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1061  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Petition to remove Wasabi from recommendations of bitcoin.org on: September 10, 2023, 11:46:43 AM
what the user could do before using Wasabi's coordinator is like what Peter Todd said in the video. Use layers.
Here's another idea if we're about to utilize layers: exchange BTC for XMR and XMR for BTC a little while later. Leaves no traces, much better than Wasabi + lightning altogether. You could then coinjoin the bitcoin, just to minimize the blockchain connection with the previous owner.


But but I want my UTXOs to go through a government-approved CoinJoin to get the highest value on those UTXOs. The government could force exchanges to make that a requirement before they can accept deposits, so I want to teach as much people to use their "tainted" UTXOs to go through JoinMarket -> Lightning Network -> Back to Bitcoin blockchain -> To Wasabi CoinJoin.

Let's give thanks to WasabiWallet for giving us this wonderful opportunity.

 Cool

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If you have "low value", "tainted" UTXOs from the Dark Markets, you could use JoinMarket, and use those UTXOs in Lightning, then send them to yourself. Convert them to onchain Bitcoin then use Wasabi CoinJoin. You now have "government-friendly" UTXOs ready for cold storage. Thanks Wasabi!


See, that's the problem. You think Wasabi implemented blacklisting and now their coinjoined coins are government friendly. We have absolutely no clue with what factors their chain analysis works. We only know that chain analysis is evidently not scientific; what Coinfirm deems as "clean" coins does not necessarily imply the same for other firms.


Are you saying that we can sue zkSNACKS for false advertising if our Wasabi CoinJoined UTXOs are blocked, locked, and confiscated?

 Cool
1062  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit - be aware, i was lucky on: September 10, 2023, 11:32:52 AM
You mean Rollbit created an account for you? Or you already have one before receiving your first Bonus?
I’m sure Rollbit have a valid reason of restricting your account, are you able to contact the support and clarify this issue?

You’re one of the lucky gambler to received such bonuses, maybe there’s a terms for that and you just have to know it. Rollbit will surely communicate it with you as they have an active support. Mind to share some proof here? Because most if your post are about a fake/scam site specifically about gambling sites.

Hmm not sure if you are serious? “Rollbit will surely colmunicate with you”.  
If they did that, i would have had a reason for the ban.


People here needs to understand that the promotion was a sign up bonus, which i could have cashed out instantly since there was no strings attached.

To odds on a 1.01 bet is not abusive at all, and it maybe happend like 10-20 times out of a thousand bets. Its normal for people who wants to climb the ranks to bet like that. I do that on Stake as well, and thats totally ok. Its not unusal that people also lose on odds 1.01, that happend to me as well.   Like Chelsea is up 3-1 in 80 minute, you place a odds 1.01 and the other team scores 2 goals the next 10 minutes.. It happends often!

Its like betting on Crash and cash it out on 1.01, is that abusive as well? People needs to understand that such bets is ok! You can climb the ranks faster but you lose big money when it fails. Its normal and totally ok.

I dont intend to speak fore to them.. Im fine with that being closed for good when they ban people without explanation, and i leave with good profit. I just want to make people aware that they can’t trust them at all.. Getting banned without knowing the reason is crazy and i wish for nobody to have balance in there while this happend.

Also remember that Rollbit is non transparent at all. No names on owners, all support/admins uses nicknames and they decide the communication.. if they dont want to discuss with you, they stop answeing. Thats how they do.


It's probably "technically not abusive", but it could be that from the casino's viewpoint? Plus like you said in your OP, you have withdrawn $50,000 - $80,000 in the past year and possibly another $50,000 - $80,000 more every year for the NEXT FEW years, do you really believe the site will just allow you to do that to them? Right or wrong from a user's point of view, it was a business decision to lock your account and kick you out, and it should be an expected one in my opinion. If you wanted to have a consistent stream of revenue from doing that, then you should have made other "moves" that makes you look like a pleb-gambler. Cool
1063  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DCA'ing isnt a bad strategy on: September 10, 2023, 09:27:16 AM
I can see that the majority here support the DCA as a good investment strategy. Of course, there are some risks, as DCA doesn't guarantee a positive outcome and can lead to buying at an unfavourable price. Some say it's a strategy for beginners, but honestly, i think it's just good for anyone who doesn't want to drown in researching the market and emotional rollercoasters of making right or wrong decisions. It's also safer because if a person buys a lot at an unfortunate time, it's worse than buying a part at a good time and a part at a bad time.


It's also very inefficient use of capital especially that we already have sufficient fundamental knowledge on Bitcoin's 4-year cycles due to the halvings, and open information from the Federal Reserve/your Central Bank's current monetary policy if they're tightening or expanding.

Common-sense says if Federal Reserve/your Central Bank is tightening = save fiat because it will become more scarce, temporarily. If the money-printer is on = buy Store of Value assets like Bitcoin. Having that said - What are the Central Banks all over the world currently doing? Is the DXY going higher or lower? It's probably better to save your salaries in U.S. Dollar for now and take advantage of DIPs WHEN the opportunity comes.

But if you have unlimited capital, then go ahead and DCA.
1064  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Petition to remove Wasabi from recommendations of bitcoin.org on: September 10, 2023, 09:11:02 AM
Because these government-favored CoinJoins are a threat to Bitcoin's fungibility, and therefore might make UTXOs that went through them "more valuable", what the user could do before using Wasabi's coordinator is like what Peter Todd said in the video. Use layers. Cool

If you have "low value", "tainted" UTXOs from the Dark Markets, you could use JoinMarket, and use those UTXOs in Lightning, then send them to yourself. Convert them to onchain Bitcoin then use Wasabi CoinJoin. You now have "government-friendly" UTXOs ready for cold storage. Thanks Wasabi!
1065  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Friendly wagers in Bitcointalk on: September 09, 2023, 10:02:59 AM
I believe another fun and friendly wagers that can be done in BitcoinTalk would be between those "technical analysis experts" in the Speculation Subforum, to see if they truly are willing to bet in their price predictions. To be frank, I think none of them trade cryptocurrencies with large amounts of volume. The real whalecumulators of BitcoinTalk are probably just quiet or act in a trollish manner maybe. Cool
1066  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DCA'ing isnt a bad strategy on: September 09, 2023, 07:21:33 AM
People are trying to figure out the best way to invest in cryptocurrency because it can be very unpredictable. If you're an investor looking to reduce your risk, you might consider a strategy called dollar-cost averaging (DCA). However, using this strategy means you're less likely to make really big profits.

Dollar-cost averaging means putting the same amount of money into an investment over time. It's nice because it makes investors feel more comfortable. By spreading out your Bitcoin purchases over time, you're either buying when it's doing well, or you're getting it at a lower price compared to your first purchase, which is a good thing.

Some people prefer to invest a large lump sum all at once because you might end up with more Bitcoin quickly. But there's also a chance you'll end up with less. To decide between these two methods, you need to think about the risk involved.

If you want a bigger chance of making a lot of money, go for the lump sum. If you want to slowly accumulate Bitcoin with the least risk (even if it means having less Bitcoin in the end), then DCA is better. For most regular people who just want to accumulate Bitcoin, DCA is a good choice because it helps you get a decent amount of Bitcoin based on the money you have to invest.

What is your opinion?
And and which method do you prefer to be used in this present market conditions?


Why not do a little of both lump sum strategy, and some DCA done in between if Bitcoin is in a price discount? But for plebs like me who have limited capital, it's probably better to buy the DIPs during bear cycles than trying DCA to sprwad their risk. We don't have the right amount of capital like the billionaires to do that.

Plus the money printers have their own 4-year cycle too. Satoshi timed it very well. Cool

1067  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lump vs DCA with real data on: September 09, 2023, 07:07:28 AM
No it's just my crappy cut and paste from excel

I was showing if you would have lumped at first of any Jan 1 from 2019 - 23 what that amount would be at 8/1/2023.... It not cumulative, sorry.

I wanted to go back far enough to get an election and a halving in there. Looking at it now I want to redo it so it formats better. I'm also thinking of omitting 2018 and 2019, those were immature growing years, I don't think they are indicative how things are going forward really. redux coming when I some time


But wouldn't that be cooking/manipulating the data? It might be "immature/growing years" in your own opinion, but it's still real and actual data no matter how your opinion says about it.
1068  Economy / Economics / Re: BRICS has become eleven countries instead of five. on: September 08, 2023, 02:04:10 PM

Let's discuss the results of this expansion on the global economy and the possible position of the G-7 countries. And do you think that this is the beginning of the formation of a new world order,


It's going to be a game of hot potato between the BRICS countries because they'll be dropping each other's currencies to hold the U.S. Dollar.

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especially since in the speech of Russian President Vladimir Putin, he had stressed the need to deal with a common currency among the countries of the group in addition to local currencies ?


But which of the BRICS countries want their currency to be THE "reserve currency"? They haven't identified one yet. Will it be the Chinese Yuan? I would doubt that China wants to be the BRICS reserve currency because they couldn't devalue it anymore to support manufacturing and exports.

It's also very laughable that China is using the "BRICS movement" as anti-U.S. propaganda but still holds about $3 trillion U.S. Dollars in its reserves.
1069  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: September 08, 2023, 11:29:10 AM
OK, I respect your opinion, but you do you. Personally, I won't be buying ANY Bitcoin at the current price levels because due to the current macro-economic situation around the world, we could get another opportunity to buy Bitcoin with a big discount again and front-run everyone. Give it until March next year, but it could happen again before that. Probably by the end of this year?

My bids are on $20,000.
         ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you place a bid area on $20,000 I understand very well, you must be very careful of the global economic situation which will impact on a further decline for BTC itself but, I think it is still very far towards that decline and in the investment world a buying strategy with Low prices and selling at high prices are the general keys and the installment strategy with DCA is one of the most comfortable without having to worry about every moment we will buy.


DCA is good for those people who have enough disposable income that comes in regularly every week/month. But for a pleb like me, I need to pick good price levels where I could get the most of my limited capital. Plus read the news. Why would I buy now if I know there's some probability that some macro-economic and geo-political events will crash ALL markets all over the world?

As long as the Federal Reserve is not turning on the money printer, economies and markets will eventually crash back down again.
1070  Economy / Gambling / Re: MoneyPot - Crash with the lowest house edge on: September 08, 2023, 11:15:39 AM
And in just one day the number of users continued to increase by 91 new users, even though the bankroll decreased a little, in my opinion it was a natural thing and I can still say that the overall bankroll is stable.
The bankroll of MoneyPot is fluctuating for the profits and losses of the users. Now the bankroll has decreased to 37.5 Bitcoin. Users betting activity is gradually increasing, but the house of MoneyPot can't generate profits with the wagering activity of the users. I'm wondering how long the house edge of MoneyPot will keep the users happy by staying in negative Cheesy.


It's merely variance - IE the difference how much the casino is expected to win based on its house edge, and the luck the players have against the casino over the short term. Because given enough time, house edge will always make the casino win in the long term. No matter who plays or how you play, whether you're a winner or a loser, as long as the game is running, the casino will win.
1071  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: September 08, 2023, 07:21:16 AM
Your cautious yet optimistic stance regarding possibility of significant increase in Bitcoin price is quite understandable. As an informed and experienced Bitcoin investor you are well aware of  that predicting future price of Bitcoin is very challenging task. Various factors, such as regulatory developments, general state of global economy and prevailing monetary policies, can impact all risky assets including Bitcoin.
If you treat Bitcoin like a treasure worth holding, your mindset will significantly change. First, you will be more focused on accumulating more of it rather than bothering about the price. Indeed, it is very emotionally draining to be worried about Bitcoin price. From personal experience, one tend to look more on the price of Bitcoin when one is so curious about quick profits and not long term HODL. On the other hand, having a futuristic mindset with Bitcoin will eliminate this burden of looking at price always because the focus will be on how to accumulate certain quantity of Bitcoin by a certain year. This is where DCA comes in and am happy a lot of people are already applying same thereby eliminating some of the psychological burden that comes with buying Bitcoin without a well-thought out plan.
Nevertheless, we can reasonably anticipate that there are favourable odds for significant price appreciation in 2024, which marks the year of Bitcoin's halving event.
The best we can do at best is to expect as it is up to the market to decide. As a believer in Bitcoin, one must have some level of faith that someday, the price will go up even though we done know when and how. Another thing is also to look at history data and correlate same with previous events and the outcome in the price. This is where the halving comes in. So, I agree with you that the halving next year necessitate optimistic anticipation of rise in price.
Personally, I don't have any problem with the idea of ongoingly looking at the BTC price and the value of your overall BTC holdings as compared to fiat, and even part of the sentiment of this thread involves considering the extent to which there might be some value in terms of trying to time dips versus just buying BTC regularly without much if any reference to the price, and I have difficulties considering that both might not be done and/or accomplished without necessarily devolving into trading practices and/or panicking based on BTC price moves.
Of course there is. I never understood why you never accepted a simple idea that to buy Bitcoin at a discount gives the buyer more sats for the bid that he/she made.

Yeah.. your head is like a concrete block that is not penetrable.

It seems that I have explained a million different ways, and nothing seems to sink in because you already have your mind made up regarding what strategy you are going to employ and your inability to understand and appreciate that a newbie coming into bitcoin is likely going to be way the fuck better off just getting started rather than trying to figure out if a BTC price dip is coming or not... and once s/he has accumulated a certain amount of BTC and learned about BTC for a while, then maybe s/he will be in a better position to either change his/her strategy to supplement with buying on dips, rather than DCA or to completely replace the DCA strategy with some buying on dips kind of a practice.. that still may or may not be a form of DCA, depending upon how it is deployed..

But in a zoomed out, low time preference context, it doesn't matter.

It might matter in the context of someone waiting around for a Dip might end up fucking himself (or psyching himself) out of buying bitcoin on a regular basis and perhaps employing more aggressive ongoing BTC buying habits.. so maybe the whimpy guy ends up strategizing and not really buying as much as the guy who just buys regularly and perhaps supplements a bit more from time to time with extra purchases on dips.  Do you need some examples, or do you just want to act like the ONLY way to go is to buy on dips based on your retroactively looking at the BTC price moves and the figuring out the points at which some hypothetical person would have bought his/her BTC?

We're here to HODL and front-run the billionaires, and in that at least we're on the same side. Cool

That seems to be true... and there are likely still at least another 10 years of front-running billionaires, even though some of them are seeming to start to "get it."... even though it is hard to know which ones of them are actually getting it rather than seeming to get it but not really getting it.   


OK, I respect your opinion, but you do you. Personally, I won't be buying ANY Bitcoin at the current price levels because due to the current macro-economic situation around the world, we could get another opportunity to buy Bitcoin with a big discount again and front-run everyone. Give it until March next year, but it could happen again before that. Probably by the end of this year?

My bids are on $20,000.
         ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1072  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Two years ago today, El Salvador adopted Bitcoin as legal tender on: September 07, 2023, 03:39:35 PM
Today makes it two years since El Salvador made bitcoin a legal tender in the country. Since the adoption of bitcoin in that country. The president of the country Nayib Bukele has accumulated about 2381BTC which he has spent $101 million for the purchase with an average purchase price of $43,357. The price is down by 40% which the BTC price now worths $61 million today.

Even as this is happening, the president is not compelled or pressured to sell them off, but still optimistic about the future of bitcoin and will likely love to add more to the bitcoin savings until a target 100,000 BTC by 2024 is met. Will this approach, confidence and doggedness by the president of El Salvador make other countries to follow his footsteps. No one has loved and gave much confidence in bitcoin as a government like him, and I admire and respect him for that a lot. We hope other countries leaders will follow and trail on his path.



https://bitkan.com/learn/how-much-bitcoin-does-el-salvador-own-in-2023-the-risks-16511


I believe they would if they see El Salvador is sitting on top of a Bitcoin treasury large enough in value to not take any added loans from the Cabal behind the IMF and the World Bank. It starts there, and there could also be the possbility that El Salvador would encourage and provide Bitcoin loans to their South American neighbors and discourage them from taking loans from the IMF and the World Bank. Breaking down political strongholds. Cool
1073  Economy / Speculation / Re: Does Nvidia's Result bring a positive impact on Bitcoin? on: September 07, 2023, 03:21:36 PM
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It's talking about how Bitcoin went on a rally ahead of Nvidia's results and an anticipated Powell's Speech. Got me thinking – what's your take on this? Do you think there's a connection between Bitcoin's movement and these events? Curious to know what you think about the impact it might have on the Bitcoin scene.
Went through the article and it looks funny regarding some of the claims like the BTCitcoin market will rally in correlation with the stock market and i cannot understand how a rally in Nvidia will have a positive impact on BTCitcoin as they never launched a BTCitcoin miner nor planning to launch one.

Actually these graphic card companies benefited greatly because of the cryptocurrency market as many of their high end cards used to sell like hot cakes as miners used to purchase them in bulk while the actual gamers find it hard to get hold of a card.  


There's a conspiracy theory that says that NVIDIA's outstanding performance in sales and revenue this year was stimulated by GPU sales, and those orders came from CoreWeave. But the problem - CoreWeave might merely be a shell company backed and built by? - BlackRock and NVIDIA, and BlackRock is one of NVIDIA's largest shareholders. If that's all true, then everyhing about it is fake and it will definitely CRASH.
1074  Economy / Services / Re: [CFNP] Moneypot.com - Crash with the Lowest House Edge! | Signature Campaign on: September 07, 2023, 02:53:47 PM
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1075  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Petition to remove Wasabi from recommendations of bitcoin.org on: September 07, 2023, 02:43:33 PM
Cobra won't remove WasabiWallet unless they're confirmed to be nefarious people who are there to co-opt Bitcoin. They're actually not.
They are directly funding blockchain analysis companies, which are the exact same companies providing flawed evidence to the government to prosecute privacy devs for writing code. They are enforcing government sanctioned blacklists and censoring their users. They are enforcing the concept that bitcoin is not fungible. In what way is any of that not nefarious?


What I define as nefarious in this context are anti-Bitcoin entites either open or in secret which their goal is to co-opt Bitcoin and compromise it. It's not what I see in WasabiWallet. They are simply too small because their market demograpic is too small. We can always tell our fellow plebs to avoid using their centralized coordinator.

Plus what I see in Wasabi is a group of developers who believe that there's more incentives for them financially and for their security if they filter out "questionable" UTXOs.

"Enforcing government sanctioned blacklists", no they can't and "censoring their users", no they're not. They're merely filtering UTXOs that enter THEIR centralized service.

I'm not saying that the community shouldn't inform the public, in fact I believe we should, but avoid drama. It was good during the first few moments, but currently it's making us look like a group of Karens.
1076  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] Moneypot.com - Crash with the Lowest House Edge! | Signature Campaign on: September 06, 2023, 12:18:53 PM
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1077  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Petition to remove Wasabi from recommendations of bitcoin.org on: September 06, 2023, 11:57:51 AM
Sorry, I don't think it's going to happen. I have had my share of problems with their representative Kruw in the Wasabi thread like some other members here, and have a very bad opinion of him. Still, I don't see Wasabi as a malicious entity that would require it be removed from bitcoin.org. Proper warnings about their activities and partnership with blockchain analysis should be posted though, and I would support that any day of the week. Any time they call themselves a privacy tool should be corrected that they aren't, etc.
  

THAT'S IT! That's why I believe we're becoming Crypto-Karens because of our insistence of this issue. Cobra won't remove WasabiWallet unless they're confirmed to be nefarious people who are there to co-opt Bitcoin. They're actually not. Wasabi developers merely accepted the trade-off and hired the services of some Blockchain Intelligence Agency, the B.I.A. to protect zkSNACKS and themselves from the authorities.
1078  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: September 06, 2023, 09:55:45 AM
Your cautious yet optimistic stance regarding possibility of significant increase in Bitcoin price is quite understandable. As an informed and experienced Bitcoin investor you are well aware of  that predicting future price of Bitcoin is very challenging task. Various factors, such as regulatory developments, general state of global economy and prevailing monetary policies, can impact all risky assets including Bitcoin.
If you treat Bitcoin like a treasure worth holding, your mindset will significantly change. First, you will be more focused on accumulating more of it rather than bothering about the price. Indeed, it is very emotionally draining to be worried about Bitcoin price. From personal experience, one tend to look more on the price of Bitcoin when one is so curious about quick profits and not long term HODL. On the other hand, having a futuristic mindset with Bitcoin will eliminate this burden of looking at price always because the focus will be on how to accumulate certain quantity of Bitcoin by a certain year. This is where DCA comes in and am happy a lot of people are already applying same thereby eliminating some of the psychological burden that comes with buying Bitcoin without a well-thought out plan.
Nevertheless, we can reasonably anticipate that there are favourable odds for significant price appreciation in 2024, which marks the year of Bitcoin's halving event.
The best we can do at best is to expect as it is up to the market to decide. As a believer in Bitcoin, one must have some level of faith that someday, the price will go up even though we done know when and how. Another thing is also to look at history data and correlate same with previous events and the outcome in the price. This is where the halving comes in. So, I agree with you that the halving next year necessitate optimistic anticipation of rise in price.

Personally, I don't have any problem with the idea of ongoingly looking at the BTC price and the value of your overall BTC holdings as compared to fiat, and even part of the sentiment of this thread involves considering the extent to which there might be some value in terms of trying to time dips versus just buying BTC regularly without much if any reference to the price, and I have difficulties considering that both might not be done and/or accomplished without necessarily devolving into trading practices and/or panicking based on BTC price moves.


Of course there is. I never understood why you never accepted a simple idea that to buy Bitcoin at a discount gives the buyer more sats for the bid that he/she made.

But in a zoomed out, low time preference context, it doesn't matter. We're here to HODL and front-run the billionaires, and in that at least we're on the same side. Cool
1079  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for September on: September 06, 2023, 09:28:47 AM
The closer we are getting to halvening, the higher the chance to see some early bullish movements. And the chance of bearish movements should reduce too, it would be quite strange to see Bitcoin moving to its 16K support when the halvening is half year away. I voted for sideways and think there still many months of sideways ahead, and eventually a bullish breakthrough like in the previous markets. There can also be smaller breakthroughs followed by pullbacks - $32K then $40K after some time and so on.


Plus the more damage the tightening causes, the more Powell does an over-adjustment during the expansion phase, which WILL also make cryptocurrency prices surge like 2016 - 2017's bull cycle.

It's also not just about the halving, and that makes Plan B's theory flawed. Scarcity is only one side of the equation, there's also the question WHERE demand will come from.

Pledditor made the right conclusion, although we could definitely argue that the halvings also reduce sell pressure.

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I continue to believe that #bitcoin's 4 year cycles are just coincidences and have little to do with the halvenings.

Global M2 money supply has actually been having its own "4 year cycles" as of late, and those cycles have been reflected in most risk assets, including bitcoin



https://twitter.com/pledditor/status/1698936311602614449

1080  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Who is account of transaction fees? on: September 06, 2023, 08:20:14 AM
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I'm confused. What's the "cut-through?
Topic about cut-through: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=281848.0


I learned something new again! Thank you, ser, you're an asset in BitcoinTalk. I'll do some more reading, and I'll definiitely point Ordinals users to that information the next time someone argues for censorship-resistance of dick pics and fart sounds in the Bitcoin blockchain. It's not that I support the debate that Ordinals is an attack, it's that now I learned that Ordinals is poorly implemented, WITHOUT testing.
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