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October 17, 2018, 12:29:37 PM
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I still think it can fall another 80%.  I have a few buy orders down in the $30 dollar range myself but I'm only using a small portion of my funds.  The only two coins I trust are bitcoin and ethereum.  Monero is too much of a low cap for me to put a large amount of money into it.  Its a coin you want ot trade quick for profits, he is not fit to hold like bitcoin.

Joined January 2017... and only trusting BTC and ETH ... much of a hype boy you are.... actually montero was one of the more stable coins in the past months so "fit to hold" is actually a fit.
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October 17, 2018, 01:27:24 PM
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What will happen if eth adds anonymity to its blockchain? If it will be any need in XMR or zcash?

I dont belive there is much of a use case for ETH beyond crowdfunding founds for startups. By crowdfunding with ICO those startups avoid some of laws and regulations they should not avoid. Pretty soon that will end.   Monero have clear usecase that will not get depleted.  

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October 17, 2018, 02:56:09 PM
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I used to believe in this coin but I pretty much lost all my faith in it.  I sold my bags because I don't want to keep losing money.  I feel safer with my money in bitcoin because it has a large amount of daily volume.  The low volume of monero is concerning and I really think it will crash a lot more.

I don't think Monero has any real usecase.  All the online shops accept bitcoin and ethereum, they don't take monero  it doesn't look like shitcoins like monero have gained much adoption.
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October 17, 2018, 02:58:07 PM
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What will happen if eth adds anonymity to its blockchain? If it will be any need in XMR or zcash?

You can't add privacy like a feature, it has to be the raison d'être. As we saw from Zcash's experiment with opt in privacy, you end up with a small anonymity set and broken privacy.
They want to add z-snark to eth. And another problem anonymity on low volume coins is not very good, all these transactions can be traced easily. Only eth and BTC have great volume, so IMHO they can succeed.

See, now take note you n00b trolls, this is how you do it.

So in answering your question zk-snark is a trusted setup so if you believe in a trusted setup for a privacy coin then your daft and as had been pointed out, opt in privacy is a non functional approach.

But keep trying as you are much better. Wink


What will happen if eth adds anonymity to its blockchain? If it will be any need in XMR or zcash?

You can't add privacy like a feature, it has to be the raison d'être. As we saw from Zcash's experiment with opt in privacy, you end up with a small anonymity set and broken privacy.
They want to add z-snark to eth. And another problem anonymity on low volume coins is not very good, all these transactions can be traced easily. Only eth and BTC have great volume, so IMHO they can succeed.

Lol volume on exchanges does not equate to transactions on chain but again nice try. Keep going you'll hit something eventually. how about anonymity sets in varying ring sizes? You might get some headway there.


I used to believe in this coin but I pretty much lost all my faith in it.  I sold my bags because I don't want to keep losing money.  I feel safer with my money in bitcoin because it has a large amount of daily volume.  The low volume of monero is concerning and I really think it will crash a lot more.

I don't think Monero has any real usecase.  All the online shops accept bitcoin and ethereum, they don't take monero  it doesn't look like shitcoins like monero have gained much adoption.

Low volume ATM means no-one is selling and whales are trying to fill their bags cheap, you were a fool to sell. I bet you you can't buy back that cheap.

AFA usecase, well that just shows your a moron.

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October 17, 2018, 08:50:45 PM
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What happened to the bygone days when trolls were competent, or at least tried hard?
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October 17, 2018, 09:39:35 PM
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What happened to the bygone days when trolls were competent, or at least tried hard?

Having an opinion now makes you a troll?  I'm sure you guys are all right, monero will surpass bitcoin in marketcap and be over $10,000 each xmr....................
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October 17, 2018, 09:41:25 PM
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I invented a very good tactic for myself, I sold all my Monero and bought NEO and ETH for these funds. It seems to me that these coins will bring me much more profit than I would keep my money in Monero, although the coin is very serious and strong.

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Haha! Fucking trolltastic - what fun.

You have to wonder why... all of a sudden we are blessed with so many pathetic visiting losers. They have given themselves away by all coming at once.  Plus, well - they are just so terribly BAD at trolling, it's hilarious.

Gimme a troll worth a fight, for fuck's sake - this lot are pathetic.

I mean - if you liked only two coins - would you go and tell the other 1500 coins they're not good enough?  In person?  I am guessing not.  So why here, do tell? 

Would you you say a coin is too small to invest in, but claim you have low bids at 30% of the current price?  As a proper investor, why let money rot waiting for a price that at the very worst isn't going to happen anytime soon?  It's not a great strategy - especially in a coin you don't think is worth it.

I could go on, by why waste my time on illiterate noob wannabe investors who could have bought Monero at 25c three years ago (when now it is four hundred times more valuable), but missed the boat and now presumably are forced to take pennies for poorly executed trolling work.  They aren't even coherent, or any good.

Proposition:  If you're serious - short Monero?  No one can stop you.  It's possible and if you're right, profitable.  But you won't will, you - because:

1. You have no funds to do so.
2. You are terrible traders.
3. You know damn well there is a lot of money that supports XMR and so you will get seriously REKT.

Hence trying to 'talk' it down for bigger fish who fund you. 

Losers.  Please grow some balls and go borrow and short Monero.  Walk into our open arms and lose money donating us cheap coins.

I dare you.  My wallet awaits your donation.  Don't be afraid it's not big enough, I will still accept it.

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October 17, 2018, 11:10:57 PM
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Having an opinion now makes you a troll?  I'm sure you guys are all right, monero will surpass bitcoin in marketcap and be over $10,000 each xmr....................

We're just asking for a little bit of effort, is that too much to ask for? Smiley


I invented a very good tactic for myself, I sold all my Monero and bought NEO and ETH for these funds. It seems to me that these coins will bring me much more profit than I would keep my money in Monero, although the coin is very serious and strong.

Would you care to give an analysis of why you believe this or is it just a ROMA prediction?



What happened to the bygone days when trolls were competent, or at least tried hard?

Back in my day we had to walk both ways up hill in the snow to get there.

Haha! Fucking trolltastic - what fun....

Nice hats! Smiley

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October 18, 2018, 12:06:31 AM
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Haha! Fucking trolltastic - what fun.

You have to wonder why... all of a sudden we are blessed with so many pathetic visiting losers. They have given themselves away by all coming at once.  Plus, well - they are just so terribly BAD at trolling, it's hilarious.

Gimme a troll worth a fight, for fuck's sake - this lot are pathetic.

I mean - if you liked only two coins - would you go and tell the other 1500 coins they're not good enough?  In person?  I am guessing not.  So why here, do tell?  

Would you you say a coin is too small to invest in, but claim you have low bids at 30% of the current price?  As a proper investor, why let money rot waiting for a price that at the very worst isn't going to happen anytime soon?  It's not a great strategy - especially in a coin you don't think is worth it.

I could go on, by why waste my time on illiterate noob wannabe investors who could have bought Monero at 25c three years ago (when now it is four hundred times more valuable), but missed the boat and now presumably are forced to take pennies for poorly executed trolling work.  They aren't even coherent, or any good.

Proposition:  If you're serious - short Monero?  No one can stop you.  It's possible and if you're right, profitable.  But you won't will, you - because:

1. You have no funds to do so.
2. You are terrible traders.
3. You know damn well there is a lot of money that supports XMR and so you will get seriously REKT.

Hence trying to 'talk' it down for bigger fish who fund you.  

Losers.  Please grow some balls and go borrow and short Monero.  Walk into our open arms and lose money donating us cheap coins.

I dare you.  My wallet awaits your donation.  Don't be afraid it's not big enough, I will still accept it.

Even if I don't believe in a coin doesn't mean I won't trade it for a quick profit.  Even when something crashes, it goes through upswings on the way down.  I just don't think Monero will survive in the long term.  MY bets are on Bitcoin and Ethereum.  These two are the clear favorites and they have by far the largest trading volumes.  You seem to be bragging about the money you made off Monero, well you would have had higher returns if you invested at the start of ethereum or bitcoin.

The way I see it, only a few coins will survive.  Most altcoins will go crash to zero.  No I do not short, the market can stay irrational longer than you remain solvent.

But of course I'm just a troll, Monero will surely overtake bitcoin and become the number 1 cryptocurrency throughout the land and reach 20k each. Huh Huh
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October 18, 2018, 12:23:28 AM
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I invented a very good tactic for myself, I sold all my Monero and bought NEO and ETH for these funds. It seems to me that these coins will bring me much more profit than I would keep my money in Monero, although the coin is very serious and strong.

I do not see any logic in your trading. Monero has a very distinct character from almost any other project, your anonymity is guaranteed. It is not an extra function, it is not an add-on. It is part of the essence of the project.

This distinguishes Monero from 99% of the other assets and for that reason, it can be added in any portfolio.

NEO and ETH are competing projects. But NEO has an additional problem, is centralized, and the token that funds the negotiations is separate. That is, you buy shares of a project that has little power of influence and with little utility.
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October 18, 2018, 05:13:55 AM
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What happened to the bygone days when trolls were competent, or at least tried hard?

Having an opinion now makes you a troll?  I'm sure you guys are all right, monero will surpass bitcoin in marketcap and be over $10,000 each xmr....................

Have a read, but sure you are the pro in evaluating coinmarketcaps  Grin Cheesy

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October 18, 2018, 06:34:00 AM
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What happened to the bygone days when trolls were competent, or at least tried hard?
I didn't want to troll anybody, just asking your opinion about news and what will happen with privacy coins. Can anyone advice where I can see the volume of transactions in monero network?

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Even if I don't believe in a coin doesn't mean I won't trade it for a quick profit.  Even when something crashes, it goes through upswings on the way down.  I just don't think Monero will survive in the long term.  MY bets are on Bitcoin and Ethereum.  These two are the clear favorites and they have by far the largest trading volumes.  You seem to be bragging about the money you made off Monero, well you would have had higher returns if you invested at the start of ethereum or bitcoin.

The way I see it, only a few coins will survive.  Most altcoins will go crash to zero.  No I do not short, the market can stay irrational longer than you remain solvent.

But of course I'm just a troll, Monero will surely overtake bitcoin and become the number 1 cryptocurrency throughout the land and reach 20k each. Huh Huh

I am not boasting about or even discussing my wealth, I never do.

You're welcome to trade whatever you like.  And if you want to trade Monero, that's fine - it's the Monero speculation thread, and a lot of people who trade it stop by here.  It's a good thread where a lot of people make intelligent points, or usefully disseminate news.

I just wondered why you are here telling us Ether and Bitcoin are better and Monero has no long term future.

I doubt there are many here who haven't got Bitcoin, so, ok.   Eth, well - each to their own, fine.   But this thread is about Monero - and the only thing you seem to say is that it won't survive in the long term.  Well, nothing will survive in the long term.

So - is that it? 

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October 18, 2018, 09:52:24 AM
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Its roughly release day now, right?

What will be the impact on market price etc?

Exciting



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October 18, 2018, 11:18:13 AM
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Its roughly release day now, right?

What will be the impact on market price etc?

Exciting


I'm going to say its a very smooth quiet day. Nice easy transition. No major difficulty drop. No miners freaking out. No price swings. Just business as usual...

Wishful thinking?
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October 18, 2018, 11:29:03 AM
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I guess waiting to see there isn't a cataclysmic problem with the system makes sense.

So any positive effect that isn't priced in already should come after it's all quiet for sufficient time to prove 'all is well'.

It is a big upgrade, so I really do hope there is a price lift.  We shall see.

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Also my thoughts, that is why I visited our good 'ol Monero thread.

But on second thought, I think this major upgrade is already priced-in during the 2017 run-up.

IMHO, it is more to the downside in case of "major issue/s" during the hard fork.

"In a bear market, any good news doesn't push the price up.
In a bull market, any bad news doesn't pull the price down."

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What happened to the bygone days when trolls were competent, or at least tried hard?
Having an opinion now makes you a troll?  I'm sure you guys are all right, monero will surpass bitcoin in marketcap and be over $10,000 each xmr....................

But of course I'm just a troll, Monero will surely overtake bitcoin and become the number 1 cryptocurrency throughout the land and reach 20k each. Huh Huh


I read this thread quite often from the start and huge majority of people here dont believe that Monero will overcome Bitcoin any time soon. So yes you claiming this on at least two occasions, you are a troll.



The way I see it, only a few coins will survive.  Most altcoins will go crash to zero.  No I do not short, the market can stay irrational longer than you remain solvent.

I totally agree that most coins will not survive or at least not be worth millions or billions as now. But Monero have huge chance of being among those few survivors. Definatelly way bigger then ETH you mention.

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October 18, 2018, 01:49:40 PM
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What happened to the bygone days when trolls were competent, or at least tried hard?
I didn't want to troll anybody, just asking your opinion about news and what will happen with privacy coins. Can anyone advice where I can see the volume of transactions in monero network?

You cant see volume since Monero is a privacy coin and it hides amount of coins you sent. You can see a number of transactions.  https://www.monero.how/  is good site for that it also compare them with Bitcoins number.

Monero have clear use case and will be used as long as it will work as is planed so far. Its use case is not a speculation or trading on exchanges as 99% of other coins.

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