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Author Topic: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested  (Read 115094 times)
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January 18, 2015, 12:43:19 PM
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couple of things -

1) should the pre 00:00 deposits be dropped into the game, to keep it moving instead of being a donation to OP?

2) is the 5% fee being calculated ok ?!  site says 5% but the fee being taken is larger.  last deposit was 0.007, so fee should be 0.00035, and not 0.000555.

The 5% fee is taken from the potential payout. So, the payout for a deposit of 0.007 is 0.0091. 5% of 0.0091 is 0.000455. Understand?
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January 18, 2015, 12:53:36 PM
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couple of things -

1) should the pre 00:00 deposits be dropped into the game, to keep it moving instead of being a donation to OP?

2) is the 5% fee being calculated ok ?!  site says 5% but the fee being taken is larger.  last deposit was 0.007, so fee should be 0.00035, and not 0.000555.

The 5% fee is taken from the potential payout. So, the payout for a deposit of 0.007 is 0.0091. 5% of 0.0091 is 0.000455. Understand?

So it is really 6.5% of the deposit.
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January 18, 2015, 01:27:36 PM
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couple of things -

1) should the pre 00:00 deposits be dropped into the game, to keep it moving instead of being a donation to OP?

2) is the 5% fee being calculated ok ?!  site says 5% but the fee being taken is larger.  last deposit was 0.007, so fee should be 0.00035, and not 0.000555.

The 5% fee is taken from the potential payout. So, the payout for a deposit of 0.007 is 0.0091. 5% of 0.0091 is 0.000455. Understand?

So it is really 6.5% of the deposit.

Well you could say I share 5% of the payout with you. But it's really 5% fees.
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January 18, 2015, 02:00:08 PM
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Guys come on send a lil bit to 24hourponzi

i have to take it back mine

ctrl+f and write 17men.

please send it back , that was my everything Sad(

buy me a beer with ETH : 0x71b959c89ca613cce3d7b3270149d919143c1dff
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January 18, 2015, 02:10:41 PM
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lol you cant just ask for your funds back once you've placed it..you took the risk.. now wait it out like everyone else
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January 18, 2015, 02:15:05 PM
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Guys come on send a lil bit to 24hourponzi

i have to take it back mine

ctrl+f and write 17men.

please send it back , that was my everything Sad(

you should know the the risk in investing in a ponzi before doing some things Tongue
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January 18, 2015, 02:23:41 PM
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What will happen with unpaid deposits on day#2? Does the page will be clear or the new deposits will be attached to older?
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January 18, 2015, 02:25:17 PM
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Is only the time from Blockchain counted?

I thought the time from the first confirmation.

so i send an extra high minersfee.

this would not be needed, if only the time from blockchain is counted.

thank you

Aha!
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January 18, 2015, 02:31:16 PM
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What will happen with unpaid deposits on day#2? Does the page will be clear or the new deposits will be attached to older?

The page clears and it starts over...

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January 18, 2015, 02:33:00 PM
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What will happen with unpaid deposits on day#2? Does the page will be clear or the new deposits will be attached to older?

The page clears and it starts over...

yeah, it'll start fresh ..
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January 18, 2015, 02:59:18 PM
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yeah, it'll start fresh ..

And what will happen with those previous deposits that won't get paid? Will they be added to the Fees address of the website owner; or wherever they may go, will those coins be completely owed by the site owner?

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January 18, 2015, 03:01:05 PM
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About that bad starting and "stolen" founds due to a 5 seconds "too early" excuse, I would suggest you to do like many other Ponzis are doing:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=928100.msg10189294#msg10189294

Just dont publish the new adress till round has started.
Thats more honest way to do it and dont stole any coins to investors.
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January 18, 2015, 03:04:35 PM
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yeah, it'll start fresh ..

And what will happen with those previous deposits that won't get paid? Will they be added to the Fees address of the website owner; or wherever they may go, will those coins be completely owed by the site owner?

these coins are already paid to the first investors.
thats where the +30% comes from.

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January 18, 2015, 03:24:03 PM
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these coins are already paid to the first investors.
thats where the +30% comes from.

Ohk, got it... But still can't get it how the admin makes profit? Is it the fees that helps the admin to cover the costs? I have seen that there are many in even less than miners' fee... Even, I have seen admin talk about IPN service, the service itself takes fees for the same, so how he profits?

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Last edit: January 18, 2015, 03:51:33 PM by Spjer
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It's ridiculous,

the op stole the funds of the guys, who send too early, which was not too early if you checked his page!
His script worked fine and took these addresses to the board, but he changed his rules and can manipulate the ladder as he likes!

The timer of his homepage don't work right, and he never said that we have to rely on blockchain.info!
The first inputs of the 24hourponzi also were 1 sec too early then....

But he paid them out...Why?!?!

I think this were his own addresses, he can manually manipulate the game as he like to!!

He dont stick to his own rules! It was clearly written, when the timer hits zero and Day#0 changes to Day#1!!


To sum up, its a great scam:

the op gets:
- 6.5% of every incoming transaction
- he takes the whole btc of these too early deposits, because of his broken page or not clearly formulated terms!!!
- double spends to his own addresses
- kind of special rules for his addresses?!

so in this case, long term everybody loses, only the op gains extremely!!

24hourponzi works like 2 minute ponzi
weeklyponzi is like 5 minutes...
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January 18, 2015, 03:40:05 PM
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these coins are already paid to the first investors.
thats where the +30% comes from.

Ohk, got it... But still can't get it how the admin makes profit? Is it the fees that helps the admin to cover the costs? I have seen that there are many in even less than miners' fee... Even, I have seen admin talk about IPN service, the service itself takes fees for the same, so how he profits?

He profits from the fees.
He takes 6.5 % from the deposit (= 5% from the withdrawl).

So if 100 BTC are deposited he gets 6.5 BTC.

I think this is a good deal for him and us.

Aha!
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January 18, 2015, 03:43:47 PM
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and dont come with the excuse, that the time is not right if you leave ur browser 10 hours without refreshing....

it worked not properly, also if you refreshed it 1 minute before the ponzi starts!!!



OP, if you like longterm gains, then send back these "too early" funds to the people and admit that the rules were not clearly formulated!
Next time: give us all a fresh created address or say explicit, that ur Homepage does not count, only thing is counting is the time on blockchain.info
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January 18, 2015, 03:58:32 PM
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and dont come with the excuse, that the time is not right if you leave ur browser 10 hours without refreshing....

it worked not properly, also if you refreshed it 1 minute before the ponzi starts!!!



OP, if you like longterm gains, then send back these "too early" funds to the people and admit that the rules were not clearly formulated!
Next time: give us all a fresh created address or say explicit, that ur Homepage does not count, only thing is counting is the time on blockchain.info

Please refer to my previous post.

Exactly right on the sob stories. Like I said in my last post, there are many ways to check GMT time besides the timer, although I have always found the timer to be correct except when left un-refreshed for inordinate periods of time.

The problem is that people just didn't know that the site timer can be inaccurate if not regularly refreshed. The fact that the timer drifts over time wasn't discussed in public until AFTER the game had already started. They (some of them, at least) tried to follow the rules by waiting for that timer to hit zero and ended up getting burned by the fact that it had drifted.

I managed to get my bets placed in time but I knew about the drifting from observing the timer discrepancy on the first day; it had been 10 to 15 seconds off for me. This time, I just watched the blockchain timestamps.

Well considering that only a tiny number of deposits were made before 0:00 GMT and that as soon as 0:00:00 GMT ticked over, there were around 100 deposits in 30 seconds makes me think that those who deposited before 0:00 GMT were simply trying to get the advantage by depositing slightly before the time ticked over, knowing that it was not technically the start of the round yet.

I would believe them if those 100 transactions came through before 0:00:00, but you can't deny statistics. As soon, and I mean literally as soon, as the time hit 0:00:00 GMT the deposits went crazy.

Take that information how you wish. I know what I think.
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January 18, 2015, 04:00:19 PM
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Is only the time from Blockchain counted?

I thought the time from the first confirmation.

so i send an extra high minersfee.

this would not be needed, if only the time from blockchain is counted.

thank you

Aha!
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January 18, 2015, 04:05:44 PM
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Suggestions: Add 7 days more to the timer of week #2. And get rid of 24 hour one.

Anyone against this? Why so?



i support, either one should be active.

with people losing daily in 24hours, volume will reduce daily as well , thus killing weekly, and daily in the long run.

They're two separate games. Do you want all the other ponzi owners to take down their sites too and only leave 1? It's not going to happen. They're separate games.



I think in all fairness you shouldn't start both a weekly game and a daily game at the same time.   That is bad for people that want to play and clearly the last two days show your sites aren't up to that task either.   Your slowness today may have really discourage people on the daily game.   I'm not trying to be insulting, but these are real issues.   

The issues are fixed. Should be completely good to go for tomorrow.

Thanks,
The issues are fixed? Not really. There are still about 34-35BTC missing about your double pays. If you handle so much money, you have to double check your scripts will correctly work with the blockchain. We had clear rules and i trusted in them, when investing/playing. Without these double pays, i still got my payments. So i expect, that you will really fix it. Okay, in the worst case, you have to invest your profit from the last week. But with a trusting service you have the chance on really a lot of more in the next weeks.
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