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I have a miner at home and a miner in my office (28 miles apart) and both showed a "Share Rate" of 0 for a few minutes on the Workers page. At that same time our Pool rate went from 33.7x to sub 33 and was diving. The dive was starting to look ugly. That's what I was talking about. Anyway I got busy, then I just got back to it and looked to see both miners hashing away at their normal rates. So what causes hashing to drop off like this?
Might have been your connection to the pool? No blips on the graphs at the pool at the time of your post. There was one 'blip' a couple of hours earlier at around 4:50 (PM UTC) - at the NL node - which could have made some users in EU reconnect to the NL node, if that's where your miners are pointed.
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mamiakimo
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October 12, 2016, 09:23:21 PM |
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Kano need a powerfull interface design like BTC.com pool ant it will get more users every day
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HerbPean
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October 12, 2016, 09:27:26 PM |
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Kano need a powerfull interface design like BTC.com pool ant it will get more users every day
Engine > UI imo ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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October 12, 2016, 09:51:55 PM |
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Kano need a powerfull interface design like BTC.com pool ant it will get more users every day
Engine > UI imo ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Ditto.
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To infinity and beyond...on two 741s and one of only 3...nope, make that 4...full nodes in Hawaii...on <30A. (I have other gear on the Hoth ice planet)
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October 12, 2016, 10:20:26 PM |
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Kano need a powerfull interface design like BTC.com pool ant it will get more users every day
Engine > UI imo ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Ditto. Engine > UI = "Nobel Prize" UI > Engine = "Miss/Mr. Universe"
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October 12, 2016, 10:35:18 PM |
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Kano need a powerfull interface design like BTC.com pool ant it will get more users every day
Engine > UI imo ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Ditto. Engine > UI = "Nobel Prize" UI > Engine = "Miss/Mr. Universe" I agree with you guys/gal, but there is something to be said for marketing. My very first boss when I was fresh out of college & working for a computer timesharing company used to say "Sell the sizzle, not the steak". We are all mining here because we know this is the best pool, hands down. But there are lots of folks out there that like a fancy interface & are not as technically adept as you folks. Just wondering how big this pool could get with something like that, but certainly wouldn't want to sacrifice engine efficiency for a pretty face. Mine on! P.S. @Citronic: I like winter Juvia ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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kano (OP)
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October 12, 2016, 10:36:02 PM |
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Regarding the database side of that engine ... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'll be doing a CKDB restart in about 40-45 minutes around 23:15 UTC I want to put all the latest internal changes I've done to CKDB live. No miners will be affected. The web site/api will have lotsa ? for about 10 minutes as usual.
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October 12, 2016, 11:12:27 PM |
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Kano need a powerfull interface design like BTC.com pool ant it will get more users every day
Engine > UI imo ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Ditto. Engine > UI = "Nobel Prize" UI > Engine = "Miss/Mr. Universe" I agree with you guys/gal, but there is something to be said for marketing. My very first boss when I was fresh out of college & working for a computer timesharing company used to say "Sell the sizzle, not the steak". We are all mining here because we know this is the best pool, hands down. But there are lots of folks out there that like a fancy interface & are not as technically adept as you folks. Just wondering how big this pool could get with something like that, but certainly wouldn't want to sacrifice engine efficiency for a pretty face. Mine on! P.S. @Citronic: I like winter Juvia ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) He might help to recruit a few more miners, I agree. (I wasn't saying that to be a d*ck btw)
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kano (OP)
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October 12, 2016, 11:25:58 PM |
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Regarding the database side of that engine ... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'll be doing a CKDB restart in about 40-45 minutes around 23:15 UTC I want to put all the latest internal changes I've done to CKDB live. No miners will be affected. The web site/api will have lotsa ? for about 10 minutes as usual. CKDB restart completed and all OK Was from 23:16:21 to 23:22:08 - a bit under 6mins
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October 13, 2016, 12:30:26 AM |
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FWIW...the kids and I are having mesquite grilled chicken tonight. Here, blocky-blocky... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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To infinity and beyond...on two 741s and one of only 3...nope, make that 4...full nodes in Hawaii...on <30A. (I have other gear on the Hoth ice planet)
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mamiakimo
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October 13, 2016, 02:19:34 AM |
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i am a php & ajax programmer and first time i saw Kano when i still a beginner on bitcoins i closed it after a minute and said ( What is this shit ) after i understood the different between PPLNS & PPS i tested more than 5 pools with Kano then i am here now Kano not a site for the beginner so its difficult to gain more people
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October 13, 2016, 03:02:02 AM |
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i am a php & ajax programmer and first time i saw Kano when i still a beginner on bitcoins i closed it after a minute and said ( What is this shit ) after i understood the different between PPLNS & PPS i tested more than 5 pools with Kano then i am here now Kano not a site for the beginner so its difficult to gain more people
Thus my web site had the desired result. ... and no way on earth would I put ajax or other similar stuff on the web site. What you didn't notice the first time is how fast the web site is and (of course) when you login, the information is accurate unlike other pools. I don't promote that either coz a lot people with small miners don't even understand bitcoin, they just get a miner from bitmain and run it on the bitmain web site. I've also had DDoS attacks on the pool that most people probably didn't even notice that the web site was a little slower. That's by design. My aim is not to convince small miners to come here with animations and hookers. If they choose to, then that's good, if not, that's their loss ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The big changes in the pool's hash rate isn't hundreds of small miners leaving, it's large miners. If they change to another pool due to the run of bad luck, wasting time putting flash animations of people with pick-axes mining coal, or advertisements for hookers at casinos wont change that. Most people don't even see the underlying difference between mining on the Bitmain/F2Pool/Other pools that SPV mine and produce empty blocks, and/or have a slow block change. I'm not McDonalds and don't want to be. I've also stated a number of times, if the pool ever got to 10%, I'd stop it going much higher. I've been involved in bitcoin for years, even when it got down to $2 (though not as long as others before 2011) I'm not here to make a quick dollar and convince people to help me do that ... I'm here for bitcoin long term. I find that coincides with how I run the pool ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 13, 2016, 03:17:02 AM |
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Thanks, Kano. I know this is why most of us are here. ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif)
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To infinity and beyond...on two 741s and one of only 3...nope, make that 4...full nodes in Hawaii...on <30A. (I have other gear on the Hoth ice planet)
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October 13, 2016, 04:51:18 AM |
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Well said Kano. I always appreciate how blunt and to the point you are.
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October 13, 2016, 06:45:22 AM |
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Hey guys, Please bare with me as I am very new to mining. Been following bitcoin and mining for some years now and finally my curiosity has gotten the best of me (I was gifted an S3). I have been following you work Kano and I am totally impressed!!! Ok heres the question. I recently pointed my S3 to your pool and have been hashing away for a few days now. I see that we have hit a few blocks and payments have been sent out yet I don't see any in my wallet or to my address on the blockchain. I am above the dust level (I think ) at this point. Any idea what is going on? Please be gentle ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) User name on CkPool is nycparamedic. Wallet address is : 1Bku6qDzYjX7v7Q9HPvkaWMt2vkZVQvbmE
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October 13, 2016, 07:16:27 AM |
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Hey guys, Please bare with me as I am very new to mining. Been following bitcoin and mining for some years now and finally my curiosity has gotten the best of me (I was gifted an S3). I have been following you work Kano and I am totally impressed!!! Ok heres the question. I recently pointed my S3 to your pool and have been hashing away for a few days now. I see that we have hit a few blocks and payments have been sent out yet I don't see any in my wallet or to my address on the blockchain. I am above the dust level (I think ) at this point. Any idea what is going on? Please be gentle ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) User name on CkPool is nycparamedic. Wallet address is : 1Bku6qDzYjX7v7Q9HPvkaWMt2vkZVQvbmE Check your account, you'll see the first 3 were dust. Our last block was 12 hours ago, so there's 4 payout transactions now queued in our work awaiting us to find another block 433986 434011 434030 434033 The last one 434133, has 32 more blocks until it will have matured.
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October 13, 2016, 07:20:36 AM |
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Hey guys, Please bare with me as I am very new to mining. Been following bitcoin and mining for some years now and finally my curiosity has gotten the best of me (I was gifted an S3). I have been following you work Kano and I am totally impressed!!! Ok heres the question. I recently pointed my S3 to your pool and have been hashing away for a few days now. I see that we have hit a few blocks and payments have been sent out yet I don't see any in my wallet or to my address on the blockchain. I am above the dust level (I think ) at this point. Any idea what is going on? Please be gentle ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) User name on CkPool is nycparamedic. Wallet address is : 1Bku6qDzYjX7v7Q9HPvkaWMt2vkZVQvbmE Check your account, you'll see the first 3 were dust. Our last block was 12 hours ago, so there's 4 payout transactions now queued in our work awaiting us to find another block 433986 434011 434030 434033 The last one 434133, has 32 more blocks until it will have matured. So payouts don't happen until a certain number of blocks are found? I see the payout page, and the 1st 3 are dust. Then at the top I read that the below transactions are not sent out yet. That is where my confusion lies, I think. Yep got it now... Thank you for going easy on this total noob!!!!
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October 13, 2016, 07:24:17 AM |
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Payouts are sent out, the issue is I use free transactions so no one has to pay for them.
Thus only our work actually has the payout transactions in them, no one else will confirm our free transactions, thus they wont confirm until we find a block after I create the free transactions, which is just after the blocks mature. The payout transactions are in the work the pool sends to all miners.
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October 13, 2016, 07:38:59 AM |
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Payouts are sent out, the issue is I use free transactions so no one has to pay for them.
Thus only our work actually has the payout transactions in them, no one else will confirm our free transactions, thus they wont confirm until we find a block after I create the free transactions, which is just after the blocks mature. The payout transactions are in the work the pool sends to all miners.
Maybe I don't get it then. So shouldn't I see the last few payouts from the payouts page in my wallet? I think I may be more confused now then when I started.... I have a bit more reading to do. I can understand all types of advanced systems and what not, but this how bitcoin mining works really stumps me.... I hope i am not being too much of a pain in the ass, I just really want to learn. Something about minting my own money really grabbed me. Even though there is no way I am making bank on this its the doing it part....
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October 13, 2016, 07:39:29 AM |
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Payouts are sent out, the issue is I use free transactions so no one has to pay for them.
Thus only our work actually has the payout transactions in them, no one else will confirm our free transactions, thus they wont confirm until we find a block after I create the free transactions, which is just after the blocks mature. The payout transactions are in the work the pool sends to all miners.
@ROB5482 -- this feature kano described above is not only efficient and clean for miners but for the blockchain. I have not seen any other pool that does this voluntarily. Most of importantly, this pool has active and transparent administration from Kano and CK -- I have learnt more on Bitcoin and blockchain here than any of my earlier pools.
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