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March 28, 2013, 10:58:52 PM
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so this is it right, the last drop b4 we bust up and over 100$ Grin
Amen!

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March 28, 2013, 10:58:55 PM
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lol sick action. Almost got a heart attack.
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March 28, 2013, 10:59:45 PM
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go down again? what is the current price? 86?
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March 28, 2013, 11:00:46 PM
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Is it just how they write their database txes?  Can you start a new db table against a master log say every 15 minutes so it's not writing to something the system can't handle?

This type of coding is far beyond me but you'd think a (relatively) modest market of BTC wouldn't pound an exchange so hard that it can't keep up.  I know in other good threads it was explained that just faster HDDs or SSDs wouldn't solve the problem alone but if not that then what?  Spread the load to more physical systems?  I don't think you could simplify the necessary transaction data further.

It just seems so odd that in periods of insane activity that they crash.  If they're in an office building I'd imagine their net in and out is fast enough to handle tons of small KB-sized chunks.

I'm all for someone having an exchange without lag, though I'm sure it's easier said than done.

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March 28, 2013, 11:02:18 PM
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We're not out of the woods yet. Gox is lagging again.

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March 28, 2013, 11:02:26 PM
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Is it just how they write their database txes?  Can you start a new db table against a master log say every 15 minutes so it's not writing to something the system can't handle?

This type of coding is far beyond me but you'd think a (relatively) modest market of BTC wouldn't pound an exchange so hard that it can't keep up.  I know in other good threads it was explained that just faster HDDs or SSDs wouldn't solve the problem alone but if not that then what?  Spread the load to more physical systems?  I don't think you could simplify the necessary transaction data further.

It just seems so odd that in periods of insane activity that they crash.  If they're in an office building I'd imagine their net in and out is fast enough to handle tons of small KB-sized chunks.

I'm all for someone having an exchange without lag, though I'm sure it's easier said than done.

But then they wouldn't make as much off panicing sellers... lol

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March 28, 2013, 11:04:16 PM
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Is it just how they write their database txes?  Can you start a new db table against a master log say every 15 minutes so it's not writing to something the system can't handle?

This type of coding is far beyond me but you'd think a (relatively) modest market of BTC wouldn't pound an exchange so hard that it can't keep up.  I know in other good threads it was explained that just faster HDDs or SSDs wouldn't solve the problem alone but if not that then what?  Spread the load to more physical systems?  I don't think you could simplify the necessary transaction data further.

It just seems so odd that in periods of insane activity that they crash.  If they're in an office building I'd imagine their net in and out is fast enough to handle tons of small KB-sized chunks.

I'm all for someone having an exchange without lag, though I'm sure it's easier said than done.

wall street seems to manage it

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March 28, 2013, 11:07:47 PM
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so this is it right, the last drop b4 we bust up and over 100$ Grin

wait. i feel like i should be joining the sellers after reading that

Perhaps. I made $2100 on the bounce back between $75 and $85. I originally set the sell order for a higher price but figured I won't be too greedy.

I have a feeling we could be in the $70's again before the $90's
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March 28, 2013, 11:09:38 PM
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so this is it right, the last drop b4 we bust up and over 100$ Grin

wait. i feel like i should be joining the sellers after reading that

Perhaps. I made $2100 on the bounce back between $75 and $85. I originally set the sell order for a higher price but figured I won't be too greedy.

I have a feeling we could be in the $70's again before the $90's

Gox is working on a new and enhanced trading engine, once that's rolled out - everythign is going to be faster I would think. Mark wrote it in one of his posts, heck his posting history (MagicalTux).
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March 28, 2013, 11:10:53 PM
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It appears that the market just gets a bit scared of heights sometimes

those are true words, man. that's the only things holding bitcoin back: disbelief. Disbelief that it can really be what it promises to be: one hard liquid world money.


Exactly. Bitcoins are worth far more than people are selling them for right now, simply because somehow, we don't want things to go too fast for our mind to grasp it.

I cant understand how gox has not done anything to fix this ancient lag problem, jeebers H the amount of money they are loosing by not fixing the problem has to be massive. What a joke they are (i have used them because they have the liquidity I need, I am now waiting for better before I trade again).
I hope someone comes along soon and takes the market off them with all the trimmings a big exchange needs for the upcoming big players, Trade Hill maybe?

I'm guessing Coinlab.

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March 28, 2013, 11:13:31 PM
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I'm guessing Coinlab.

Does Coinlab have a proper order book where you can place bids and asks or do they just sell at the market rate ?
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March 28, 2013, 11:13:47 PM
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Bull trap or bear trap?
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March 28, 2013, 11:17:49 PM
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seemingly all back to normal
10M$ bid vs 76K ask ...
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March 28, 2013, 11:21:52 PM
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seemingly all back to normal
10M$ bid vs 76K ask ...
Normal?  The bottom of my MtGox Live chart is looking like a child scribbled all over it with crayon! Wink

If you have a machine on 24/7 why not have a full Bitcoin client running on it to support the network?
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March 28, 2013, 11:25:14 PM
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absolutly crazy!
happy i learned my lessons in other makets before entering here ...
actually one should not operate as a trader in market as crazy as this one
but it¡s fun! and much better than television ... lol


edit: looks like tings are back to normal
no more crazy sales below actual bids ...
for the moment, psh!


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March 28, 2013, 11:26:10 PM
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wall street seems to manage it

That's the point.  Hopefully they'll fix it soon enough.

Oh Loaded, who art up in Mt. Gox, hallowed be thy name!  Thy dollars rain, thy will be done, on BTCUSD.  Give us this day our daily 10% 30%, and forgive the bears, as we have bought their bitcoins.  And lead us into quadruple digits
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March 28, 2013, 11:26:20 PM
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so this is it right, the last drop b4 we bust up and over 100$ Grin

wait. i feel like i should be joining the sellers after reading that

Perhaps. I made $2100 on the bounce back between $75 and $85. I originally set the sell order for a higher price but figured I won't be too greedy.

I have a feeling we could be in the $70's again before the $90's

Nope, you're wrong. 90$ again.

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March 28, 2013, 11:27:28 PM
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seemingly all back to normal
10M$ bid vs 76K ask ...
Normal?  The bottom of my MtGox Live chart is looking like a child scribbled all over it with crayon! Wink

i only meant the relation usd-bid/btc-ask
and as for the price action i am afraid to say it looks like the "normal" dip seen in btc every when and then latly ...
am i wrong?


edit: but you are right, it looks just "awesome" ... lol
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March 28, 2013, 11:28:10 PM
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I'm guessing Coinlab.

Does Coinlab have a proper order book where you can place bids and asks or do they just sell at the market rate ?

As far as I know their service has yet to start, but I'm quite sure it will be with a bid/ask order book as without it, it's pretty darn difficult to establish a fair price.

More on Coinlab here: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/coinlab-bringing-bitcoin-to-wall-street-with-mtgox-deal/ and here: http://coinlab.com/status

They are delayed but it looks promising. This should be the solution to the whole MtGox issue.

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March 28, 2013, 11:29:37 PM
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I hope someone comes along soon and takes the market off them with all the trimmings a big exchange needs for the upcoming big players, Trade Hill maybe?

The other thing we need is an easier way for new U.S. investors to get started.  Coinbase would be a great service if it worked.  All they ever say is, "Sorry, Coinbase has reached its maximum number of bitcoin purchases for the moment. Please try again later. We'll continue raising this limit over time."  If your're willing to keep trying the button hour after hour, they might eventually allow you to buy 10 BTC per day.  Whoopee.

Sending international wire transfers to Japan is too expensive, both in time and money.  Dwolla takes forever to set up, limits the size of your transfers, and is down today due to Dos attack.  Other services seem to charge ridiculous fees, if they accept USD at all. 

Why all the entry barriers?

I've been trying to buy bitcoins for weeks with very limited luck.  Can someone tell me a good way to get USD to some exchange where I can actually buy some serious bitcoin?

One thing that's stopping the growth of Bitcoin is how difficult it is to actually buy them!

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