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Author Topic: SatoshiDICE.com - The World's Most Popular Bitcoin Game  (Read 469389 times)
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April 04, 2013, 10:14:55 PM
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I've received them now, took very long time for me. Thx for the reply though, evoorhees!

Do you have any ideas why so many of my bets now takes kinda long time to get processed? Majority of the bets takes 15-20 minutes..strange, huh? Wasn't like that yesterday.
I'm using the 'regular' Bitcoin client, Bitcoin-Qt it's called right? Is there perhaps a better alternative for a client when betting at SD ?

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April 04, 2013, 10:20:54 PM
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I'm wondering what's with this:
"On a win or a lose a transaction fee of 0.0005 is subtracted from the payment amount"

Yet I received exactly 0.01957 back from a winning 0.01 bet. No fee subtracted?

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April 04, 2013, 10:27:52 PM
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ThickAsThieves: I'm waiting to find out if I've won or not.

I sometimes verify that the bet went through by looking up the transaction-ID at blockchain.info, and they're all there and looks OK.

But how does the payout depend on miners? I mean since SD works with zero confirmation it shouldn't matter..or?
Note: I'm still quite a newbie regarding Bitcoin so please correct me if I got this wrong.

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April 04, 2013, 11:04:23 PM
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SD doesn't work on zero confirmations anymore, in almost all bets it will wait at least one confirmation to avoid the following situation.

-you send a large bet to satoshi dice and doesn't put a miner fee in it.
-Satoshidice generate a random number and in this case you lost, so it will send you a transaction showing that you lost.
- as you lost, you use the same coins that you sent to satoshi dice in another transaction, but in this case you put a generous miner fee.
- As miners are looking for profitable transactions, they will pick your last transaction with the fee to confirm, and you won't lose your coins to satoshidice

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April 04, 2013, 11:33:37 PM
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Oh I didn't know that, must have missed that.
Thx for the explanation BRules, much appreciated!

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April 05, 2013, 12:24:12 AM
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Hi Eric - how often does the leaderboard get updated?   Grin

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April 05, 2013, 03:42:34 AM
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i want to know why when i send a chain of bets in they get confirmed then i have to wait 20 mins for them to process. twice i make a chain of bets then i watch other ppl make bets then win with their 1 or 2 bets. then i lose 10 in a row. the bets should be processed in the order they are recieved. this seems like a scam
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April 05, 2013, 03:43:06 AM
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its like they are jumping the line to steal my win... i have been screwed out of probably 3 btc because of this.
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April 05, 2013, 04:54:34 AM
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i want to know why when i send a chain of bets in they get confirmed then i have to wait 20 mins for them to process. twice i make a chain of bets then i watch other ppl make bets then win with their 1 or 2 bets. then i lose 10 in a row. the bets should be processed in the order they are recieved. this seems like a scam

you have no clue how satoshidice works do you?

you should read their verification section before accusing them of a scam.

from the site:

"Lucky Number

The lucky number used to determine the winner of games is simple. It is simply the first bytes of hmac_sha512(secert,txid:out_idx). That would be the secret string as the key and the transaction ID of your bet transaction as the data.

You can see all of this on the full details page for your transaction."

so no matter if you transaction was the first or the last as the only thing that matters is you transaction id

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April 05, 2013, 08:40:05 PM
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so no matter if you transaction was the first or the last as the only thing that matters is you transaction id

... and the date.  If they let enough others jump in front of you that your bet is put off until the next day theyn your lucky number will be different, since they use a different secret each day.

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April 05, 2013, 08:55:42 PM
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its like they are jumping the line to steal my win... i have been screwed out of probably 3 btc because of this.

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April 05, 2013, 09:00:24 PM
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so no matter if you transaction was the first or the last as the only thing that matters is you transaction id

... and the date.  If they let enough others jump in front of you that your bet is put off until the next day they your lucky number will be different, since they use a different secret each day.

hmmmm, you're right, didn't think about this situation. So, looks like satoshidice can cheat (but I'm sure they aren't doing this) in this rare situation. Well, Nothing is perfect.

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April 05, 2013, 09:05:12 PM
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Technically, another "cheating" vector would be just to use site funds to keep betting on itself and winning (never really lose any money). Keeps the investors/public thinking there is activity, and also reduces the chance of others winning. Not saying this is happening, but it is possible.

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April 05, 2013, 09:49:11 PM
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Technically, another "cheating" vector would be just to use site funds to keep betting on itself and winning (never really lose any money). Keeps the investors/public thinking there is activity, and also reduces the chance of others winning. Not saying this is happening, but it is possible.

I think this "cheating" vector will only cheat the investors, if they're always winning it will reduce the return to the investors. but it won't change anything to the players as the return is fixed per bet and the lucky number only depends on transaction, vout of the transaction and the day it was processed.

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April 06, 2013, 02:06:08 PM
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Share value is plummeting.
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April 07, 2013, 05:42:10 AM
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I think SDICE should have a chat box, so that folks can hang out, chitchat, challenge one another for a luck test, troubleshooting, pr, and what not, eventually being more loyal to the site.

Even btc-e has it.
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April 07, 2013, 06:55:30 AM
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Satoshi dice down? I am sending bets from blockchain but its not going through. But on my other blockchain account its going through.

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April 08, 2013, 02:21:18 AM
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It's been many days, I sent .004 BTC to one of the lucky number addresses and never got a response. Using Bitcoin-qt. The transaction is confirmed. What's the issue?

Thanks
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April 08, 2013, 09:26:49 AM
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Still eagerly awaiting that update whereby you can make a deposit and then play with the funds Smiley

None the less, service is great as always. Enjoyed a small betting session today haha
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April 08, 2013, 09:29:28 AM
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It's been many days, I sent .004 BTC to one of the lucky number addresses and never got a response. Using Bitcoin-qt. The transaction is confirmed. What's the issue?

Thanks
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