[ANN][CRW] CROWN (SHA256) | NEW UPDATE! | Experimental Commodity | Trons |

[IconFirm]

Second part of this is... how is it stealing if we are giving it away to the community in bounties...

Sorry, but that's a pathetic excuse.

If your bank manager took 40% of your account balance & said the same thing - would that make it OK with you? Of course not.

Stop trying to make excuses for your mistakes, if it was a mistake, which I'm not sure it was anymore.

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[CHAOSiTEC]

Second part of this is... how is it stealing if we are giving it away to the community in bounties...

Sorry, but that's a pathetic excuse.

If your bank manager took 40% of your account balance & said the same thing - would that make it OK with you? Of course not.

Stop trying to make excuses for your mistakes, if it was a mistake, which I'm not sure it was anymore.

Let me put this as clearly as I possibly can... all actions can be followed on the blockchain including where funds go.. and we will create an account for bounties it cannot get more transparent than this.. you can follow the path of all coins...

But let me put all this in perspective my throne has generated 60 crw over the last 24 hours... current value if being bought at highest bid is 0.00021 so... give me your pools address and I will send that to you...

And again your not addressing all my points.. you do seem very inclined to want to pick a fight...

[stonehedge]

Second part of this is... how is it stealing if we are giving it away to the community in bounties...

Sorry, but that's a pathetic excuse.

If your bank manager took 40% of your account balance & said the same thing - would that make it OK with you? Of course not.

Stop trying to make excuses for your mistakes, if it was a mistake, which I'm not sure it was anymore.

I personally don't intend to make excuses. 

We are we we are.  The best I can do right now is to take steps to stop anybody updating without knowledge of throne payments and offer a refund to any miners who feel they were misinformed.

At the moment, I believe that the majority if not all groups using the new version were aware.  I don't think it is right or fair to accuse of us of deliberately stealing. 

Updates will follow today.

[stonehedge]

​Crowncoin Project Update 05/07/2016

​What are Thrones?

Thrones are paying nodes on the Crowncoin network.  Throne operators will earn 40% of the Crowncoin block reward in return for providing services via their Thrones.


​How do I get a Throne?

In order to operate a Throne 10,000CRW collateral is required.  Thrones along with guides on how to set one up will be released in the coming days.

If you can't wait, you're welcome to compile and set up a Throne from source if you know what you are doing.


​How much do they pay?​ 

A forecast for Throne finances can be found here.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x4KjbxtqGPKghajJb3scJBL6ED3B_CCBbYES6N6CR28/edit#gid=0

Throne payments are currently underway.  Every time a miner who has updated to the latest version solves a block, 40% of the block reward will be paid to a Throne.  Enforcement will not be turned on until the majority of the network is on the latest version.  Please update using the latest Github build.  Windows binaries will follow shortly.


​What will thrones do?​

Thrones, apart from strengthening the Crowncoin network, will form the basis of a two tier service network.  An exciting announcement about the first planned service for the Throne network will be made in the coming weeks.  The Crowncoin team believes that the first planned service will propel Crowncoin to the forefront of altcoin R&D.


​New Team Members

Stonehedge has joined the team to help with project management and PR. Chaositec has joined the team as part of the Development Team and will be working on improving the quality and timeliness of wallet builds and will also be setting up some useful applications relating to Thrones.


What next?

A roadmap detailing the next steps will be published on 6th July 2016.

[IconFirm]

I personally don't intend to make excuses. 

We are we we are.  The best I can do right now is to take steps to stop anybody updating without knowledge of throne payments and offer a refund to any miners who feel they were misinformed.

At the moment, I believe that the majority if not all groups using the new version were aware.  I don't think it is right or fair to accuse of us of deliberately stealing. 

Updates will follow today.

@stonehedge,

Thank you for looking at the problems from a miner/pool ops perspective & finally addressing my/their concerns.

Yes, stealing is a strong word & one I don't like to use any more than you like to hear it - but it is what it is. When something is taken from someone else without their knowledge or consent, it is stealing - weather intentional or not, the word is the same. I think it is also worth mentioning that the amounts taken are not so much the issue, it is the percentage - 40%, which is a large amount, that was the bigger issue.

The rollout of thrones has been pretty shambolic from beginning to this point in time tbh, but I am happy that someone on the crowncoin team has finally decided to address the issues instead of trying to make excuses or posting abusive comments - & for that I commend you. Hopefully others on your team will follow suit.

I look forward to seeing the thread OP, the website & gitrepo updated with clear information about the state of play regarding thrones so that everyone who wishes to get involved will fully understand what software to use & how to use it. When this has been done & I see that any coins requested to be returned are done so, I will consider pointing my hash back at CRW & supporting the network again.

[crowncoin_knight]

Welcome guys!

​Crowncoin Project Update 05/07/2016

​What are Thrones?

Thrones are paying nodes on the Crowncoin network.  Throne operators will earn 40% of the Crowncoin block reward in return for providing services via their Thrones.


​How do I get a Throne?

In order to operate a Throne 10,000CRW collateral is required.  Thrones along with guides on how to set one up will be released in the coming days.

If you can't wait, you're welcome to compile and set up a Throne from source if you know what you are doing.


​How much do they pay?​ 

A forecast for Throne finances can be found here.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x4KjbxtqGPKghajJb3scJBL6ED3B_CCBbYES6N6CR28/edit#gid=0

Throne payments are currently underway.  Every time a miner who has updated to the latest version solves a block, 40% of the block reward will be paid to a Throne.  Enforcement will not be turned on until the majority of the network is on the latest version.  Please update using the latest Github build.  Windows binaries will follow shortly.


​What will thrones do?​

Thrones, apart from strengthening the Crowncoin network, will form the basis of a two tier service network.  An exciting announcement about the first planned service for the Throne network will be made in the coming weeks.  The Crowncoin team believes that the first planned service will propel Crowncoin to the forefront of altcoin R&D.


​New Team Members

Stonehedge has joined the team to help with project management and PR. Chaositec has joined the team as part of the Development Team and will be working on improving the quality and timeliness of wallet builds and will also be setting up some useful applications relating to Thrones.


What next?

A roadmap detailing the next steps will be published on 6th July 2016.

[stonehedge]

I personally don't intend to make excuses. 

We are we we are.  The best I can do right now is to take steps to stop anybody updating without knowledge of throne payments and offer a refund to any miners who feel they were misinformed.

At the moment, I believe that the majority if not all groups using the new version were aware.  I don't think it is right or fair to accuse of us of deliberately stealing. 

Updates will follow today.

@stonehedge,

Thank you for looking at the problems from a miner/pool ops perspective & finally addressing my/their concerns.

Yes, stealing is a strong word & one I don't like to use any more than you like to hear it - but it is what it is. When something is taken from someone else without their knowledge or consent, it is stealing - weather intentional or not, the word is the same. I think it is also worth mentioning that the amounts taken are not so much the issue, it is the percentage - 40%, which is a large amount, that was the bigger issue.

The rollout of thrones has been pretty shambolic from beginning to this point in time tbh, but I am happy that someone on the crowncoin team has finally decided to address the issues instead of trying to make excuses or posting abusive comments - & for that I commend you. Hopefully others on your team will follow suit.

I look forward to seeing the thread OP, the website & gitrepo updated with clear information about the state of play regarding thrones so that everyone who wishes to get involved will fully understand what software to use & how to use it. When this has been done & I see that any coins requested to be returned are done so, I will consider pointing my hash back at CRW & supporting the network again.

One of the problems we have at the moment is that we have several devs who work part time on the project and indeed many of us have day jobs that have lead to things not being as organised as they should be.

It is my responsibility to ensure that this improves.

[CHAOSiTEC]

I personally don't intend to make excuses. 

We are we we are.  The best I can do right now is to take steps to stop anybody updating without knowledge of throne payments and offer a refund to any miners who feel they were misinformed.

At the moment, I believe that the majority if not all groups using the new version were aware.  I don't think it is right or fair to accuse of us of deliberately stealing. 

Updates will follow today.

@stonehedge,

Thank you for looking at the problems from a miner/pool ops perspective & finally addressing my/their concerns.

Yes, stealing is a strong word & one I don't like to use any more than you like to hear it - but it is what it is. When something is taken from someone else without their knowledge or consent, it is stealing - weather intentional or not, the word is the same. I think it is also worth mentioning that the amounts taken are not so much the issue, it is the percentage - 40%, which is a large amount, that was the bigger issue.

The rollout of thrones has been pretty shambolic from beginning to this point in time tbh, but I am happy that someone on the crowncoin team has finally decided to address the issues instead of trying to make excuses or posting abusive comments - & for that I commend you. Hopefully others on your team will follow suit.

I look forward to seeing the thread OP, the website & gitrepo updated with clear information about the state of play regarding thrones so that everyone who wishes to get involved will fully understand what software to use & how to use it. When this has been done & I see that any coins requested to be returned are done so, I will consider pointing my hash back at CRW & supporting the network again.

One of the problems we have at the moment is that we have several devs who work part time on the project and indeed many of us have day jobs that have lead to things not being as organised as they should be.

It is my responsibility to ensure that this improves.

Nd that is why I'm working on getting a build server running

[stonehedge]

I personally don't intend to make excuses. 

We are we we are.  The best I can do right now is to take steps to stop anybody updating without knowledge of throne payments and offer a refund to any miners who feel they were misinformed.

At the moment, I believe that the majority if not all groups using the new version were aware.  I don't think it is right or fair to accuse of us of deliberately stealing. 

Updates will follow today.

@stonehedge,

Thank you for looking at the problems from a miner/pool ops perspective & finally addressing my/their concerns.

Yes, stealing is a strong word & one I don't like to use any more than you like to hear it - but it is what it is. When something is taken from someone else without their knowledge or consent, it is stealing - weather intentional or not, the word is the same. I think it is also worth mentioning that the amounts taken are not so much the issue, it is the percentage - 40%, which is a large amount, that was the bigger issue.

The rollout of thrones has been pretty shambolic from beginning to this point in time tbh, but I am happy that someone on the crowncoin team has finally decided to address the issues instead of trying to make excuses or posting abusive comments - & for that I commend you. Hopefully others on your team will follow suit.

I look forward to seeing the thread OP, the website & gitrepo updated with clear information about the state of play regarding thrones so that everyone who wishes to get involved will fully understand what software to use & how to use it. When this has been done & I see that any coins requested to be returned are done so, I will consider pointing my hash back at CRW & supporting the network again.

One of the problems we have at the moment is that we have several devs who work part time on the project and indeed many of us have day jobs that have lead to things not being as organised as they should be.

It is my responsibility to ensure that this improves.

Nd that is why I'm working on getting a build server running

Do that and you'll be a popular man. Having trouble finding a dev with a working windows build environment!

[defunctec]

I personally don't intend to make excuses. 

We are we we are.  The best I can do right now is to take steps to stop anybody updating without knowledge of throne payments and offer a refund to any miners who feel they were misinformed.

At the moment, I believe that the majority if not all groups using the new version were aware.  I don't think it is right or fair to accuse of us of deliberately stealing. 

Updates will follow today.

@stonehedge,

Thank you for looking at the problems from a miner/pool ops perspective & finally addressing my/their concerns.

Yes, stealing is a strong word & one I don't like to use any more than you like to hear it - but it is what it is. When something is taken from someone else without their knowledge or consent, it is stealing - weather intentional or not, the word is the same. I think it is also worth mentioning that the amounts taken are not so much the issue, it is the percentage - 40%, which is a large amount, that was the bigger issue.

The rollout of thrones has been pretty shambolic from beginning to this point in time tbh, but I am happy that someone on the crowncoin team has finally decided to address the issues instead of trying to make excuses or posting abusive comments - & for that I commend you. Hopefully others on your team will follow suit.

I look forward to seeing the thread OP, the website & gitrepo updated with clear information about the state of play regarding thrones so that everyone who wishes to get involved will fully understand what software to use & how to use it. When this has been done & I see that any coins requested to be returned are done so, I will consider pointing my hash back at CRW & supporting the network again.

Crowncoin has a $10k marketcap, used to be $2k!
What do you expect, seriously?
There's no premine, no ICO, no bullshit.
We have been 100% open about everything that's going on and the reasons for it (I can cite)

We have 0 dev funds, Our old dev left... And look at us now!

We now have a part time caretaker dev that's very experienced. We have the code for a paid full node network. New members to the team that bring a hell of alot of experience and connections, and your moaning about not having a guide ready, and 40% of coins going to Thrones? Miners can choose to not mine Crowncoin, or stick with the old code, you know?

New miners that are unaware of current development are here for profit. I don't care about those guy's, they will return once crowncoin becomes profitable again, simple as that. They wont feel ROBBED like you suggest lol and we certainly aren't stealing anything! You can set a Throne up right now! Or do you want me to come to your PC and do it for you? Even then i'd mess it up.

Why don't you do a guide on how you set a Throne up? Or shall I give Evan Duffield a call and get him to personally tell you how to set a Throne up? Coz ya no a no him an ezz part of devvy team.

We're barebone here, 3-15k marketcap, no full time dev...

What your asking for is a fully functional dev team with PR skills, github skills, linux skills, C++ skills, HTML skills, contacts, money, time. If we had all of this crowncoin wouldn't be worth 3-15k!

WE DONT HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS AND HAVE NEVER SAID WE HAVE. (Although with time we are building a great team here and we soon will have all these great skills come together)

Get a grip on what we are capable of.

[IconFirm]

Whatever 

[stonehedge]

I personally don't intend to make excuses. 

We are we we are.  The best I can do right now is to take steps to stop anybody updating without knowledge of throne payments and offer a refund to any miners who feel they were misinformed.

At the moment, I believe that the majority if not all groups using the new version were aware.  I don't think it is right or fair to accuse of us of deliberately stealing. 

Updates will follow today.

@stonehedge,

Thank you for looking at the problems from a miner/pool ops perspective & finally addressing my/their concerns.

Yes, stealing is a strong word & one I don't like to use any more than you like to hear it - but it is what it is. When something is taken from someone else without their knowledge or consent, it is stealing - weather intentional or not, the word is the same. I think it is also worth mentioning that the amounts taken are not so much the issue, it is the percentage - 40%, which is a large amount, that was the bigger issue.

The rollout of thrones has been pretty shambolic from beginning to this point in time tbh, but I am happy that someone on the crowncoin team has finally decided to address the issues instead of trying to make excuses or posting abusive comments - & for that I commend you. Hopefully others on your team will follow suit.

I look forward to seeing the thread OP, the website & gitrepo updated with clear information about the state of play regarding thrones so that everyone who wishes to get involved will fully understand what software to use & how to use it. When this has been done & I see that any coins requested to be returned are done so, I will consider pointing my hash back at CRW & supporting the network again.

Crowncoin has a $10k marketcap, used to be $2k!
What do you expect, seriously?
There's no premine, no ICO, no bullshit.
We have been 100% open about everything that's going on and the reasons for it (I can cite)

We have 0 dev funds, Our old dev left... And look at us now!

We now have a part time caretaker dev that's very experienced. We have the code for a paid full node network. New members to the team that bring a hell of alot of experience and connections, and your moaning about not having a guide ready, and 40% of coins going to Thrones? Miners can choose to not mine Crowncoin, or stick with the old code, you know?

New miners that are unaware of current development are here for profit. I don't care about those guy's, they will return once crowncoin becomes profitable again, simple as that. They wont feel ROBBED like you suggest lol and we certainly aren't stealing anything! You can set a Throne up right now! Or do you want me to come to your PC and do it for you? Even then i'd mess it up.

Why don't you do a guide on how you set a Throne up? Or shall I give Evan Duffield a call and get him to personally tell you how to set a Throne up? Coz ya no a no him an ezz part of devvy team.

We're barebone here, 3-15k marketcap, no full time dev...

What your asking for is a fully functional dev team with PR skills, github skills, linux skills, C++ skills, HTML skills, contacts, money, time. If we had all of this crowncoin wouldn't be worth 3-15k!

WE DONT HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS AND HAVE NEVER SAID WE HAVE. (Although with time we are building a great team here and we soon will have all these great skills come together)

Get a grip on what we are capable of.

I'm frustrated that we have made some mistakes.  On balance, its good to find out issues from other people's perspective. 

At best, we're learning from mistakes. At worst, we're getting free bumps.

[stonehedge]

This is the roadmap as it currently stands.  I'm looking forward to demonstrating the awesomeness of our plans.

[CHAOSiTEC]

latest changes to git.

This git supports thrones

git clone https://github.com/Crowndev/crowncoin.git -branch Current-dev


Master has been reversed to crowncoin 1.0 with no thrones supported..



Still working on compiling wallet for windows... updates as soon as i can compile it

i will create a branch on Crowndev/crowncoin called Current-dev  branch <-- All development will go there, and only be pushed to master what is supposed to be current running version, so people can check out the latest via Current-dev and everyone else just needs to use master when ive set everything up today.

[e1ghtSpace]

Is it possible to compile the wallet for Windows using gitian?

[CHAOSiTEC]

Is it possible to compile the wallet for Windows using gitian?

i have tried with gitian, with windows and with cross compile via linux, so far im closest to get it working via crosscompile, and also found several errors that made it uncompileable, ill be setting up gitian when i get home, which is mid next week, and getting that to work is the goal, so we can have the wallets automatically compiled everytime changes happens to master.

but while im on the boat ill keep on working with the cross compile... right now its just tweaking the process to get everything to play.. sadly i only have little time each day to do so, therefor progress is slow... i know someone else is also working on it, so that we can get a qt wallet out as fast as possible...

[defunctec]

Draft

Thrones setup guide

Use at own risk

Google Docs

Please contribute by making suggestions thanks!

[crowncoin_knight]

Thank you very much! Great job

Draft

Thrones setup guide

Use at own risk

Google Docs

Please contribute by making suggestions thanks!

[defunctec]

I just noticed that the thread title has changed

[ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin | THRONES | Mergemined | Time Stamp | Address names

I see a nice new addition to the list of features ! Wont be long now 

[CHAOSiTEC]

fix for mergemining with other coins found, i will update the source later today