Scientific proof that God exists?

[BADecker]

If bible, koran, torah and other holy scriptures are wrong this will not prove that there is no God. If there is a God there is no way we can prove his existence if he don't want to. Our civilization is still very young, still many things we cannot explained.

Sure, there is no way to prove god doesn't exist; but if we can continually make progress in our quest for knowledge without such a concept, why bother with it?

yes! maybe it's God's will to not know on how He's existing.

God is so great and complex that there is no way to understand how He exists. He has maintained an open door to salvation for us, by believing what He says without knowing how it works.

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[SBDomains]

There is no scientific proof that God exists, however there are many NDE cases. I would say first what is needed to be researched are NDE's (near death experiences, where people often claim that they have met deceased loved one's & a bright light that they usually describe as God). Google Sam Parnia and read some articles. There is a big research going on and results should be shared publicly in a month or two.

[bigmane47]

The Bible simply never says "Jesus is God" and you can see this fact on the Wikipedia page for "Christ".

However, the Bible does express that Jesus is God.

http://www.gotquestions.org/is-Jesus-God.html

https://carm.org/bible-verses-show-jesus-divine

http://bugman123.com/Bible/JesusIsGod.html

Many more sites show the same, but some of the others may have even more info.

Yea Dr. Warren Gage also says this in his article for the goodnews. https://www.goodnewsfl.org/is-jesus-god/

[Mttewndew]

God is not some person who rules the world. These are Nature, fundamental laws. each of us has a piece of God, therefore, evidence is not needed here. People make me laugh when they try to prove the existence of God in a scientific way. After all, science is just one of the ways of knowing the world. You can do the same with, for example, esoterics, or anything else.

[BADecker]

The fact that science exists, and that we, as individual beings, can examine science, is proof that God exists. Where would science come from if not from God. Where would the material of the universe come from if not from God? Where would the empty space that holds the stars, etc., come from if not from God?

Why God? Why not that the things that exist simply have somehow "jumped" into being by themselves? Because of the complexity. Standard scientific understanding says that complexity can only come from something more complex. Entropy shows that this is true. Things only decrease, because entropy permeates all things.

We have no evidence of anything simply jumping into existence... not a shred of evidence. The gigantic complexity of the universe shows that there had to have been a super-intelligence with super-abilities to have put it all together. That is what the definition of "God" is.

[YuSoDum]

Step 1: Go to youtube
Step 2: Search for Zeitgeist
Step 3: Watch the first one (split into 3 sections: Goverment/Religion/Current events
Step 4: Utilise common sense and make your own decisions.

[BADecker]

Go to science. Put cause-and-effect, entropy, and complexity together, and try to get our universe without God.

Bonus: All our machines come from machinery operations in the universe. None of the machines we make is ever made from machinery operations from outside the universe. The universe is a machine. Machines have makers.

[IadixDev]

The fact that science exists, and that we, as individual beings, can examine science, is proof that God exists. Where would science come from if not from God. Where would the material of the universe come from if not from God? Where would the empty space that holds the stars, etc., come from if not from God?

Why God? Why not that the things that exist simply have somehow "jumped" into being by themselves? Because of the complexity. Standard scientific understanding says that complexity can only come from something more complex. Entropy shows that this is true. Things only decrease, because entropy permeates all things.

We have no evidence of anything simply jumping into existence... not a shred of evidence. The gigantic complexity of the universe shows that there had to have been a super-intelligence with super-abilities to have put it all together. That is what the definition of "God" is.

Yes ! I can never understand how scientist can be atheist. Those who are nihilists Who think everything is just chaos and dont care ok, but scientists Who believe that mathematics is the language of the universe, Who are seeking logical reasonning and rationalism to explain the universe, then saying it has no purpose or reason , i dont understand. Believing in science to describe the universe with logical reasonning is pretty much the same than saying there is a god.

[josephsonand]

I'm sure that nature, God and the universe are one and the same. We can see nature, we can explore the universe - therefore God is everywhere.

[BARADED]

And maybe, - the first woman has started talking, - soul of the person lives in his hands? Because all, what we do in peace, we do hands». © Ray Bradbury “Embroidery”

[af_newbie]

Go to science. Put cause-and-effect, entropy, and complexity together, and try to get our universe without God.

Bonus: All our machines come from machinery operations in the universe. None of the machines we make is ever made from machinery operations from outside the universe. The universe is a machine. Machines have makers.

And Gods have makers who also have makers, ad infinitum.

[BADecker]

Go to science. Put cause-and-effect, entropy, and complexity together, and try to get our universe without God.

Bonus: All our machines come from machinery operations in the universe. None of the machines we make is ever made from machinery operations from outside the universe. The universe is a machine. Machines have makers.

And Gods have makers who also have makers, ad infinitum.

How do you know that ALL gods have makers? You don't. You operate by universe physics, and can't really determine what physics would be like outside of the universe.

God is outside the universe as well as within it. However, when He made the universe, He was outside of it. Do you have evidence of what things outside the universe are like? Perhaps things out there have always existed... without beginning or end.

[af_newbie]

Go to science. Put cause-and-effect, entropy, and complexity together, and try to get our universe without God.

Bonus: All our machines come from machinery operations in the universe. None of the machines we make is ever made from machinery operations from outside the universe. The universe is a machine. Machines have makers.

And Gods have makers who also have makers, ad infinitum.

How do you know that ALL gods have makers? You don't. You operate by universe physics, and can't really determine what physics would be like outside of the universe.

God is outside the universe as well as within it. However, when He made the universe, He was outside of it. Do you have evidence of what things outside the universe are like? Perhaps things out there have always existed... without beginning or end.

I don't.  I don't believe there is such a thing.

If anything has a maker, the maker must have a maker as well.  Just following your watchmaker argument.

BTW, how do you know our universe is a machine?  Show me the plans for it.

[OnaThibault]

No one can prove that God exists. I mean a scientific explanation!

[IadixDev]

No one can prove that God exists. I mean a scientific explanation!

We never proven a single thing to be true with absolute certitude in the whole history of mankind.

Need to be a bit humble with what we think we know





Said the wisest man of athen.


If by "proof" you mean formal proof, all you can prove is conformity of a statement with a set of axioms, but you can never prove the axioms are true. If you follow liebniz concept of sufficient reason that require To prove something true as Well as that it cannot be otherwise and the solution is the best possible, you can never prove this using a formal proof system, as godel theorem shows.

[Mttewndew]

No one can prove that God exists. I mean a scientific explanation!

How can you explain Love (absolute, not just to a certain person) by science? How can you prove goodness, honesty, justice and all the good that exists? it just exists.

It is wrong to compare science and esotericism (religion, faith, and everything related to it). They all exist in parallel. The brain - thinks and analyzes, the soul - feels and understands (and this is closer to the truth than in science).

In addition, we must not forget that science cannot prove everything, this is just another way of understanding the world.

[bitvestorhacked]

Religion, the tool that has been used to enslave man for thousands of years.
Do's and Don't to keep man in line, the law govt, Holy book from different religions, promises of freewill that we never have, restrictions in the name of religions, mind control, brain washing, and yet we are still dammed.

[BADecker]

Religion, the tool that has been used to enslave man for thousands of years.
Do's and Don't to keep man in line, the law govt, Holy book from different religions, promises of freewill that we never have, restrictions in the name of religions, mind control, brain washing, and yet we are still dammed.

Because man is too stupid on his own to realize that he is destroying himself when he doesn't obey the do's and don't's.

[somjaina142]

I think this is just a massive Telephone Game. The original story gets ridiculously twisted as the message is passed.

[BADecker]

I think this is just a massive Telephone Game. The original story gets ridiculously twisted as the message is passed.

What does that^^ mean?

We look at records from the past - like the Dead Sea Scrolls, up to 2,400 years old - to see that the message has not changed.