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March 26, 2013, 07:35:50 PM
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If this is compounded over the remainder of this calendar year, one bitcoin will not be worth more than $ 92,807 in Dec 31st.

Oh for fucks sake. That's it! I'm leaving... nothing moves in Bitcoin any more.

*goes look for other asset to swap his coins for*

Anyone want to sell some wall posts for bitcoin?




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March 26, 2013, 07:39:36 PM
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If this is compounded over the remainder of this calendar year, one bitcoin will not be worth more than $ 92,807 in Dec 31st.

Oh for fucks sake. That's it! I'm leaving... nothing moves in Bitcoin any more.

*goes look for other asset to swap his coins for*

Anyone want to sell some wall posts for bitcoin?





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Pogcoin will be the next big thing.
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March 26, 2013, 07:40:51 PM
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If you voted, in reality you are an accomplice to this mess and only have yourself to blame if you get hurt.


Careful about pointing fingers. There's a valid argument that if you pay taxes, you are an accomplice to this mess.

Can you point me to that argument, because I never heard it. I see no moral problem whatsoever if someone does not pay taxes, only a practical problem. It is not really a choice because it means you'll end up in jail if you disobey or worse if you resist. That is the only reason I submit to the guns.


Osama Bin Laden famously made the argument (others may have as well) that there were no "innocent victims" in the 9/11 attacks since Americans participate in the subjugation of other cultures through the taxes they pay into the US government. Essentially, that makes every tax payer a valid target.

The argument is flawed on too many levels to discuss here, but right off the bat, if the payment of taxes isn't voluntary, the rest of it doesn't fly.
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March 26, 2013, 07:42:48 PM
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If this is compounded over the remainder of this calendar year, one bitcoin will not be worth more than $ 92,807 in Dec 31st.

Oh for fucks sake. That's it! I'm leaving... nothing moves in Bitcoin any more.

*goes look for other asset to swap his coins for*

Anyone want to sell some wall posts for bitcoin?





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Someone tell Casascius to do his next run on Pogs!
Pogcoin will be the next big thiing.

I guess that's how the future will think pogo (dance style) was invented: Someone dropped a tube of pogocoins in a club:




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March 26, 2013, 07:44:21 PM
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If this is compounded over the remainder of this calendar year, one bitcoin will not be worth more than $ 92,807 in Dec 31st.

Oh for fucks sake. That's it! I'm leaving... nothing moves in Bitcoin any more.

*goes look for other asset to swap his coins for*

Anyone want to sell some wall posts for bitcoin?

Buy some more silver from me!  Grin At least it is doing as well as an ECG (EKG auf deutsch) of a dead person measured in Federal Reserve Dollars...

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March 26, 2013, 07:45:50 PM
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The argument is flawed on too many levels to discuss here, but right off the bat, if the payment of taxes isn't voluntary, the rest of it doesn't fly.

We could get into some interesting discussions about the meaning of the term "Voluntary". Bear in mind that "I was just following orders" isn't really a valid defense.

Here's another fave quote of mine:


“I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.”

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March 26, 2013, 07:50:32 PM
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the world market is being manipulated too  Tongue

That's where worlds are sold, right?

no, you buy worlds on SpaceStationVIN457 the "wall street" of our known universe  Cheesy

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March 26, 2013, 07:50:53 PM
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]Osama Bin Laden famously made the argument (others may have as well) that there were no "innocent victims" in the 9/11 attacks since Americans participate in the subjugation of other cultures through the taxes they pay into the US government. Essentially, that makes every tax payer a valid target.
Regardless of the validity of the argument itself it is brilliant for exposing the hypocrisy of US foreign policy.

During the last decade the US military killed hundreds of thousands of civilians all over the world and justified this as "collateral damage". If the killing of civilians by the 9/11 hijackers was evil, then the US military is a few orders of magnitude more evil.

If the US military is justified in killing civilians then the same arguments they use to justify doing it would also exonerate the 9/11 hijackers.
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March 26, 2013, 07:52:46 PM
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]Osama Bin Laden famously made the argument (others may have as well) that there were no "innocent victims" in the 9/11 attacks since Americans participate in the subjugation of other cultures through the taxes they pay into the US government. Essentially, that makes every tax payer a valid target.
Regardless of the validity of the argument itself it is brilliant for exposing the hypocrisy of US foreign policy.

During the last decade the US military killed hundreds of thousands of civilians all over the world and justified this as "collateral damage". If the killing of civilians by the 9/11 hijackers was evil, then the US military is a few orders of magnitude more evil.

If the US military is justified in killing civilians then the same arguments they use to justify doing it would also exonerate the 9/11 hijackers.

Americans got dat bloodlust, mang.

In all seriousness, this country is a fucking embarrassment. I'm sure all the WW2 vets have rolled over in their graves by now.
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March 26, 2013, 07:59:10 PM
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]Osama Bin Laden famously made the argument (others may have as well) that there were no "innocent victims" in the 9/11 attacks since Americans participate in the subjugation of other cultures through the taxes they pay into the US government. Essentially, that makes every tax payer a valid target.
Regardless of the validity of the argument itself it is brilliant for exposing the hypocrisy of US foreign policy.

During the last decade the US military killed hundreds of thousands of civilians all over the world and justified this as "collateral damage". If the killing of civilians by the 9/11 hijackers was evil, then the US military is a few orders of magnitude more evil.

If the US military is justified in killing civilians then the same arguments they use to justify doing it would also exonerate the 9/11 hijackers.

Americans got dat bloodlust, mang.

In all seriousness, this country is a fucking embarrassment. I'm sure all the WW2 vets have rolled over in their graves by now.

Even the ones still alive are rolling over. But I wasn't trying to derail the thread (if such a thing is possible) only pointing out that the argument has been made before. Now let's back to this predicted crash to below $0, shall we?
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March 26, 2013, 07:59:16 PM
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]Osama Bin Laden famously made the argument (others may have as well) that there were no "innocent victims" in the 9/11 attacks since Americans participate in the subjugation of other cultures through the taxes they pay into the US government. Essentially, that makes every tax payer a valid target.
Regardless of the validity of the argument itself it is brilliant for exposing the hypocrisy of US foreign policy.

During the last decade the US military killed hundreds of thousands of civilians all over the world and justified this as "collateral damage". If the killing of civilians by the 9/11 hijackers was evil, then the US military is a few orders of magnitude more evil.

If the US military is justified in killing civilians then the same arguments they use to justify doing it would also exonerate the 9/11 hijackers.

Americans got dat bloodlust, mang.

In all seriousness, this country is a fucking embarrassment. I'm sure all the WW2 vets have rolled over in their graves by now.

and remember not every person deemed to owe taxes (says the IRS) are actual taxpayers. or complete taxpayers

in other news; i had an important question regarding coinLab transistion that got little response

Will CoinLab require ID verification and will they allow USD redeemable codes?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158470.new#new

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March 26, 2013, 08:03:16 PM
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Now let's back to this predicted crash to below $0, shall we?

Crash below $0, would that give us a negative loss i.e. profit?   Cheesy

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Will CoinLab require ID verification and will they allow USD redeemable codes?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158470.new#new

I read somewhere that redeemable codes were being scrapped for US Dollars due to legal reasons.
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March 26, 2013, 08:05:17 PM
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The argument is flawed on too many levels to discuss here, but right off the bat, if the payment of taxes isn't voluntary, the rest of it doesn't fly.

Not saying this is the case with taxes, but sometimes there might be a case for "morally obligative disobedience" (just made that up, I'm not a native english speaker). Think about a german soldier in a concentration camp with the order to kill loads of jewish people. That action isn't voluntary either. So I doubt you can say in general: because something isn't voluntary, you have no responsibility for these actions.



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March 26, 2013, 08:05:26 PM
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If this is compounded over the remainder of this calendar year, one bitcoin will not be worth more than $ 92,807 in Dec 31st.

Oh for fucks sake. That's it! I'm leaving... nothing moves in Bitcoin any more.

*goes look for other asset to swap his coins for*

Anyone want to sell some wall posts for bitcoin?





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Pogcoin will be the next big thing.

I was wondering if  you could create some sort of trading card game where the cards are mined and then people take them and use them in a virtual play ground.

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March 26, 2013, 08:07:24 PM
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and remember not every person deemed to owe taxes (says the IRS) are actual taxpayers. or complete taxpayers

in other news; i had an important question regarding coinLab transistion that got little response

Will CoinLab require ID verification and will they allow USD redeemable codes?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158470.new#new
I think someone mentioned that Coinlab will likely issue 1099's for tax purposes and therefore it seems likely they will require ID verification if it is true.I don't know about the USD redeemable codes though.

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I was wondering if  you could create some sort of trading card game where the cards are mined and then people take them and use them in a virtual play ground.

Isn't that basically the idea of most MMORPGs? Grind for 24 hours and get a new level and a fancy sword?

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March 26, 2013, 08:50:27 PM
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Enjoyable 1400btc bite to kill that 1k+ wall haha. And OHHHH damn someone puts up a new one at 78 haha.

EDIT: And then removed it nearly immediately to move it to 78.5
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March 26, 2013, 08:54:24 PM
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Enjoyable 1400btc bite to kill that 1k+ wall haha. And OHHHH damn someone puts up a new one at 78 haha.

EDIT: And then removed it nearly immediately to move it to 78.5


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