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Author Topic: SatoshiDICE.com - The World's Most Popular Bitcoin Game  (Read 493220 times)
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January 10, 2017, 01:27:03 PM
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As a headsup, the admin is still "looking into" the case of my account having ~78 btc balance taken from it. The info I have suggests it all happened on their end. Have had extremely minimal communication on the matter, so just want people to be aware that the way this shakes out will be very relevant to ascertaining the integrity of the site.

I'm really sorry to hear stories like these still happening, keep us informed...

Being a developer myself, I could say that the '0000-00-00 00:00:00' on last activity column is something an hacker who would only go through a brute force attack on your password couldn't be able to change using only the frontend interface, apart taking advantage of a vulnerability that only he knows.

So the hypotesis could be:

[1] a faulty user(s) update/migration on the database at some point during the site lifetime by the admin(s) or

[2] a scarier one, that someone being able to access the database did what he wanted and than in order to cover his tracks resetted the timestamp column, but not in all cases the column would have been updated with the last activity in first place, depending on the action/query the malicious person did, eg: a timestamp column get updated automatically in some cases.

[3] a server crash that may have broken your record in the account table, this is quite rare but still may happen, in this case only a previous database backup could prove it.

[4] others that I ignore...

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January 12, 2017, 04:26:53 PM
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I have a big amount of BTC to withdraw but the hot wallet is always empty  Undecided

There's funds in the hotwallet now!
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January 12, 2017, 07:25:50 PM
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Just e-mailed the same to support, but I just logged in after ~3 weeks and my account is missing ~77.4 bitcoins that were invested in the site bankroll. My password also did not work. I reset password, which did work immediately, and upon logging back in the account created date was accurate but the user name was changed and the "last active" shows "0000-00-00 00:00:00"  

Please tell me I didn't get hacked/robbed for this sum of money...
If you make an investment, you should send your investment directly to a Bitcoin address of the company and not to your player account, waiting to forward your Bitcoins or however this work with satoshidice.

As soon as you sent your investment to satoshidice, they are responsible if your investment suddenly escape.  Wink
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January 12, 2017, 07:26:38 PM
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As a headsup, the admin is still "looking into" the case of my account having ~78 btc balance taken from it. The info I have suggests it all happened on their end. Have had extremely minimal communication on the matter, so just want people to be aware that the way this shakes out will be very relevant to ascertaining the integrity of the site.

I'm really sorry to hear stories like these still happening, keep us informed...

Being a developer myself, I could say that the '0000-00-00 00:00:00' on last activity column is something an hacker who would only go through a brute force attack on your password couldn't be able to change using only the frontend interface, apart taking advantage of a vulnerability that only he knows.

So the hypotesis could be:

[1] a faulty user(s) update/migration on the database at some point during the site lifetime by the admin(s) or

[2] a scarier one, that someone being able to access the database did what he wanted and than in order to cover his tracks resetted the timestamp column, but not in all cases the column would have been updated with the last activity in first place, depending on the action/query the malicious person did, eg: a timestamp column get updated automatically in some cases.

[3] a server crash that may have broken your record in the account table, this is quite rare but still may happen, in this case only a previous database backup could prove it.

[4] others that I ignore...

This actually is the last bet timestamp, so pure investors will have it forever say 0000-00-00 00:00:00. I have corrected the profile pages to say "No bets placed" instead.
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January 12, 2017, 07:28:40 PM
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I have a big amount of BTC to withdraw but the hot wallet is always empty  Undecided

There's funds in the hotwallet now!

Dont u have any auto-check enabled to auto-inform u about re-filling the hot wallet?

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January 13, 2017, 12:39:30 AM
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Just e-mailed the same to support, but I just logged in after ~3 weeks and my account is missing ~77.4 bitcoins that were invested in the site bankroll. My password also did not work. I reset password, which did work immediately, and upon logging back in the account created date was accurate but the user name was changed and the "last active" shows "0000-00-00 00:00:00"  

Please tell me I didn't get hacked/robbed for this sum of money...
If you make an investment, you should send your investment directly to a Bitcoin address of the company and not to your player account, waiting to forward your Bitcoins or however this work with satoshidice.

As soon as you sent your investment to satoshidice, they are responsible if your investment suddenly escape.  Wink


And where was this option?

For the record I was purely invested for many months before this happened.

No updates to report, have heard nothing at all.
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January 13, 2017, 08:58:30 AM
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Just e-mailed the same to support, but I just logged in after ~3 weeks and my account is missing ~77.4 bitcoins that were invested in the site bankroll. My password also did not work. I reset password, which did work immediately, and upon logging back in the account created date was accurate but the user name was changed and the "last active" shows "0000-00-00 00:00:00"  

Please tell me I didn't get hacked/robbed for this sum of money...
If you make an investment, you should send your investment directly to a Bitcoin address of the company and not to your player account, waiting to forward your Bitcoins or however this work with satoshidice.

As soon as you sent your investment to satoshidice, they are responsible if your investment suddenly escape.  Wink


Yes that is true however there are no laws which govern that.

Look at what happened with MtGox.

If you send your money over to a bank for your investment, and if the bank gets robbed, YOUR MONEY IS SAFE. Because your money is insured by the government and other insurance companies.

When you send your BTC to a site, and that site gets hacked and loses everything then YOUR MONEY IS GONE. Because there is no insurance or anything.
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January 13, 2017, 11:34:23 AM
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Hi,

The api don't work for me, the web interface yes.

Thank you.

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January 13, 2017, 02:24:41 PM
Last edit: January 13, 2017, 02:42:01 PM by game-protect
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Just e-mailed the same to support, but I just logged in after ~3 weeks and my account is missing ~77.4 bitcoins that were invested in the site bankroll. My password also did not work. I reset password, which did work immediately, and upon logging back in the account created date was accurate but the user name was changed and the "last active" shows "0000-00-00 00:00:00"  

Please tell me I didn't get hacked/robbed for this sum of money...
If you make an investment, you should send your investment directly to a Bitcoin address of the company and not to your player account, waiting to forward your Bitcoins or however this work with satoshidice.

As soon as you sent your investment to satoshidice, they are responsible if your investment suddenly escape.  Wink


And where was this option?

For the record I was purely invested for many months before this happened.

No updates to report, have heard nothing at all.
I assume there is no option and wanted to inform and suggest that you should make larger investments only directly to the operator's account.

Feel free to explain me how this investment typically work? You deposit to your player account and then?

The operator of satoshidice.com is known, so you could initiate legal action. Would be definetely worth, considering the height of your investment.
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January 13, 2017, 02:40:01 PM
Last edit: January 13, 2017, 07:30:00 PM by game-protect
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Just e-mailed the same to support, but I just logged in after ~3 weeks and my account is missing ~77.4 bitcoins that were invested in the site bankroll. My password also did not work. I reset password, which did work immediately, and upon logging back in the account created date was accurate but the user name was changed and the "last active" shows "0000-00-00 00:00:00"  

Please tell me I didn't get hacked/robbed for this sum of money...
If you make an investment, you should send your investment directly to a Bitcoin address of the company and not to your player account, waiting to forward your Bitcoins or however this work with satoshidice.

As soon as you sent your investment to satoshidice, they are responsible if your investment suddenly escape.  Wink


Yes that is true however there are no laws which govern that.

Look at what happened with MtGox.
Of course do the laws of Curacao govern that.

I do not know what happened at MtGox, except million escaped. It does not make any sense to compare jake_a99's case woth MtGox. His investment is only a small part of the overall balances and revenue of satoshidice.com and the operator can very well cover his investment.


If you send your money over to a bank for your investment, and if the bank gets robbed, YOUR MONEY IS SAFE. Because your money is insured by the government and other insurance companies.

When you send your BTC to a site, and that site gets hacked and loses everything then YOUR MONEY IS GONE. Because there is no insurance or anything.
1) satoshidice.com got hacked and lost all balances? Did Rakki N.V. declare bankruptcy?

2) We do not know what happened with jake_a99's account?

3) satoshidice.com has to store all transactions by law, so it should be easy to retrace what happened there

4) Without legal help / action, I doubt that this case will be solved properly, considering the amount and considering what happened so far. This is the advantage when you register your accounts with Game Protect and have an Online Gaming Consumer Protection service included. Wink

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January 14, 2017, 12:58:54 AM
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I am also missing all of my balance on SatoshiDice

I had 47.955 coins when I last updated my balances on Jan 2nd (All of these funds were invested in the house bankroll)

Does anyone have any contact info? Please help

In the mean time, I'd advise everyone not to keep funds on the site
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January 14, 2017, 02:13:14 AM
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Also to follow up:

My password was the same as before and not changed. I was able to log-in fine. (so a bit different than the experience Jake speaks of)


Is there a support email or skype contact for anyone I can talk to? I'd appreciate it if someone could message me any information that might lead to the recovery or whereabouts of my coins
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January 14, 2017, 05:15:27 AM
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Hello,

The API and the web interface is down

Thank You.
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January 14, 2017, 12:42:44 PM
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Hello,

The API and the web interface is down

Thank You.


For me too. Damn what is happening with the site???

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January 14, 2017, 12:58:45 PM
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Hello,

The API and the web interface is down

Thank You.


For me too. Damn what is happening with the site???

Now the WEB interface is working for me but the API still down

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January 14, 2017, 01:25:01 PM
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I highly advise you get your money off this site now....if you even can.

There's now two people who have had large sums stolen (~78 and ~48 bitcoin)
A hack by someone else seems unlikely considering you only need to look through this thread to see that that kind of money is never in their hot wallet.

The two accounts posting about the hack might be new btctalk accounts but I know each of them and can confirm they are telling the truth.

The fact support never replies to anyone, their hot wallet is always empty and they STILL don't have 2fa should put you off playing here.

The site has been sold many times over the years, each time at a loss to a new operator.

I warned everyone about this as soon as they opened the investment option.

It has now been confirmed by Eric Voorhees that he doesn't know the owners of the site.
So long term brand recognition means nothing.

There's still 2000 coins invested here. Get your money off while/if you still can.

This site is very likely a scam!


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January 14, 2017, 01:49:32 PM
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Now the WEB interface is working for me but the API still down

The API works fine from here.

There's now two people who have had large sums stolen (~78 and ~48 bitcoin)

There's two people who claim to have had large sums stolen.
Fine but important difference.
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January 14, 2017, 01:57:48 PM
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Now the WEB interface is working for me but the API still down

The API works fine from here.

There's now two people who have had large sums stolen (~78 and ~48 bitcoin)

There's two people who claim to have had large sums stolen.
Fine but important difference.


I know them and am pretty confident they are telling the truth.
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January 14, 2017, 02:06:50 PM
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Through PROXY the method login is working https://session.satoshidice.com/userapi/login.php

I have not tried the other methods

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January 14, 2017, 04:24:00 PM
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There's now two people who have had large sums stolen (~78 and ~48 bitcoin)

There's two people who claim to have had large sums stolen.
Fine but important difference.

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I may have a new account here, but I definitely have had these funds disappear. I am an active and reputable member of other online forums, former investor in BK (more coins that were paid out with no problems), and long-time BTC hodler

Given the hot-wallet issues at SD, there's no way this wasn't an inside job. I've been unable to withdraw any significant amount in recent months, let alone 47.955 at once.

Still no word which isn't very shocking. Please pull your money off now if you are able

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