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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2437 blocks  (Read 5350896 times)
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November 07, 2016, 08:48:35 PM
Last edit: November 07, 2016, 09:11:55 PM by firetreeactual
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Well...I just finished running numbers using my own historical production figures, actual costs, etc. I don't use any online calculators, BTW...I rely on my own math and the personal confuser. I come out with an ROI of about six months on free power (which I have at home), and about seven months at Labrador. When we were hearing speculations of "10-12TH on 1800W" it translates to exactly what we have, except divided into much more manageable units. The ROI would be the same.

Anyway...when you consider that this unit promises to be magnitudes better in build quality and maintenance considerations, I don't think it's disappointing at all. No, I'm not a large farm. Consider how many more people out there could afford to mine, though, as individuals...and it is the individual who will make Bitcoin perpetual. I have, however, run large data centers in my years...I wouldn't mind a few racks of these at all.

I'll take any further discussion to the other thread, I guess. Back to "work."  Cool

EDIT: ...and, notice...that 900W is distributed through eight PCIe connectors...not four...so the load per connect is ~113W. Smart.

EDIT2: ...and I've been using my own numbers for the past couple of years...they have never been wrong. Could be a first time, of course...  Kiss

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November 07, 2016, 11:07:58 PM
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Well...I just finished running numbers using my own historical production figures, actual costs, etc. I don't use any online calculators, BTW...I rely on my own math and the personal confuser. I come out with an ROI of about six months on free power (which I have at home), and about seven months at Labrador. When we were hearing speculations of "10-12TH on 1800W" it translates to exactly what we have, except divided into much more manageable units. The ROI would be the same.

Anyway...when you consider that this unit promises to be magnitudes better in build quality and maintenance considerations, I don't think it's disappointing at all. No, I'm not a large farm. Consider how many more people out there could afford to mine, though, as individuals...and it is the individual who will make Bitcoin perpetual. I have, however, run large data centers in my years...I wouldn't mind a few racks of these at all.

I'll take any further discussion to the other thread, I guess. Back to "work."  Cool

EDIT: ...and, notice...that 900W is distributed through eight PCIe connectors...not four...so the load per connect is ~113W. Smart.

EDIT2: ...and I've been using my own numbers for the past couple of years...they have never been wrong. Could be a first time, of course...  Kiss

I didn't include any resell value in my calculation.
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November 07, 2016, 11:58:59 PM
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I didn't include any resell value in my calculation.

I never do. Once they're ROI, they're basically off my books in that respect. I've paid forward four S3s w/psu's to folks here to get started; my old S2 still is here, but it may go forward as well. I've never resold a machine.

I guess my point is that, for me at least, my prime concern is that (1) the machine gets paid back on its own merit, plus (2) after that ROI, it produces reliably and consistently, all other factors being "equal."

It doesn't take an engineer to look at the insides of an S7 (I never bought an S9), and the insides of an A6 (on my bench), to see the difference in quality between the two. I may have only "X" number of years of mining left, but I'd prefer to expend my anxiety energy on something other than wondering if my machines are going to last.

 Cool

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November 08, 2016, 12:00:22 AM
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@ Phillip if you do another group buy let me know.
I need too pick up a couple.
every little bit helps when it comes to ROI.
sorry for the OT Kano; but it all comes back to the pool.
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November 08, 2016, 12:13:01 AM
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Block!

Really liking the extra hash coming in from multiple sources!  Grin

I'm in the US and we just did the stupid "Daylight-saving time". So it's only 7:15 pm here now and the new mining day used to begin at 8:00pm. But according to the block time/date, we have moved into a new day already. I understand the rest of the world not observing DLST. Just an observation.

Okay, let's get 3-4 blocks today!! Very doable!  Cheesy Cheesy

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November 08, 2016, 12:14:20 AM
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Now we can get back to what matters most in this thread:

Block!  Grin and it is under 100!

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November 08, 2016, 12:21:53 AM
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Well...I just finished running numbers using my own historical production figures, actual costs, etc. I don't use any online calculators, BTW...I rely on my own math and the personal confuser. I come out with an ROI of about six months on free power (which I have at home), and about seven months at Labrador. When we were hearing speculations of "10-12TH on 1800W" it translates to exactly what we have, except divided into much more manageable units. The ROI would be the same.

What difficulty increase did you use do come up with a six month ROI?

Kano, please slap me if this is too OT.

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November 08, 2016, 12:42:33 AM
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Completely off topic but if a MOQ of ten is set I will do a group buy.

I will be glad to point some Canaan at the pool.

It would be nice if these were under volt and down clock.  I would love to run at 4th and 500 watts in my friends office.

Back to the pool I still have two s9s pointed here.  And hope to add three Avalon 7s. That will boost me to
42th.

We could run six avalons at the array pointed here.  That would get me to 60 th.

Time will tell.

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November 08, 2016, 01:11:34 AM
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did someone failover with that 6 PHs

Please tip the Node 1MPWKB23NsZsXHANnFwVAWT86mL24fqAjF; KO4UX
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November 08, 2016, 01:13:46 AM
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did someone failover with that 6 PHs

Just saw that. Nice and interesting. Hope they stick around!

EDIT: Although it lowers my block %, I'll take it. Smiley

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November 08, 2016, 01:14:41 AM
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Yup...things are getting "interesting-er and interesting-er..."

 Roll Eyes

To infinity and beyond...on two 741s and one of only 3...nope, make that 4...full nodes in Hawaii...on <30A. (I have other gear on the Hoth ice planet)
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November 08, 2016, 01:21:55 AM
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How do you control all of your hashing power?  As I am turning up my S9's 1 by 1 I am watching guys with monster hashing power bounce in and out of the pool.  They have to have some kind of program that is doing that for them.  Does anyone have any idea what can control multiple and by multiple I mean hundreds of miners at once?

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November 08, 2016, 01:24:12 AM
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How do you control all of your hashing power?  As I am turning up my S9's 1 by 1 I am watching guys with monster hashing power bounce in and out of the pool.  They have to have some kind of program that is doing that for them.  Does anyone have any idea what can control multiple and by multiple I mean hundreds of miners at once?



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November 08, 2016, 01:25:41 AM
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How do you control all of your hashing power?  As I am turning up my S9's 1 by 1 I am watching guys with monster hashing power bounce in and out of the pool.  They have to have some kind of program that is doing that for them.  Does anyone have any idea what can control multiple and by multiple I mean hundreds of miners at once?

I believe Awesome Miner can control hundreds. It is, of course, pay for service. I have the Professional version and only use it for 4 S9's. But it is pretty cool.

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November 08, 2016, 01:37:55 AM
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Grin Grin Avalon 721 on sale Mon. 14th $888 usd 6Th 900 watts.
About TIME.

Not good on a hash/power ratio though.

I can't find news about Avalon 721, please you may post more Info.

Thanks.
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November 08, 2016, 01:41:26 AM
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It was linked on the last page, but here it is:
https://canaan.io/2016/11/07/the-avalonminer-721-is-roq-solid/

Here is a link to the A7 thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1502116.0

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November 08, 2016, 05:41:55 AM
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Block!  by jmww Smiley
2 Blocks! by jmww Cheesy

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November 08, 2016, 05:48:24 AM
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I love it when a plan comes together...

To infinity and beyond...on two 741s and one of only 3...nope, make that 4...full nodes in Hawaii...on <30A. (I have other gear on the Hoth ice planet)
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November 08, 2016, 11:56:44 AM
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Good start to the day with 3 Block already!!!
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November 08, 2016, 12:03:45 PM
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Good start to the day with 3 Block already!!!

Yep. With any luck, we should make this a nice 4-5 block day and start catching back up to our "Expected"!  Grin Grin
Pour on the hash boys and girls!!!

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