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March 28, 2013, 11:30:15 PM
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Aaaaand back to 90


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March 28, 2013, 11:31:20 PM
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Guys, come on. We will have flash crashes when big players cash part of their stash out and small timers panic sell... But this is going UP UP UP in the mid and long term. I mean, have you seen the insane amount of fiat is pouring into the exchanges? Don't you see bitcointalk.org or reddit are having their higher quantity of online users ever? Don't you see how more people of the streets is slowly hearing about bitcoin and understanding it?

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March 28, 2013, 11:32:38 PM
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I can't believe you idiots are so shortsighted.

That was just the orderve. The main course is tomorrow Smiley

So seeing as the insults are still flying but no explanation let me ask:

If the holders of Bitcoin who believe it to be worthless (or worth much less for the foreseeable future) have just been holding on till they think it has peaked before profiting and getting out won't they have just done that now?  If they did my guess is they wouldn't have been the first with the buy-back-in trigger when there were others amused at the dagger waiting to play catch.  So who is left with masses of coins ready to drive it down?  Don't try and tell me it was early adopters because far as I can tell they wouldn't have adopted early had they not believed this had some potential - and if what's going on now isn't re-affirming that then I don't know what will.  So with so many people apparently ready to have a laugh at the daggers and take advantage of them to buy back in (or to buy more) then please give me an example of the thinking of these holders of masses of coins who are going to take it as low as you believe?

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March 28, 2013, 11:34:39 PM
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Dear bears: Thanks for wasting everyone's time!

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March 28, 2013, 11:35:26 PM
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I hope someone comes along soon and takes the market off them with all the trimmings a big exchange needs for the upcoming big players, Trade Hill maybe?

The other thing we need is an easier way for new U.S. investors to get started.  Coinbase would be a great service if it worked.  All they ever say is, "Sorry, Coinbase has reached its maximum number of bitcoin purchases for the moment. Please try again later. We'll continue raising this limit over time."  If your're willing to keep trying the button hour after hour, they might eventually allow you to buy 10 BTC per day.  Whoopee.

Sending international wire transfers to Japan is too expensive, both in time and money.  Dwolla takes forever to set up, limits the size of your transfers, and is down today due to Dos attack.  Other services seem to charge ridiculous fees, if they accept USD at all. 

Why all the entry barriers?

I've been trying to buy bitcoins for weeks with very limited luck.  Can someone tell me a good way to get USD to some exchange where I can actually buy some serious bitcoin?

One thing that's stopping the growth of Bitcoin is how difficult it is to actually buy them!


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March 28, 2013, 11:36:44 PM
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so this is it right, the last drop b4 we bust up and over 100$ Grin

wait. i feel like i should be joining the sellers after reading that

Perhaps. I made $2100 on the bounce back between $75 and $85. I originally set the sell order for a higher price but figured I won't be too greedy.

I have a feeling we could be in the $70's again before the $90's

Nope, you're wrong. 90$ again.

You're right ! Seems a little too fast to me.
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March 28, 2013, 11:42:13 PM
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I hope someone comes along soon and takes the market off them with all the trimmings a big exchange needs for the upcoming big players, Trade Hill maybe?

The other thing we need is an easier way for new U.S. investors to get started.  Coinbase would be a great service if it worked.  All they ever say is, "Sorry, Coinbase has reached its maximum number of bitcoin purchases for the moment. Please try again later. We'll continue raising this limit over time."  If your're willing to keep trying the button hour after hour, they might eventually allow you to buy 10 BTC per day.  Whoopee.

Sending international wire transfers to Japan is too expensive, both in time and money.  Dwolla takes forever to set up, limits the size of your transfers, and is down today due to Dos attack.  Other services seem to charge ridiculous fees, if they accept USD at all. 

Why all the entry barriers?

I've been trying to buy bitcoins for weeks with very limited luck.  Can someone tell me a good way to get USD to some exchange where I can actually buy some serious bitcoin?

One thing that's stopping the growth of Bitcoin is how difficult it is to actually buy them!


http://LocalBitcoins.com
Don't get me wrong I like and use LB and even use the sell prices to calculate the value of my current holding including slippage were I to lock prices then take a day driving around London cashing out!

But at times like this flash crash it's not so good.  I just tried to buy 20btc for my brother for GBP after he failed after finding blockchain.info/pingit is down and he couldn't get his head around LB himself.  Then after that by the time I'd found my first choice was actually out of coin the price the opportunity had gone within the price range he wanted to pay .  In the UK the problem is even worse than the States I think!

Yet despite all this enough buying pressure  is getting through to the markets for this phenomenal growth.  Surely that tells us something!

If you have a machine on 24/7 why not have a full Bitcoin client running on it to support the network?
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March 28, 2013, 11:44:54 PM
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Warning - while you were reading 2 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.

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March 28, 2013, 11:45:49 PM
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Was going to say you could use Bitinstant but as fast as they are, they might still be slower than other methods, not to mention the fees.

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March 28, 2013, 11:46:00 PM
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March 28, 2013, 11:46:38 PM
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I hope someone comes along soon and takes the market off them with all the trimmings a big exchange needs for the upcoming big players, Trade Hill maybe?

The other thing we need is an easier way for new U.S. investors to get started.  Coinbase would be a great service if it worked.  All they ever say is, "Sorry, Coinbase has reached its maximum number of bitcoin purchases for the moment. Please try again later. We'll continue raising this limit over time."  If your're willing to keep trying the button hour after hour, they might eventually allow you to buy 10 BTC per day.  Whoopee.

Sending international wire transfers to Japan is too expensive, both in time and money.  Dwolla takes forever to set up, limits the size of your transfers, and is down today due to Dos attack.  Other services seem to charge ridiculous fees, if they accept USD at all. 

Why all the entry barriers?

I've been trying to buy bitcoins for weeks with very limited luck.  Can someone tell me a good way to get USD to some exchange where I can actually buy some serious bitcoin?

One thing that's stopping the growth of Bitcoin is how difficult it is to actually buy them!


http://LocalBitcoins.com

First of all localbitcoins.com seriously needs a rewrite of their home page, FAQ, cash exchange guide, etc.  I spent 30 minutes reading all that this morning, and at this point I have more questions than when I started reading.  It is not clear at all.

The best I can figure, I'm supposed to drive 31 miles (round trip), meet some stranger in a Starbucks somewhere, hand him a wad of cash, hope not to get arrested on suspicion of executing a drug deal, do some weird exchange codes by cell phone, in order to get bitcoins at $10 above the current market price.  Surely that's not the best solution!

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March 28, 2013, 11:51:43 PM
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I hope someone comes along soon and takes the market off them with all the trimmings a big exchange needs for the upcoming big players, Trade Hill maybe?

The other thing we need is an easier way for new U.S. investors to get started.  Coinbase would be a great service if it worked.  All they ever say is, "Sorry, Coinbase has reached its maximum number of bitcoin purchases for the moment. Please try again later. We'll continue raising this limit over time."  If your're willing to keep trying the button hour after hour, they might eventually allow you to buy 10 BTC per day.  Whoopee.

Sending international wire transfers to Japan is too expensive, both in time and money.  Dwolla takes forever to set up, limits the size of your transfers, and is down today due to Dos attack.  Other services seem to charge ridiculous fees, if they accept USD at all. 

Why all the entry barriers?

I've been trying to buy bitcoins for weeks with very limited luck.  Can someone tell me a good way to get USD to some exchange where I can actually buy some serious bitcoin?

One thing that's stopping the growth of Bitcoin is how difficult it is to actually buy them!


Try campbx in atlanta.  U can mail them a check, dwolla, wire xfer
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March 28, 2013, 11:52:48 PM
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But at times like this flash crash it's not so good.  I just tried to buy 20btc for my brother for GBP after he failed after finding blockchain.info/pingit is down and he couldn't get his head around LB himself.  Then after that by the time I'd found my first choice was actually out of coin the price the opportunity had gone within the price range he wanted to pay .  In the UK the problem is even worse than the States I think!

Yet despite all this enough buying pressure  is getting through to the markets for this phenomenal growth.  Surely that tells us something!

speedybitcoin.o.uk are pretty OK. They buy at market and there's a locked-in GBP to other-currency exchange built in but if you just want to buy bitcoins quickly without too hefty a cost, give them a look. Keep en eye on the strength of the pound vs other currencies though, they've already done that conversion and factor it into your costs

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March 28, 2013, 11:55:50 PM
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Dear bears: Thanks for wasting everyone's time!

I love the Bears, it isn't a waste of time but an opportunity to check your position.
Like my 5year old said this morning before I LOL'd "wow those [Bitcoin] bulls are happy today." I think he believes the market is driven by animal, and I don't think he is far off.

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March 28, 2013, 11:56:08 PM
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Bear fail! Grin
I tried to buy at $75-78 but got goxxed.  I didn't predict the panic so I didn't have bids Sad
Congratulations to those that did!

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March 28, 2013, 11:59:20 PM
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I do not care price, nor volume, I need some graph of MtGox lag! Seems its on its highs, today.

just caught a few sentences of Magicaltux about this: he's rebuilding the engine. The current lag problem is "by design": allowing users to have orders without necessary funding, because that means you have to trickle down order status updates when a users balance changes. It seems makes sense: a lot of fight between threads reading and writing to/from the orderbook table.

So the change is to disallow users to place orders they don't have the funds for and disallow withdrawal of funds allocated to orders.

What might the implications of this change be?

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March 29, 2013, 12:00:22 AM
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so this is it right, the last drop b4 we bust up and over 100$ Grin

I think there might be a double smack-down this time. Next one on sunday night CET.

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March 29, 2013, 12:05:45 AM
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Bear fail! Grin
I tried to buy at $75-78 but got goxxed.  I didn't predict the panic so I didn't have bids Sad
Congratulations to those that did!
Same here,I went out for the day and would have loved to get some coin during that time.

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March 29, 2013, 12:08:57 AM
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I do not care price, nor volume, I need some graph of MtGox lag! Seems its on its highs, today.

just caught a few sentences of Magicaltux about this: he's rebuilding the engine. The current lag problem is "by design": allowing users to have orders without necessary funding, because that means you have to trickle down order status updates when a users balance changes. It seems makes sense: a lot of fight between threads reading and writing to/from the orderbook table.

So the change is to disallow users to place orders they don't have the funds for and disallow withdrawal of funds allocated to orders.

What might the implications of this change be?

1. some bots will break, some sloppy habits will be broken
2. the engine will be capable of executing orders much, much faster
3. MtGox might have a shot at not pissing off all their customers

https://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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