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October 28, 2015, 10:28:42 AM
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You can't sum percent values like that.
Sum the shares and it's all correct.

LOL! No comments! Grin

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October 28, 2015, 10:34:23 AM
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You can't sum percent values like that.
Sum the shares and it's all correct.

LOL! No comments! Grin

Look on other pools!

Maybe you should read some mathematics book :-)
Or google "adding percentages"

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October 28, 2015, 11:04:34 AM
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Maybe you should read some mathematics book :-)
Or google "adding percentages"

Shares Est. - it is also doubled!
You have a calculator? Smiley

Shares Est. - valid value = 191174 !!!

365967 shares / 191174 est.shares * 100 = 191,43%

You shouldn't deceive miners!



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October 28, 2015, 11:46:33 AM
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that's becoming increasingly laughable :-)

even if the pool (which is not mine, I've got nothing to do with them) declared a higher percentage of shares done vs expected, it would be at their disadvantage (less luck... if you believe in it).

I just stepped in because it made me smile when you added the percentages like you did :-)

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October 28, 2015, 11:59:14 AM
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that's becoming increasingly laughable :-)

I am able to calculate. I am the owner of the pool, in which statistics is valid!

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October 28, 2015, 12:06:25 PM
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I just stepped in because it made me smile when you added the percentages like you did :-)

You ignoramus!!!  Wink

Calculate average:
5 + 10 + 3 + 4 = 22 / 4 = 5.5
8 + 9 + 4 + 12 = 33 / 4 = 8.25
7 + 4 + 14 + 3 + 2 = 30 / 5 = 6

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October 28, 2015, 12:10:31 PM
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I just stepped in because it made me smile when you added the percentages like you did :-)

You ignoramus!!!  Wink

Calculate average:
5 + 10 + 3 + 4 = 22 / 4 = 5.5
8 + 9 + 4 + 12 = 33 / 4 = 8.25
7 + 4 + 14 + 3 + 2 = 30 / 5 = 6

I didn't insult you, I just said you shouldn't add percentages related to different quantities, like you did.
If you don't want people to correct your mistakes, then keep your observations for yourself.
I don't know what you mean by these numbers nor want to continue with this discussion, which is pretty OT anyway.

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October 28, 2015, 12:45:35 PM
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I just stepped in because it made me smile when you added the percentages like you did :-)

You ignoramus!!!  Wink

Calculate average:
5 + 10 + 3 + 4 = 22 / 4 = 5.5
8 + 9 + 4 + 12 = 33 / 4 = 8.25
7 + 4 + 14 + 3 + 2 = 30 / 5 = 6

I didn't insult you, I just said you shouldn't add percentages related to different quantities, like you did.
If you don't want people to correct your mistakes, then keep your observations for yourself.
I don't know what you mean by these numbers nor want to continue with this discussion, which is pretty OT anyway.
math is so over-rated  Grin
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October 28, 2015, 09:07:45 PM
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Isn't math the thing we convinced ourselves in school we would never use in the real world?  Smiley
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October 30, 2015, 02:34:51 PM
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Don't deceive users! Return the correct calculation % of the block what was 3 months ago! The percent has to be twice more!
Really users of your pool aren't able to consider?



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October 30, 2015, 03:44:54 PM
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incoherent babbling
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Can we all just agree that AikaPool is the only fair and legitimate pool for mining vtc? /s
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October 30, 2015, 04:48:45 PM
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incoherent babbling
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Can we all just agree that AikaPool is the only fair and legitimate pool for mining vtc? /s
i mine on miningpoolhub.com...seems to be ok
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October 30, 2015, 08:57:41 PM
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Don't deceive users! Return the correct calculation % of the block what was 3 months ago! The percent has to be twice more!
Really users of your pool aren't able to consider?




LMAO, take Shares divide by Shares Est to get percentage at per block.  Sum(Shares) divide by Sum(Shares Est) to get Percentage over a period of time.  What so hard?  Do you also do average of averages?

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October 31, 2015, 02:50:45 AM
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Don't deceive users! Return the correct calculation % of the block what was 3 months ago! The percent has to be twice more!
Really users of your pool aren't able to consider?




LMAO, take Shares divide by Shares Est to get percentage at per block.  Sum(Shares) divide by Sum(Shares Est) to get Percentage over a period of time.  What so hard?  Do you also do average of averages?

   I think he's saying the expected shares of the last 4 blocks found was 191,174.  But the shares estimate on the general screen shows 382,348.  The actual numbers from both screen actually match with 365,967. 
 
   I don't know how to calculate the expected shares, so I have no idea which seems more likely.  I think he feels the individual block numbers are more valid. so instead of the main screen displaying 365,967/382,348 = 95.72%  it should really be 365,967/191,174 = 191.43% 

   Basically it would take the pool from better then expected (95.72%) to almost 2X worse then expected (191.43%)

I had to read this several times to understand what the problem was, and even then could only do it by actually doing the math to see what was wrong...       

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October 31, 2015, 12:06:12 PM
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Either way, I doubt its on purpose. It should be brought up to the MPOS devs who made the pool software.

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October 31, 2015, 11:15:39 PM
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November 01, 2015, 08:00:31 AM
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Either way, I doubt its on purpose. It should be brought up to the MPOS devs who made the pool software.

MPOS-Dev isn't linked with reduction of % of the block in any way. It was made by the owner of a pool realized to attract more miners!
Several months ago I wrote the owner of a pool of pool .verters.com that they have too big percent of the block - more than 250% and I asked that they opened shares statistics.
Such overestimated % of the block could be because the owner could finish to himself shares and it to overestimate the speed of the workers!
After that at them sharply the % decreased twice.

For an example compare this statistics
https://aikapool.com/limx/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks

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November 01, 2015, 08:12:14 AM
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Either way, I doubt its on purpose. It should be brought up to the MPOS devs who made the pool software.

MPOS-Dev isn't linked with reduction of % of the block in any way. It was made by the owner of a pool realized to attract more miners!
Several months ago I wrote the owner of a pool of pool .verters.com that they have too big percent of the block - more than 250% and I asked that they opened shares statistics.
Such overestimated % of the block could be because the owner could finish to himself shares and it to overestimate the speed of the workers!
After that at them sharply the % decreased twice.

For an example compare this statistics
https://aikapool.com/limx/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks

It's painfully obvious you want more hash at your pool, so you're attacking another. You're probably losing more miners than you gain here.

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November 01, 2015, 12:42:35 PM
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I personally don't use either pool, but I agree with Wolf that it does sound that way.
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November 01, 2015, 01:49:49 PM
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Verters registers double of your actual hashrate on the pool, so it makes somewhat sense to divide the round-luck-percentage by two in the end.
It would have been nice to clarify that to AikaPool instead of just attacking him Smiley
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