CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded GPU kernels.

[bobben2]

AMD dropped the price of the Nano to $500 a few weeks ago.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20600566293

Let's do a profit calculation..

The nano can do 20MHASH of x11

0.020GHASH * 0.15 (Nicehash payment for 1 GHASH) = 0,003 BTC /DAY

500$ = 1,32BTC

1.32/0.003 = 440

It will take the Nano 440 days TO ROI with FREE POWER. And in these 440 days we have pascal and the 14NM chips comming..

So it seems like the Nano is a better buy that the GTX 980 then...
Even if the 980 could do 20 MH of X11.

[djm34]

[...] WHO on the forums actually does release their miner with conditions and prices that are clearly disclosed in advance? [...]

I did, not so long ago. Works out pretty well as far as I can tell, but would likely get very messy if said miner was being sold to a large number of people. I don't know of any other examples, but I'd imagine other people have done the same.

Side note 1: Being public about the terms of the deal, and changing them after-the-fact, is utter bullshit. I'd say that's much worse than not being public about the terms but sticking to them no matter what.

Side note 2: I understand people are around here with a miner's mindset, and ROI is king. But, if you folks care for the potential of cryptocurrencies at all, maybe someday, try to pick some altcoin that you like, mine it even at a loss, grow a bag, help that community, participate, develop some service, some utility. Much more fun, and oddly enough, big profits on occasion...

I agree...  ROI is king... It's hard to open your wallet for donations when there are cobwebs at the bottom (I'm currently negative last month because of Cryptsy)... Right now a 970 makes about $1.20 mining Eth without taking out cost for power.

but then you understand, we may be reluctant to release new miners in these conditions...
I mean you can't really expect us to release for free because the conditions are bad (because it would just be bad for us as well...) hence what is expected is that we find a middle ground or a compromise which would make happy everyone. 
 
and in that case dev fee isn't either a good solution, because miners won't wait for us before dumping on a coin... (and there are a lot more miners than devs)

Not sure what you mean about a dev fee... A % based miner will be constantly mining whatever you have at your proxy setup for X algorithm. 98 shares for the miner, 2 shares for the dev.

Maybe we've always been on a different page when it comes to a miner fee? You have a miner submit 98 shares for whatever pool they're connected to and then two shares to whatever pool you want for the algorithm it's operating on. That would be a 2% fee, relatively speaking.

Or you could do it based on time... 72secs every hour.

Also not entirely certain what you mean by 'bad conditions for developers'. If you say sold your Neoscrypt miner for .1 a pop three months ago things would be quite a bit different or even right now. Kernel developers basically help set the conditions for miners. I can look at SPs miner right now and go 'hey it's not going to ROI, but I have a option of a 5% faster miner in the future for .1'. And of course SP will be improving it so it turns into a better option into the future. So something like x11 will be about 5% faster. Still not profitable, but could be.

Honestly though a % based miner is just the best solution. It rewards developers for making faster kernels constantly and gives miners big and small a chance to compete. You keep updating your miner and the amount of money you make keeps growing too. It's win-win

the problem with the dev fee, is that it collects an altcoin, and technically there are a lot more chance that people dump the coin before a dev has any chance to do it, making it a rather bad deal for the dev.

[Slava_K]

[...] WHO on the forums actually does release their miner with conditions and prices that are clearly disclosed in advance? [...]

I did, not so long ago. Works out pretty well as far as I can tell, but would likely get very messy if said miner was being sold to a large number of people. I don't know of any other examples, but I'd imagine other people have done the same.

Side note 1: Being public about the terms of the deal, and changing them after-the-fact, is utter bullshit. I'd say that's much worse than not being public about the terms but sticking to them no matter what.

Side note 2: I understand people are around here with a miner's mindset, and ROI is king. But, if you folks care for the potential of cryptocurrencies at all, maybe someday, try to pick some altcoin that you like, mine it even at a loss, grow a bag, help that community, participate, develop some service, some utility. Much more fun, and oddly enough, big profits on occasion...

I agree...  ROI is king... It's hard to open your wallet for donations when there are cobwebs at the bottom (I'm currently negative last month because of Cryptsy)... Right now a 970 makes about $1.20 mining Eth without taking out cost for power.

but then you understand, we may be reluctant to release new miners in these conditions...
I mean you can't really expect us to release for free because the conditions are bad (because it would just be bad for us as well...) hence what is expected is that we find a middle ground or a compromise which would make happy everyone. 
 
and in that case dev fee isn't either a good solution, because miners won't wait for us before dumping on a coin... (and there are a lot more miners than devs)

Not sure what you mean about a dev fee... A % based miner will be constantly mining whatever you have at your proxy setup for X algorithm. 98 shares for the miner, 2 shares for the dev.

Maybe we've always been on a different page when it comes to a miner fee? You have a miner submit 98 shares for whatever pool they're connected to and then two shares to whatever pool you want for the algorithm it's operating on. That would be a 2% fee, relatively speaking.

Or you could do it based on time... 72secs every hour.

Also not entirely certain what you mean by 'bad conditions for developers'. If you say sold your Neoscrypt miner for .1 a pop three months ago things would be quite a bit different or even right now. Kernel developers basically help set the conditions for miners. I can look at SPs miner right now and go 'hey it's not going to ROI, but I have a option of a 5% faster miner in the future for .1'. And of course SP will be improving it so it turns into a better option into the future. So something like x11 will be about 5% faster. Still not profitable, but could be.

Honestly though a % based miner is just the best solution. It rewards developers for making faster kernels constantly and gives miners big and small a chance to compete. You keep updating your miner and the amount of money you make keeps growing too. It's win-win

the problem with the dev fee, is that it collects an altcoin, and technically there are a lot more chance that people dump the coin before a dev has any chance to do it, making it a rather bad deal for the dev.

2 shares from 100 use to point on nicehash... ☺

[sambiohazard]

@all devs

decred devs only have a cgminer for both AMD & nvidia, please contact them to talk about bounty for ccminer fork for decred. They said it has a different "block header" so some changes will be needed. Here is a post on their forums

https://forum.decred.org/threads/protocol-specification.33/#post-1367

The kernel may work, but I ended up just writing my own. They don't have our block header specifications, so that miner will not work. It may give you a reasonable estimation of hash rate for the chain.

[sambiohazard]

@Slava_K +1, heck i will even run with more % at times of new releases if there is a switch for that.

[chrysophylax]

@Slava_K +1, heck i will even run with more % at times of new releases if there is a switch for that.

i have the dev donation links with various algos to mine as a donation through the dbm project - yet not many have used it - and that goes directly through nicehash to the devs account ...

if more and more people used this kind of donation by mining - then we can all amalgamate our hasrates and make for a good donation to the devs ...

my project page - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1089744 ...

it all needs updating and a less 'messy' op - but the info is all there ... including tnelson and stratehm donation links ...

all the links run through the stratehm stratum proxies - so not a single hash is lost through the proxy if the miner is set correctly ...

nicehash themselves have kindly whitelisted ALL the server ips so that ALL servers stay online to the nicehash system ...

give it a go and let me know if it is a system that will amalgamate / unite miners for a single cause or not ...

there is also a rotational server that donates to most of the devs on the list - but i have not made that public yet ... rotates donation time through the devs btc addresses on a 24hour basis ...

#crysx

[Grim]

The thoughts that went into developing ethash:

https://github.com/LeastAuthority/ethereum-analyses/blob/master/PoW.md

such a shame it goes pos

[pokeytex]

@sp - what is your blake-256 8 round doing on the 750ti, 960, 970 these days?

[sp_]

@sp - what is your blake-256 8 round doing on the 750ti, 960, 970 these days?

Release 78 is doing 945MHASH. (ccminer -a blakecoin --benchmark)

[chrysophylax]

@sp - what is your blake-256 8 round doing on the 750ti, 960, 970 these days?

Release 78 is doing 945MHASH. (ccminer -a blakecoin --benchmark)

which is the algo parameter for decred? ...

#crysx

[sp_]

decred is 14 rounds of blake. So the correct launch parameter in ccminer would be ccminer -a blake ...

But if the block header has changed, a code change is needed.

[ldw-com]

decred is 14 rounds of blake. So the correct launch parameter in ccminer would be ccminer -a blake ...

But if the block header has changed, a code change is needed.

And that is a fact. A code change will be needed.

[chrysophylax]

decred is 14 rounds of blake. So the correct launch parameter in ccminer would be ccminer -a blake ...

But if the block header has changed, a code change is needed.

And that is a fact. A code change will be needed.

ok ... tanx ...

i was asking out of curiosity more than anything ...

im not completely up to scratch with what they are planning - but i think its going to go full PoS anyway ...

tanx again ...

#crysx

[myagui]

@crysx, it's a PoS/PoW Hybrid, will have long term mining going on.

[sp_]

I have sendt version 3 of the sp-mod private to the donators/buyers. A boost in lyra2v2 and quark.

If you want to support this opensource project you should donate 0.1 BTC and recieve my private miner.

Sp-mod priv 3 on the gtx 970 (compared to release 74 (nicehashminer))

quark: +7.1%
lyra2v2: +4.9%

Sp-mod priv 3 on the gtx 750ti (compared to release 74 (nicehashminer))

lyra2v2: +5.8%
quark:  +1.8%

[chrysophylax]

@crysx, it's a PoS/PoW Hybrid, will have long term mining going on.

kool ...

tanx myagui ...

long term PoW is always a good thing ...

#crysx

[chrysophylax]

I have sendt version 3 of the sp-mod private to the donators/buyers. A boost in lyra2v2 and quark.

If you want to support this opensource project you should donate 0.1 BTC and recieve my private miner.

soon sp ...

i have other priorities that require thefarm and my attention ...

vps systems - web services - code fixing / update - all cost btc ...

and i have to have all of it by the 3rd feb ...

so ALL of my resources will be focused on that at the moment ... ive only two weeks left to get payment sorted ...

it will be very tight ...

#crysx

[fenomenhaa]

Hi Folks,

I switced off most of my rigs some time agoand didn't checked. what's going on.My elec. cost is 0.15 cent.Is there anything worth to min?.,any new algo,coins or miners for both amd and nv cards. ? Thanks for help )

[pallas]

Hi Folks,

I switced off most of my rigs some time agoand didn't checked. what's going on.My elec. cost is 0.15 cent.Is there anything worth to min?.,any new algo,coins or miners for both amd and nv cards. ? Thanks for help )

Due to a higher BTC/USD change, X11 and lyra2ve may be profitable at times.
They say ether is always more profitable but I don't mine it.
I say mine if you use the heat you generate, to save gas/diesel/pellets/whatever.

[sp_]

Hi Folks,

I switced off most of my rigs some time agoand didn't checked. what's going on.My elec. cost is 0.15 cent.Is there anything worth to min?.,any new algo,coins or miners for both amd and nv cards. ? Thanks for help )

Lyra2v2 With my buyable private miner v3 (0.1BTC) does 5MHASH on the EVGA 750ti SC standard clocks. (and it only pulls 41 Watt)

Profit per card(nicehash 0.15BTC/GHASH): $0.315
Power cost: ($0.15*(24*41/1000)) =$0.144


Profit after Power per day($0.15/kwh): $0.171  per 750ti

At $0.33/KWh  the powercost is 100% of the Revenue. (no profit)
At $0.15/KWh the powercost is 45% of the Revenue.
At $0.10/KWh the powercost is 30% of the Revenue.
At $0.05/KWh the powercost is 15% of the Revenue.