thedreamer
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July 27, 2016, 07:07:05 PM |
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I brought up the same question about my reported best shares being much higher than the pool status page bestshare, yet was told to 'Not worry about it'... So who knows. ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif)
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Go Big or Go Home.
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ComputerGenie
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July 27, 2016, 08:55:03 PM |
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...You are, however, arguing with Kano which will get you banned or jumped on by half the community. Just a heads up.
Initially, I wasn't going to respond to that part, but.... It leads me to ask, "If two grown men on a site can't have a rational conversation (heated or otherwise) without one one of them getting banned (or uninvolved 3rd parties 'jumping on' one of them), should a grown man care if he gets banned from such a site?" Now, that's not to say I want to be banned; just that all ongoing conversations are 2-way exchanges and I have better things to worry about than if random strangers get butthurt over random comments on the interweb.
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If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer. Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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os2sam
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July 27, 2016, 11:10:24 PM |
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On to something that actually matters to me...
I have a question that I'm not sure if goes here or in ckpool/proxy, but here goes:
Firstly, I'm aware that "best share" doesn't really "matter" (especially so soon after reboots); however, I despise synchronization issues.
That being said: I'm running all machines through ckproxy. I have a 28,181,771(.733868394) best share reported by the site. I have a 76,532,480 report from machine 1 I have a 42,359,439 report from machine 3 I have a 37,693,724 report from machine 8
Any idea why the mis-match?
If your "machines" are ASIC's with custom versions of CGMiner then they may have broke a portion of the code that reports the best share. That's the explanation I've seen when others have asked that anyway. Just a WAG, Sam
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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ComputerGenie
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July 27, 2016, 11:14:48 PM |
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If your "machines" are ASIC's with custom versions of CGMiner then they may have broke a portion of the code that reports the best share. That's the explanation I've seen when others have asked that anyway.
Just a WAG, Sam
No more custom than any other S7 or S9
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If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer. Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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Mikestang
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July 27, 2016, 11:48:29 PM |
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By "custom" he meant the antpoo fork of cgminer, which is notorious for incorrectly reporting the best share, among other things.
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ComputerGenie
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July 28, 2016, 12:09:59 AM |
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By "custom" he meant the antpoo fork of cgminer...
And here all this time I thought Bitmain made miners and ran a pool. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Thanks for letting me know that the pool makes the miners. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer. Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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kano
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July 28, 2016, 12:29:29 AM |
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However, converting that to 1 in Xyears is incorrect.
Then why do you do it in your calculator? Your Average Time per Block: 1768days 19hr 43min 37sec Simply coz it caters for people with enough hash rate to get a valid number there also. I guess if you enter a small hash rate I could ban you from seeing that number if you thought that was appropriate ... ... ... ... ... However, no one has ever donated a single satoshi to that web site in the years it's been there, so I only change it when I feel like it, not when people complain about it trying to cover their mistakes ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I guess it would help if you actually bothered to look what's there also ... Scroll down and it allows you to estimate the diff change and thus get a BTC estimate based on your choice of diff changing. Yep, caters for all sorts of people to get estimates ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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KyrosKrane
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July 28, 2016, 02:55:19 AM |
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More out of nostalgia than anything else, I broke out my old mining kit (Raspberry Pi and some hubs) and installed a trio of Block Erupters on it. I've got them pointed at the pool now. I figure I have about as much chance of hitting a block with a whopping 1GH/s as I do at winning the gazillion-dollar lottery, but hey, either way it's a dream. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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ComputerGenie
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July 28, 2016, 05:05:46 AM |
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However, no one has ever donated a single satoshi to that web site in the years it's been there, so I only change it when I feel like it, not when people complain about it trying to cover their mistakes ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Your hubris knows no bounds, does it? ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer. Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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Ruu \o/
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July 28, 2016, 12:27:41 PM |
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[2016-07-28 07:07:54.614] Possible block solve diff 428832493559.277649 ! [2016-07-28 07:07:54.748] BLOCK ACCEPTED! [2016-07-28 07:07:54.748] Solved and confirmed block 422592 by 1D6jWP3f9C8YevncEYiB7EZiuhkt4VypoW [2016-07-28 07:07:54.748] User 1D6jWP3f9C8YevncEYiB7EZiuhkt4VypoW:{"hashrate1m": "4.42P", "hashrate5m": "4.2P", "hashrate1hr": "3.72P", "hashrate1d": "640T", "hashrate7d": "431T"} [2016-07-28 07:07:54.748] Worker 1D6jWP3f9C8YevncEYiB7EZiuhkt4VypoW:{"hashrate1m": "4.42P", "hashrate5m": "4.2P", "hashrate1hr": "3.72P", "hashrate1d": "640T", "hashrate7d": "431T"} [2016-07-28 07:07:54.748] Block solved after 494460446877 shares at 231.6% diff
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/block/000000000000000002905d77133e852dc02d79f0620d3fe30dd13e71e82b010c
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Developer/maintainer for cgminer, ckpool/ckproxy, and the -ck kernel 2% Fee Solo mining at solo.ckpool.org -ck
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madmartyk
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July 28, 2016, 12:29:15 PM |
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4.42P Geeze! So much for the little guys getting one!! Congrats!!!
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kano
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July 28, 2016, 12:34:38 PM |
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However, no one has ever donated a single satoshi to that web site in the years it's been there, so I only change it when I feel like it, not when people complain about it trying to cover their mistakes ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You know no bounds See even I can remove some of your post and pretend it says something that it didn't ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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ComputerGenie
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July 28, 2016, 01:57:14 PM |
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See even I can remove some of your post and pretend it says something that it didn't ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) And all this time I thought that anyone with an education beyond grade 3 knew that the delusional perception of my taking a comment "out of context" and your notion of a "hatchet job" of a comment weren't the same thing (or even close to the same thing). In context: Q: Why, in the name of all that is holy, would anyone pay you anything for a stand-alone page that even you admit is lacking. A: Your inane hubris that comes from your beloved sycophants feeding your narcissistic delusions of grandeur.
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If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer. Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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kano
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July 28, 2016, 02:27:21 PM |
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See even I can remove some of your post and pretend it says something that it didn't ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) And all this time I thought that anyone with an education beyond grade 3 knew that the delusional perception of my taking a comment "out of context" and your notion of a "hatchet job" of a comment weren't the same thing (or even close to the same thing). In context: Q: Why, in the name of all that is holy, would anyone pay you anything for a stand-alone page that even you admit is lacking. A: Your inane hubris that comes from your beloved sycophants feeding your narcissistic delusions of grandeur. Well I did repeat grade 1 ... can't remember how far I got after that ... but your big words scare me ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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ComputerGenie
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July 28, 2016, 02:35:16 PM |
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Well I did repeat grade 1 ... can't remember how far I got after that ... but your big words scare me ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Oddly, none of that surprises me. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer. Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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chiguireitor
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July 28, 2016, 04:04:22 PM |
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Btw, what page is the troll talking about?
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ComputerGenie
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July 28, 2016, 04:23:29 PM |
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Btw, what page is the [anti-]troll talking about?
![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) It's not that hard to follow along... Kano made a page on the interweb and titled it "Pool BTC Calculator" (he referred to that page [and presumably including the coinciding page titled "POT Share Calculator"] as a "site").
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If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer. Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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HerbPean
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July 28, 2016, 04:23:59 PM |
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I brought up the same question about my reported best shares being much higher than the pool status page bestshare, yet was told to 'Not worry about it'... So who knows. ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif) Best share stats are reset upon a restart of the server ... your miner can report 1 Trillions Best Share value, and after the reboot you'll only see the best share since the restart. Otherwise, I never saw my best share not matching the one from the stats.
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HerbPean
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July 28, 2016, 05:24:14 PM |
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However, converting that to 1 in Xyears is incorrect.
Then why do you do it in your calculator? Your Average Time per Block: 1768days 19hr 43min 37sec It just give you an idea of what it would take if the Diff doesn't change for a year. We all know it doesn't work like that. Why is this so outrageous ?
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ComputerGenie
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July 28, 2016, 05:45:14 PM |
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It just give you an idea of what it would take if the Diff doesn't change for a year. We all know it doesn't work like that. Why is this so outrageous ?
Because Kano likes to be a pseudo-intellectual. In his mind: Chance of you finding a block in one day: 1 in 1,929.6 is, somehow, magically different than Your Average Time per Block: 1929days 14hr 58min 29sec[1] He just can't grasp that saying "1 in 1,929.6" and "average of ~5.3 years" (based on 5.5TH/s) are the exact same thing. Basically if you're not a sycophant, you're wrong even if you agree. [1] 1929days 14hr 58min 29sec = ~5.3 years
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If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer. Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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