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[AnotherNode]

Hard fork guess: 12/31/16 6:43 PM

hard fork, 12/30/16 8:07 PM

Hard fork, 12/30/16 2:22 PM  Chain has been speeding up

[dukeneptun]

Can someone please ban duke? Go shit in someone elses parade.  
  
We've been told that big changes are coming just two weeks away. Wait two weeks. Two! Fucking! Weeks!

Unless you can prove any of these allegations. Just shut the fuck up! Nobody wamts to hear your fud!

600+ alt coins and they all have one thing in common. People just like duke calling the masses bag holders and idiots for believing in a project.

I like this project. I have faith in it. It's been doing great over the last two months.

I don't care if your feelings are hurt, go fuck off!

fyi my allegations are valid given the full source code for the windows wallet on the releases isn't public, keep plugging your ears screaming lalala until dev sticks a virus in there and says hey new release everyone make sure you update!

"allegations"

Its already been well discussed that not only will 2FA remain closed source, but the torrent features will be closed source upon release.

Hardly groundbreaking information.

Please go read the other 147 pages before you try to act like you've discovered some fantastic new information that everyone hadn't already discussed a long time ago.

lmao alright let me just run this shady ass program for torrenting and downloading copyrighted things, cracks, etc. that's CLOSED SOURCE... yup absolutely no worries or threat there! can't POSSIBLY see how that could go wrong. Oh... what's this undetected root kit I have?

People from purevidz coming and spamming here. 8 btc collected is a joke for purevidz and a small target of 50btc is also a concern. Nobody wants to invest in scams.

VTR did not have an ICO and the dev keeps posting periodically updating us of things coming. You want it open source so you can copy it for your scammy coins and nothing else. Dev has no obligation to open source it until he is ready and knows there is a headstart to all you scammers. If you are not happy with it being closed source then go and sit in your pure vidz scam thread do not spoil this thread.

instead of bringing up pure vidz which I haven't in any of my posts addressing the issue of being closed source how about you address the fact you're running a shady piece of software that's closed source for pirating copyrighted material and/or other things but not only that it's suppose to manage your money/assets (VTR), lol...

nice red herring

So JoyStream has this great idea to go and get VC funding (so you're just a regular customer); uses Bitcoin so you're being tracked; it will allow you to share...let me think for a minute..fuck all worth sharing....and you'll be in a database of users matched against IP with Bitcoin addresses.

just wanted to point out the double standard here, u have this problem with joy stream but for all you know the next time VTR puts out a closed source release it's coming with a root kit and you'll have a lot more to worry about then shit you just listed... now while this likely won't happen the fact remains that it's a very valid reality given the nature of the project

users should NOT have to blindly trust the dev and run code they can't audit themselves

but it's ok I understand you stick your head in the sand because you're in so deep you've gotta protect your investment, just say it's so and call it for what it is

[pugilist555]

Can someone please ban duke? Go shit in someone elses parade. 
 
We've been told that big changes are coming just two weeks away. Wait two weeks. Two! Fucking! Weeks!

Unless you can prove any of these allegations. Just shut the fuck up! Nobody wamts to hear your fud!

600+ alt coins and they all have one thing in common. People just like duke calling the masses bag holders and idiots for believing in a project.

I like this project. I have faith in it. It's been doing great over the last two months.

I don't care if your feelings are hurt, go fuck off!

fyi my allegations are valid given the full source code for the windows wallet on the releases isn't public, keep plugging your ears screaming lalala until dev sticks a virus in there and says hey new release everyone make sure you update!

"allegations"

Its already been well discussed that not only will 2FA remain closed source, but the torrent features will be closed source upon release.

Hardly groundbreaking information.

Please go read the other 147 pages before you try to act like you've discovered some fantastic new information that everyone hadn't already discussed a long time ago.

lmao alright let me just run this shady ass program for torrenting and downloading copyrighted things, cracks, etc. that's CLOSED SOURCE... yup absolutely no worries or threat there! can't POSSIBLY see how that could go wrong. Oh... what's this undetected root kit I have?

People from purevidz coming and spamming here. 8 btc collected is a joke for purevidz and a small target of 50btc is also a concern. Nobody wants to invest in scams.

VTR did not have an ICO and the dev keeps posting periodically updating us of things coming. You want it open source so you can copy it for your scammy coins and nothing else. Dev has no obligation to open source it until he is ready and knows there is a headstart to all you scammers. If you are not happy with it being closed source then go and sit in your pure vidz scam thread do not spoil this thread.

instead of bringing up pure vidz which I haven't in any of my posts addressing the issue of being closed source how about you address the fact you're running a shady piece of software that's closed source for pirating copyrighted material and/or other things but not only that it's suppose to manage your money/assets (VTR), lol...

nice red herring

Sure i will bring up closed source..developers who do not want their work to be forked and copied are working closed source. There is nothing wrong in it and there are many other coins doing it. IOC for one.

When time is right and the dev is comfortable making it open source he shall. Until then asking for open source and making it sound like its a scam doesnt help.

The dev has been around for 2 years and has been giving updates to the community.  Most of the long term holders and big wallets here are happy with this approach.

[coins101]

I invested in a web site that has a 20% premine, is asking for IOC money, will be buying back coins to support the price, asks people to register on their shady website and operates a moderated thread so everyone sounds like it's all cool in the hood - and I'm cool in the hood with that because I know what I'm talking about.

I have nothing but respect for your 'investment' pics.

Thanks for sharing.

[AnotherNode]

for all you know the next time VTR puts out a closed source release it's coming with a root kit

There are plenty of scams around this forum. But typically if the devs are going to load a virus into their clients, those devs don't tend to wait 2 years. They will pump their project for a few months, at the most, and then try something.

In most cases, devs play around with the pre-mine. Anything over 5% is a red flag. 20% smells of a rat.

If vtorrent devs were to try something now or during the next few hard forks, they would be just about the most patient crypto scammers around, which doesn't fly, IMO.

Plenty of people have looked at the Core client code which is open source and found nothing. Keeping back some unique features for a temporary period is perfectly ok.

You'll have to troll a lot harder because you haven't really got much to play with. But if you're that concerned, report the dev to the mods.

[dukeneptun]

for all you know the next time VTR puts out a closed source release it's coming with a root kit

There are plenty of scams around this forum. But typically if the devs are going to load a virus into their clients, those devs don't tend to wait 2 years. They will pump their project for a few months, at the most, and then try something.

In most cases, devs play around with the pre-mine. Anything over 5% is a red flag. 20% smells of a rat.

If vtorrent devs were to try something now or during the next few hard forks, they would be just about the most patient crypto scammers around, which doesn't fly, IMO.

Plenty of people have looked at the Core client code which is open source and found nothing. Keeping back some unique features for a temporary period is perfectly ok.

You'll have to troll a lot harder because you haven't really got much to play with. But if you're that concerned, report the dev to the mods.

I'm not sure how I'm trolling but it's ok, I understand you like many on bitcointalk are programming illiterate and only care about reaping the fruits of roi or using the technology itself rather than the risks you put yourself at by using it. It doesn't matter if the core code has been audited because if I want to use a wallet with two factor, that means I need to run an executable that I can't personally audit myself and that spells trouble in plenty of ways.

The dev not being malicious of the bat isn't a good argument either. How does it not make sense that for example you build up a credible rep over x years simply to then sabotage it. The same thing happened on these forums when a well known escrow sold his account years back and plenty of people then suffered scam losses because of this or did you forget that?

I invested in a web site that has a 20% premine, is asking for IOC money, will be buying back coins to support the price, asks people to register on their shady website and operates a moderated thread so everyone sounds like it's all cool in the hood - and I'm cool in the hood with that because I know what I'm talking about.

I have nothing but respect for your 'investment' pics.

Thanks for sharing.

Sure let's talk pure vidz since u guys seem to want to jump on that topic even though it holds no relevance to the dangers of running closed source software intended to manage a financial asset.

How is their website shady? You don't need to download anything. I don't need to download the wallet, invest or register to use their software or product, it's all free. BUT more important, it's a fucking website not a program i'm running on my computer so there's no real risk in me using it to stream content that i'm not downloading hence I don't need to audit shit to know it's safe. There are websites you can use that archive bitcoin talk and since I have invested in pure vidz I definitely keep an eye on that thread quite often like others, an i haven't seen anything deleted. Perhaps there's something i over looked but there's been no major censorship, please if there has been bring it to the other investors attentions, make an unmoderated thread and post the screenshots of these deleted posts so we can all do our due dilligence

if pure vidz releases a wallet and says sorry guys it's closed source don't doubt for a minute i won't call them out on that shit either

but like i said though, continue ducking your head in the sand to protect your investment, just don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining

[rhinomonkey]

Only two weeks till the first fork, it will be interesting to see what the dev brings to the table, and also interesting to see how the market reacts.

Anyone have speculations for price?

Last update there was a brief buy up and then it dumped to oblivion lol.

[leigh2k14]

Only two weeks till the first fork, it will be interesting to see what the dev brings to the table, and also interesting to see how the market reacts.

Anyone have speculations for price?

Last update there was a brief buy up and then it dumped to oblivion lol.

It dumped because we were expecting the release of the torrent network, but we got 2FA instead.

This time we know the the big release isn't due, so anything we get is gravy

As for price, it's hard to say, we are currently still undervalued in my opinion, we should hit 10K to 12K sat if the first fork is good, if we get any worlds firsts the maybe even higher. Depends on what gets released.

[morantis]

Has the torrent function actually been worked in yet, as promised?

[j4se]

Has the torrent function actually been worked in yet, as promised?

Not yet - the Dev is still building the groundwork for the torrent functionality. I wouldn't expect full torrent functionality until the 2nd hard fork around February.

I'm guessing the release in the next week will have a number of "under the hood" changes and improvements.

[dukeneptun]

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[j4se]

Haha at least we don't have our heads up our asses like some other pure shitcoins.

[morantis]

Has the torrent function actually been worked in yet, as promised?

Not yet - the Dev is still building the groundwork for the torrent functionality. I wouldn't expect full torrent functionality until the 2nd hard fork around February.

I'm guessing the release in the next week will have a number of "under the hood" changes and improvements.

yeah, pretty much gave up on this one a while back.  if it wasn't ready to deploy with at least a hint of the promised features then why post it, lol.

[j4se]

Has the torrent function actually been worked in yet, as promised?

Not yet - the Dev is still building the groundwork for the torrent functionality. I wouldn't expect full torrent functionality until the 2nd hard fork around February.

I'm guessing the release in the next week will have a number of "under the hood" changes and improvements.

yeah, pretty much gave up on this one a while back.  if it wasn't ready to deploy with at least a hint of the promised features then why post it, lol.

It's not as easy to just build in a simple torrent client into the software - any developer can do that. But to tie it into a token payment system for sharing files as well as implementing anonymity features makes it about 100 times more difficult.

Any one with a technical / development can relate and knows it takes time. Everybody else just has a royal whinge. That's life in the crypto dev space....

[morantis]

Has the torrent function actually been worked in yet, as promised?

Not yet - the Dev is still building the groundwork for the torrent functionality. I wouldn't expect full torrent functionality until the 2nd hard fork around February.

I'm guessing the release in the next week will have a number of "under the hood" changes and improvements.

yeah, pretty much gave up on this one a while back.  if it wasn't ready to deploy with at least a hint of the promised features then why post it, lol.

It's not as easy to just build in a simple torrent client into the software - any developer can do that. But to tie it into a token payment system for sharing files as well as implementing anonymity features makes it about 100 times more difficult.

Any one with a technical / development can relate and knows it takes time. Everybody else just has a royal whinge. That's life in the crypto dev space....

I am a dev and the point is that we don't post every idea here the second it hits our heads, we don't announce things until we are within at least the six month range of making it happen, that way people don't lag around for MORE THAN SIX MONTHS waiting on people to finish what they started

[leigh2k14]

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For someone with legendary status, you are very childish, do you see any of us trolling purvidz thread?

[dukeneptun]

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For someone with legendary status, you are very childish, do you see any of us trolling purvidz thread?

i'm not sure how it's trolling, it's a real and valid concern that the devs of VTR expect users to download and run a close-source piece of software on their machine to manage their money/assets (VTR) and to use their service, u see this right here?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=936724.0

while u can claim all u want that "oh people are aware it's closed source" that's absolute bullshit because most people on these forums don't have the due diligence or tech literacy to actually test compiling a wallet themselves.

people on VTR seem to think that attacking me or my investments some how makes their argument about this real issue that I'm raising to be more valid but it's quite the opposite, it's a logical fallacy since you can't actually address the argument you attack the one presenting it.

I'd like to point out that when I raised the issue of it being closed source I never even mentioned pure vidz any further, it was people in the VTR thread who kept bringing up pure vidz as if it had anything to do with the way their operation works

keep ya head in the sand small son

[j4se]

Has the torrent function actually been worked in yet, as promised?

Not yet - the Dev is still building the groundwork for the torrent functionality. I wouldn't expect full torrent functionality until the 2nd hard fork around February.

I'm guessing the release in the next week will have a number of "under the hood" changes and improvements.

yeah, pretty much gave up on this one a while back.  if it wasn't ready to deploy with at least a hint of the promised features then why post it, lol.

It's not as easy to just build in a simple torrent client into the software - any developer can do that. But to tie it into a token payment system for sharing files as well as implementing anonymity features makes it about 100 times more difficult.

Any one with a technical / development can relate and knows it takes time. Everybody else just has a royal whinge. That's life in the crypto dev space....

I am a dev and the point is that we don't post every idea here the second it hits our heads, we don't announce things until we are within at least the six month range of making it happen, that way people don't lag around for MORE THAN SIX MONTHS waiting on people to finish what they started

That 6 month range is something you have made up arbitrarily. The VTR dev has announced no such timeline for any feature whatsoever.

[mishax1]

@dukeneptun

Trolling is when you're asking critical questions regarding the project and don't get answers..  when that happens, you are free to trash the thread with any meme you see fit.

[leigh2k14]

@dukeneptun

Trolling is when you're asking critical questions regarding the project and don't get answers..  when that happens, you are free to trash the thread with any meme you see fit.

He just not asking a critical question, all his posts have been pretty much trolling.