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December 28, 2016, 11:31:35 PM
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I have "good" news for all of you! Cheesy From satoshidice.com website:

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Satoshidice.com is operating under the gaming licence 1668/JAZ, isssued by the Government of Curaçao.

Unfortunately, 1668/JAZ is a scam license! Sad

Curacao license scam 1668/JAZ, 100 questions from The Hague

Says nothing about scam license, simply that it may be an Illegal gambling site, big deal, cheers to them.
The 1668/JAZ license is a scam, because they do not fulfil Curacao laws. They do not supervise or control anything. They just take the monthly fee of US $ ?.

Victims can send a complaint to complaints@curacao-egaming.com and will likely not receive a response! But it is the obligation of a licensor to take complaints of customer, isn't it?

Gaming sites like satoshidice.com pay for scam licenses like 1668/JAZ to suggest they would be licensed and regulated!

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December 28, 2016, 11:34:50 PM
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I have "good" news for all of you! Cheesy From satoshidice.com website:

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Satoshidice.com is operating under the gaming licence 1668/JAZ, isssued by the Government of Curaçao.

Unfortunately, 1668/JAZ is a scam license! Sad

Curacao license 1668/JAZ scam, 100 questions from The Hague

Says nothing about scam license, simply that it may be an Illegal gambling site, big deal, cheers to them.
The 1668/JAZ license is a scam, because they do not fulfil Curacao laws. They do not supervise or control anything. They just take the monthly fee of US $5,000.

Victims can send a complaint to complaints@curacao-egaming.com and will likely not receive a response! But it is the obligation of a licensor to take complaints of customer, isn't it?

Gaming sites like satoshidice.com pay for scam licenses like 1668/JAZ to suggest they would be licensed and regulated!

Correct, unless its a reputable license then you should just take it with a grain of salt. In general since its gambing and bitcoin related there really aren't that many governing bodies that can license these websites. That's something we just have to live with.

Basically a sites reputation is largely built on the feedback from the Bitcointalk forum and its thread. Just do your due diligence before you send your BTC over and you should be fine.

This website has been having problems for MONTHS and if you've spent 5 minutes reading this thread, many of your withdraw issues wouldn't of been an issue since you would of moved on to another site which has better service.


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December 28, 2016, 11:36:25 PM
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I have "good" news for all of you! Cheesy From satoshidice.com website:

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Satoshidice.com is operating under the gaming licence 1668/JAZ, isssued by the Government of Curaçao.

Unfortunately, 1668/JAZ is a scam license! Sad

Curacao license 1668/JAZ scam, 100 questions from The Hague

Says nothing about scam license, simply that it may be an Illegal gambling site, big deal, cheers to them.
The 1668/JAZ license is a scam, because they do not fulfil Curacao laws. They do not supervise or control anything. They just take the monthly fee of US $5,000.

Victims can send a complaint to complaints@curacao-egaming.com and will likely not receive a response! But it is the obligation of a licensor to take complaints of customer, isn't it?

Gaming sites like satoshidice.com pay for scam licenses like 1668/JAZ to suggest they would be licensed and regulated!

Ok ok i get your point. But as good as it can be to spread awarness on possible problems, calling them a scam isn't really the solution.

Especially in btc casinos. They're not regulated and you can't complain! At least in my country I'm pretty sure that nothing can be done for crimes commited with btc, it's not legally recognized as a currency! So that they're licensed or not doesn't change a thing.

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December 28, 2016, 11:40:06 PM
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I have "good" news for all of you! Cheesy From satoshidice.com website:

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Satoshidice.com is operating under the gaming licence 1668/JAZ, isssued by the Government of Curaçao.

Unfortunately, 1668/JAZ is a scam license! Sad

Curacao license scam 1668/JAZ, 100 questions from The Hague


Who cares about their license? It's not about scam it's about being legal or not.

And it won't be the first illegal but legitimate casino we had...

And talking about legal activities in btc is a bit funny for me ^^
The problem is:

a) If a site has no license, then I know that they are illegal and likely hide their identity and customers usually will be very cautious and send only small amounts

b) If a site has a license, customers usually feel more safe and will send more money, because they think that the site operator is supervised and regulated

Therefore, b) with a scam license is unlike more dangerous for customers like a)


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December 28, 2016, 11:45:53 PM
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I have "good" news for all of you! Cheesy From satoshidice.com website:

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Satoshidice.com is operating under the gaming licence 1668/JAZ, isssued by the Government of Curaçao.

Unfortunately, 1668/JAZ is a scam license! Sad

Curacao license scam 1668/JAZ, 100 questions from The Hague

Says nothing about scam license, simply that it may be an Illegal gambling site, big deal, cheers to them.
The 1668/JAZ license is a scam, because they do not fulfil Curacao laws. They do not supervise or control anything. They just take the monthly fee of US $5,000.

Victims can send a complaint to complaints@curacao-egaming.com and will likely not receive a response! But it is the obligation of a licensor to take complaints of customer, isn't it?

Gaming sites like satoshidice.com pay for scam licenses like 1668/JAZ to suggest they would be licensed and regulated!

Ok ok i get your point. But as good as it can be to spread awarness on possible problems, calling them a scam isn't really the solution.
I did not call satoshidice.com a scam. I informed that their 1668/JAZ license is a scam.


Especially in btc casinos. They're not regulated and you can't complain! At least in my country I'm pretty sure that nothing can be done for crimes commited with btc, it's not legally recognized as a currency! So that they're licensed or not doesn't change a thing.
But satoshidice.com claims to be regulated with stating a license? And you can send a complaint to complaints@curacao-egaming.com , can't you?

Bitcoins have a value and to defraud someone of his valuable Bitcoins is a criminal offense in almost every country in this world and this totally independent of whether Bitcoins are as well considered as a currency or not.

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December 28, 2016, 11:46:59 PM
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I have "good" news for all of you! Cheesy From satoshidice.com website:

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Satoshidice.com is operating under the gaming licence 1668/JAZ, isssued by the Government of Curaçao.

Unfortunately, 1668/JAZ is a scam license! Sad

Curacao license 1668/JAZ scam, 100 questions from The Hague


Who cares about their license? It's not about scam it's about being legal or not.

And it won't be the first illegal but legitimate casino we had...

And talking about legal activities in btc is a bit funny for me ^^
The problem is:

a) If a site has no license, then I know that they are illegal and likely hide their identity and customers usually will be very cautious and send only small amounts

b) If a site has a license , customers usually feel more safe and will send more money, because they think that the site operator is supervised and regulated

Therefore, b) with a scam license is unlike more dangerous for customers like a)



Not so sure about what you're saying and especially in btc casino!
I NEVER checked any license ever.

And I bet I'm not the only one. In fact if people would check license we would have known earlier that this one is not a real one.

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December 28, 2016, 11:55:10 PM
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I have "good" news for all of you! Cheesy From satoshidice.com website:

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Satoshidice.com is operating under the gaming licence 1668/JAZ, isssued by the Government of Curaçao.

Unfortunately, 1668/JAZ is a scam license! Sad

Curacao license scam 1668/JAZ, 100 questions from The Hague


Who cares about their license? It's not about scam it's about being legal or not.

And it won't be the first illegal but legitimate casino we had...

And talking about legal activities in btc is a bit funny for me ^^
The problem is:

a) If a site has no license, then I know that they are illegal and likely hide their identity and customers usually will be very cautious and send only small amounts

b) If a site has a license , customers usually feel more safe and will send more money, because they think that the site operator is supervised and regulated

Therefore, b) with a scam license is unlike more dangerous for customers like a)


Not so sure about what you're saying and especially in btc casino!
All laws are applicable for Bitcoin casinos the same way like they are for fiat money casinos.


I NEVER checked any license ever.

And I bet I'm not the only one. In fact if people would check license we would have known earlier that this one is not a real one.
If no one ever checks licenses, why does satoshidice.com pay for it?

If (according to you) Bitcoin casinos are anyway illegal, why do they pay US $1,000s every month for a license?

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December 29, 2016, 12:01:08 AM
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I have "good" news for all of you! Cheesy From satoshidice.com website:

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Satoshidice.com is operating under the gaming licence 1668/JAZ, isssued by the Government of Curaçao.

Unfortunately, 1668/JAZ is a scam license! Sad

Curacao license 1668/JAZ scam, 100 questions from The Hague


Who cares about their license? It's not about scam it's about being legal or not.

And it won't be the first illegal but legitimate casino we had...

And talking about legal activities in btc is a bit funny for me ^^
The problem is:

a) If a site has no license, then I know that they are illegal and likely hide their identity and customers usually will be very cautious and send only small amounts

b) If a site has a license , customers usually feel more safe and will send more money, because they think that the site operator is supervised and regulated

Therefore, b) with a scam license is unlike more dangerous for customers like a)


Not so sure about what you're saying and especially in btc casino!
All laws are applicable for Bitcoin casinos the same way like they are for fiat money casinos.


I NEVER checked any license ever.

And I bet I'm not the only one. In fact if people would check license we would have known earlier that this one is not a real one.
If no one ever checks licenses, why do satoshidice.com pay US $5,000 per month for a license?

If (according to you) Bitcoin casinos are anyway illegal, why do they pay US $5,000 per month for a license?

Nobody checks licenses because its common sense when anything is "Bitcoin " related then no government regulation or authority will do much to help you in the end anyways.

Most bitcoin gamblers know this. I think those licenses only exist to keep a few noobs happy that their money is safe but for most of the community its common sense that unless your funds are in COLD STORAGE then they are at risk of getting stolen.

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December 29, 2016, 12:12:25 AM
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Nobody checks licenses because its common sense when anything is "Bitcoin " related then no government regulation or authority will do much to help you in the end anyways.
1668/JAZ scam license = curacao-egaming.com checks nothing and this totally independent of whether "Bitcoin" related or not. Therefore, I do not get your "Bitcoin" related point?


Most bitcoin gamblers know this. I think those licenses only exist to keep a few noobs happy that their money is safe but for most of the community its common sense that unless your funds are in COLD STORAGE then they are at risk of getting stolen.
I assume that you can see the contradiction between "Nobody checks licenses..." and "I think those licenses only exist to keep a few noobs happy that their money is safe..."?

If nobody checks licenses, how would anyone know that their money is safe based on a license?

Ahh, as long as my funds are in a foreign, anonymous COLD STORAGE, no one can steal them?

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December 29, 2016, 02:52:00 AM
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Probably should contact support.

How can I do this? I can't see any e-mail or some other way to contact support on the SD site.
When you search it on google you will see this email for support "support@satoshidice.com". good luck i hope you get your coins back.
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December 29, 2016, 06:51:52 AM
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Nobody checks licenses because its common sense when anything is "Bitcoin " related then no government regulation or authority will do much to help you in the end anyways.
1668/JAZ scam license = curacao-egaming.com checks nothing and this totally independent of whether "Bitcoin" related or not. Therefore, I do not get your "Bitcoin" related point?


Most bitcoin gamblers know this. I think those licenses only exist to keep a few noobs happy that their money is safe but for most of the community its common sense that unless your funds are in COLD STORAGE then they are at risk of getting stolen.
I assume that you can see the contradiction between "Nobody checks licenses..." and "I think those licenses only exist to keep a few noobs happy that their money is safe..."?

If nobody checks licenses, how would anyone know that their money is safe based on a license?

Ahh, as long as my funds are in a foreign, anonymous COLD STORAGE, no one can steal them?

Because this gambling site isn't a stock broker like ScottTrade etc which is regulated by a government entity.

Your BTC is never safe when its on any type of bitcoin site.

Cold storage is where you hold the private key and the private key was never on an online computer, yes that's very secure.

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December 29, 2016, 07:24:58 AM
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Having a license does not speak to the legitimacy (or illegitimacy) of any casino. In fact, I would argue that most licensed casino's are more of a "scam" (rip off, usually not full blown scam) than the unlicensed ones. The house edge of licensed sites is usually multiple times that of unlicensed, and they have T&C up the you know what for bonuses and jackpots.

Not to mention most jurisdictions do not even offer online gaming licenses (nor do most recognize the gaming licenses of foreign countries). Malta/Curacao/etc licenses are essentially state sponsored rip offs, their licenses are worthless (actually worse than worthless: most require you ban players from their jurisdiction) and just a way to rake in cash from business operators.
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December 29, 2016, 08:37:18 AM
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Good, so, my btc on this site is lost?

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Good, so, my btc on this site is lost?
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December 29, 2016, 05:12:34 PM
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Good, so, my btc on this site is lost?

Well not just because the licence is illegitimate happily enough xD

Especially considering the fact that it's about btc. Btc isn't exactly the field of legitimacy.

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December 30, 2016, 11:07:22 PM
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Nobody checks licenses because its common sense when anything is "Bitcoin " related then no government regulation or authority will do much to help you in the end anyways.
1668/JAZ scam license = curacao-egaming.com checks nothing and this totally independent of whether "Bitcoin" related or not. Therefore, I do not get your "Bitcoin" related point?


Most bitcoin gamblers know this. I think those licenses only exist to keep a few noobs happy that their money is safe but for most of the community its common sense that unless your funds are in COLD STORAGE then they are at risk of getting stolen.
I assume that you can see the contradiction between "Nobody checks licenses..." and "I think those licenses only exist to keep a few noobs happy that their money is safe..."?

If nobody checks licenses, how would anyone know that their money is safe based on a license?

Ahh, as long as my funds are in a foreign, anonymous COLD STORAGE, no one can steal them?

Because this gambling site isn't a stock broker like ScottTrade etc which is regulated by a government entity.

Your BTC is never safe when its on any type of bitcoin site.

Cold storage is where you hold the private key and the private key was never on an online computer, yes that's very secure.
How could it be very secure for me, if the receiver of my Bitcoins hold the private key and not I?

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December 31, 2016, 06:00:29 AM
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I have 2 accounts, 1 on the bankroll and 1 for gambling. I started just a week back. I just put up 0.002BTC on the bankroll. The sites been showing 504 Gateway Time-out since the past week.
The only reason i preferred it over other gambling sites is because it gives out 200 Satoshi free every second, if your balance is 0. Huh 
yeah i just put in 0.165 1.5 weeks before it began showing those. hopefully at some point ill get my money back.

The site is up again, is your bitcoin safe?
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December 31, 2016, 11:02:31 AM
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I have 2 accounts, 1 on the bankroll and 1 for gambling. I started just a week back. I just put up 0.002BTC on the bankroll. The sites been showing 504 Gateway Time-out since the past week.
The only reason i preferred it over other gambling sites is because it gives out 200 Satoshi free every second, if your balance is 0. Huh  
yeah i just put in 0.165 1.5 weeks before it began showing those. hopefully at some point ill get my money back.

The site is up again, is your bitcoin safe?
The site WAS up for about 2 days and it's been down again for the last 10-12hrs now.

I like playing on Satoshidice slot but all in all i'm really getting annoyed and fear I'm not the only one.
The site is down every few days, lack of support, hot wallet is empty all the time, etc.  Undecided
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December 31, 2016, 11:31:54 AM
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It literally crashed on me today 5 rolls into my confirmed deposit. Still a better experience then my first few hours at fortunejack
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December 31, 2016, 06:09:30 PM
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It literally crashed on me today 5 rolls into my confirmed deposit. Still a better experience then my first few hours at fortunejack

Really don't understand why you would still send a deposit after reading all these negative reviews currently going on with this website.

Yes looks like its having server issues again, same what happened a few days ago. Wonder if the admin will take time off from his busy life to get the server up and running. Most likely no since its New Years and most people are on holiday.

For the above poster asking if his BTC deposit is safe? Yes most likely they will not run off with your money, you just need to wait a few days or weeks until the hot wallet is refilled... and site back up I guess.

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