a daily basis. Thank you!

Question: What will arrive first, your third child or the white paper or the 6 pages you have in the works for weeks?

Elmit, зaeбaл yжe cвoим нытьeм!
sorry, an outburst of profanity...

Blago! Very nice to see you man.

[crowetic]

Question: What will arrive first, your third child or the white paper or the 6 pages you have in the works for weeks?

First of all, my family has 3 children. Second of all, the paper is being reviewed by the team. Third, it took me 3 hours to write, but I wanted to get approval of the team before releasing to the community.


Some of the ideas in the paper are pretty controversial, and thus they haven't been fully sided with by the team.


For now, my plan is to write a new OP, make it easier to use, and give some ideas of what is going on right now, and what will happen in the future. Once again, this will be approved by the team then posted to the community.

I don't run this coin myself, I have a very capable team that I work with. Because of this, I don't just post things I think without making sure to have them reviewed by the other members, as they're very important to the project, and I don't want rash decisions by me to make them have ill will and possibly leave.

If you or anyone else cannot understand this, then I'm sorry.


@community - know that we're working on coming up with something that we believe will be agreeable. There are still many things being developed that are great, we just released the windows GUI thanks to daWallet, and luxe has made a fantastic GPU powered miner that increased performance DRASTICALLY. Just because there isn't updating going on in the core of the project itself, doesn't mean that development has come to a halt. Tools for the existing structure of the coin continue to be made, and improved upon. The structure of the coin is there, foundation is strong, and technology is still cutting edge.

Do not let trolls like Elmit sway you from your belief that this coin's mining style and technology is the future of crypto, because it is.

The fact that the coin is open source, means it will live on no matter what, and I for one (and I know at least a few others that are with me here) will not let the project end.

Thank you for your support.


Hard drive mining IS the future of mining, it is the way things were meant to be. It is easy to keep decentralized, and it is power efficient. It is more secure, and it is just fantastic overall. Not to mention the other cutting-edge pieces of software that are integrated into the BURST core.


I hope to have the new OP up after review very shortly. But I do not rush things. I would rather they come out perfect than be rushed and come out less than. Once again I call upon anyone who has any skillset they feel would be useful, to hit us up and join the team. We aren't this super exclusive group, we're originally members of the community who decided they wanted to do more, and give effort to make this coin what we all believe it will be.

Thanks.

[luxe]

[burstcoin-jminer]

As some may have noticed already burstforum.com is currently down.
This is serious, cause there was a lot of BURST related docs and infos.
However, i started a new thread in here, to be able to provide user-support for jminer:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1170987.msg12329106#msg12329106
You can use it for feedback and suggestions, too.

I recovered the old thread from burstforum.com via google cache and put it on github:
https://github.com/de-luxe/burstcoin-jminer/wiki/burstforum.com-thread-recovery

[allZuckedUp]

I have to say, I'm loving burst so far, but I have a long term concern.

You guys talk about things like how decentralized burst is, right alongside statements praising new developments like gpu mining.

I can't help but see those sorts of things as counter to each other in the long term.  What, in the future, would prevent relative few whales from putting up massive rigs fast connected to a few petabytes of storage, with GPU's driving utterly ridiculous numbers of nonces?  (working in IT for the last two decades, that sort of rig isn't really too hard to imagine, just damned expensive) 

Meaning it's not so decentralized when you need a minimum of 100T of dedicated storage just to make a dent.  You end up with pretty much bitcoin today, but without the userbase/value.  So, I've gotta ask, if there's something in the economic model that accounts for this?  Or are we just figuring expensive is good? (hopefully in terms of exchange rate too, right?)

[Irontiga]

I have to say, I'm loving burst so far, but I have a long term concern.

You guys talk about things like how decentralized burst is, right alongside statements praising new developments like gpu mining.

I can't help but see those sorts of things as counter to each other in the long term.  What, in the future, would prevent relative few whales from putting up massive rigs fast connected to a few petabytes of storage, with GPU's driving utterly ridiculous numbers of nonces?  (working in IT for the last two decades, that sort of rig isn't really too hard to imagine, just damned expensive)  

Meaning it's not so decentralized when you need a minimum of 100T of dedicated storage just to make a dent.  You end up with pretty much bitcoin today, but without the userbase/value.  So, I've gotta ask, if there's something in the economic model that accounts for this?  Or are we just figuring expensive is good? (hopefully in terms of exchange rate too, right?)

With bitcoin one can rent heaps of mining power for a couple hours and 51% attack. With Burst it isn't that easy. You first need to plot, and that will take a lot of hours. It's very rare anywhere to find a lot of gpu's hooked up with a load of hdd's. With this setup, it isn't really worth the attack, cause of the massive investment it takes. It's a bit like PoS, by attacking the network you are hurting yourself as well. Attacking the network damages it, and for anyone with plots this is not good. As the netsize increases it becomes much, much more secure.

Economically, Burst is not in a good place. 8PB is a lot storage, if you look at storj/sia's storage goals, we currently exceed them by a lot. Unfortunately our storage is not being used by files, but rather just nonces. But then when you look at storj and sia and maidsafe, their blockchains are either PoS (not my preference), or scypt/sha stuff. This is far from efficient. I believe that if we can get a storage system running on top of burst, using burst (kinda like storj on mastercoin, but using mastercoins for payment). Actually it'd be more like sia. Decentralized storage built in, but also the ability to rather share storage as well. This way people without lots of bandwidth can still mine, and those with lots of bandwidth can earn for storage sharing. A simple application can be built which allows you to automatically "mine" whatever is the most profitable, whether it be getting paid by others to store their files, or it be to mine coins and secure the blockchain.

I realize that most coins use a model of a decreasing block reward, and so does burst. Thing is though, all coins pretty much have the same issue, those who got in at the beginning are making loads, and can pretty much crash the coin due to how much they have. Imagine satoshi dumping all the btc he might have. Or someone else up there. Not good. I think that we should change burst from this model. I'm open to lots of discussion, and would love to hear how the community feels about this. My proposal is to freeze the block reward, and leave it what it is now forever. This will make burst's total supply unlimited, and seeing as the reward is already down quite a lot, the initial buyers and miners still have an advantage, but from this point on it's fair. Although the amount of coins being introduced daily then would remain constant, inflation % would decrease.

Another issue which burst is currently facing is a lack of funding and devs. All the clones have loads of it, and i dunno what to do about it. If nothing happens here then Burst is dead. It's the hard reality of it.

If idiot elmit is going to keep on abusing this thread complaining then all i can say is that he is a really sad person with no respect for anyone. I wrote my own faucet code, so stop complaining elmit. I realize that you wouldn't be able to code your own faucet, but that doesn't mean i can't. I'm actually over all this with you. If you don't stop then everyone's gonna quit. Everyone know's that your assets are a scam, if people still go ahead and buy then, well i can't stop them from banging their heads on a wall.

EDIT: Forgot something I would also likely be for some modifications to make burst more cpu intensive. This would be less efficient, true, but it would also make it harder for datacenters to get involved. Most average users have a lot higher cpu vs hdd ratio. I mean, they have enough cpu power to mine with a lot more hdd space than they generally have available, while currently the algo is quite low cpu, which is great for datacenters. It would also make it more attractive for miners who currently mine scrypt coins and bitcoin, as gpu's would be used more heavily there, giving them an advantage if they buy some hdds

[allZuckedUp]

That is a really well thought out answer.. thank you.

Most average users have a lot higher cpu vs hdd ratio.

That part is funny to me specifically... I don't disagree, at all. But, in my case, I've got an old hp thin client (not much better than a raspberry pi in cpu power and power usage, and only 1G RAM), and I've got 4 1T USB disks plugged into it... I think I'm screwing with your ratio.

[Irontiga]

That part is funny to me specifically... I don't disagree, at all. But, in my case, I've got an old hp thin client (not much better than a raspberry pi in cpu power and power usage, and only 1G RAM), and I've got 4 1T USB disks plugged into it... I think I'm screwing with your ratio.

Well, we have to make it hard for the techy guys ;P

And oh dear, i just noticed that all the stuff i host is down, i'm on it!

EDIT: Oh dear, looks like ddos.....

[haitch]

But Elmit, you still haven't answered, and actually just deleted as "nonsense", my request that you explain why:

1) You won't prove the 28TB you claim is backing you asset
2) Your asset only pays 1/3 of what it should, based on your own claims of what the asset is.

Can you get back to these items and explain please?

Thanks.

H.

[tanoury]

Help me mine at the DevPoolv2. I've been mining at various other Burst pools without a problem. When I try to connect to the DevPoolv2 I get this message in pocminer:

Warning: no passphrases.txt found
Mining without passphrases is currently not supported

Here is my run_mine.sh:

java -Xmx750m -cp pocminer.jar:lib/*:lib/akka/*:lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner mine "http://178.62.39.204:8121"

The passphrases.txt contains your BURST passphrase and is no needed for poolmining, so setup is not correct. Check usage at: http://178.62.39.204:8121/ you need to use pocminer_pool.jar!
Btw. there are also other miners out there, that support DevPoolV2 like:
https://github.com/Blagodarenko/miner-burst/releases
https://github.com/de-luxe/burstcoin-jminer/releases

A couple of things I'm not clear on:

1. Do I need to genrate new plots to mine at DevPoolv2?

2. My plots are on three hard drives. Do I just provide a link (short-cut) to them in the pocminr plot folder?

1. No, if you have plot-files for your account, you can use them for devV2Pool, too.
2. Multiple drives are not supported by pocminer, you need to run 3 instances or find a 'hack' to link them into one drive. The other miners above support multiple drives, they are optimized for that, by using one thread for each drive. For example look at jminer config: https://github.com/de-luxe/burstcoin-jminer/blob/master/jminer.default.properties

Thanks for the response luxe!

I do not  have a  passphrases.txt (I renamed it) and I am using pocminer_pool.jar!
All I'm getting is "Warning: no passphrases.txt found Mining without passphrases is currently not supported"

Is there something wrong with my pocminer_pool.jar?

java -cp pocminer.jar:lib/*:lib/akka/*:lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner mine http://127.0.0.1:8125 http://178.62.39.204:8121