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1601  Economy / Economics / Re: Feb 1 FOMC meeting on: January 30, 2023, 05:46:03 AM

FOMC has more influence on stocks, currencies of emerging countries and borrowing, but it has less influence on gold and Bitcoin despite all attempts to link them.

The market is now thirsty for any news, and it will cause a domino effect, even if that news does not have a direct impact on the price of Bitcoin.

For example, during the past 10 days, the price increased by a large percentage, without any different economic news than before.


The "less influence on Gold, and Bitcoin" either increase or it decreases depending on the situation of the market. Everyone should try to research about Pearson Correlation Coefficients between different cryptocurrencies, then include Gold and Bitcoin. If the value is = 0.50 - 0.75, it's fairly correlated, and if the value is = 0.75 and above, it's definitely closely correlated. It changes from cycle to cycle or cycles within a longer cycle.

My guess would be, its yearly value might be around some points above 0.50 because check the charts of Bitcoin and SPX Index. The peak during 2021, and the valley during 2022 were mere months different.
1602  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Issues with Proof-of-Work on: January 30, 2023, 05:25:05 AM

@windfury
POW is a mechanism to make an expensive id
NO where did i say useless (dont even start more social drama by injecting your own words)


I was just merely making the reason clearer for the newbies, and the plebs like me, franky. I never said you were doing something in this topic.

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satoshi chose PoW instead of PoS because


Incorrect,

Satoshi choose PoW because it was the only option available in 2008 for what he wanted.


Satoshi chose POW because it was the only FEASIBLE option available, and it STILL currently remains the only feasible option right now.

Plus in case many of you forgot, Wei Dai's B-Money experimented with a form of Proof Of Stake, I believe it was the first  to resemble a POS coin, but later said it was impractical because it couldn't solve the double-spend problem.

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Since the servers must be trusted to a degree, some mechanism is needed to
keep them honest. Each server is required to deposit a certain amount of
money in a special account to be used as potential fines or rewards for
proof of misconduct.

http://www.weidai.com/bmoney.txt

1603  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Issues with Proof-of-Work on: January 28, 2023, 11:10:20 AM

PoW is PURELY the mechanism to create an expensive ID of a lump of data no matter what that data inside contains


Let me just interject, for OP and the newbies in the forum who might misunderstand the post, that the mechanism is NOT "purely useless", it was designed as a way to be a Sybil Attack protection mechanism for the network. It's also where Satoshi's brilliance is shown because it also was implemented to be the mechanism for issuing the currency, and therefore also incentivizing the miners to keep continuing.
1604  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: January 27, 2023, 12:31:20 PM
It doesn't what many of our opinions are, Bitcoin as a censorship-resistant cryptocurrency will be used where it's needed, and where it can help a person, a group, or a nation of people - for better or worse. Plus with that, the price will surge, and the speculators will come - miners, traders, investors - from many countries, and of different social classes.

The economist Milton Fried envisioned a decentralized currency years before Bitcoin was invented. That indicates that there truly is a need, a natural evolution for money, but there wasn't a solution found to solve the Byzantine General's Problem until Satoshi implemented POW.
1605  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: 1inch Network's HW on: January 26, 2023, 10:56:00 AM
Can you post a link where it said that? It would be unwise, as a developer in crypto, to build a hardware wallet, then exclude Bitcoin.

It's not officially open/released to the public yet, I believe we should give it more time. Because that's going to be another unwise decision if they, as again developers, would make their software closed source. But if their market is the newbie-plebs during the next bull market, they might sell them in large numbers in a short amount of time. Cool

If it supported Bitcoin and if it was planned to go open-source, why wouldn't they want to use this information for marketing? Both are almost (or already) used as buzzwords and should rank well in hardware-wallet-related search queries, don't you think?


I'm merely giving them the benefit of the doubt, and I usually do especially if it's a new service or product for cryptocurrency users. Plus I respect the cynicsm, but the point is, wouldn't it be unwise of them to exclude Bitcoin by default, and be closed source.

To let you know what I truly think, in my own personal opinion, no one should trust the product if their engineers/developers believe that doing both excluding Bitcoin AND releasing the product closed source would be wise decisions.
1606  Economy / Economics / Re: "Prepare for defation in 2023" on: January 26, 2023, 05:45:09 AM

so now your "defation" is not about bitcoin.. but about a fiat "defation"


You came in the topic, and tried to derail it, without understanding what it is truly all about? I'm disappointed franky. I thought you were smart. Read OP!

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ok lets handle this new swerve to your topic you instigated


You then try to gaslight everyone into believing that the topic was swerved into something else. Newbies, did you see that? That's = franky-101.
1607  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bye Bye Bear Market :) on: January 26, 2023, 05:25:14 AM
Plus because of Quantitative Tightening/reduction of the money supply implemented by the Federal Reserve, and other Central Banks in different regions around the world to fight inflation, there might come a deflationary cycle that might cause a depression and pull asset prices down because of low demand. I know that it's debatable, but it's not impossible in my opinion.

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It's probably a surge like what happened during 2019. It was the middle of a bear market, but Bitcoin went from $3,000 to $13,000, then went back down.

I too believe that the worst is over but I think we are still in for many ups and downs, as well as months of sideways movement in some cases. There is not a lot of money in circulation and that means there is not a lot of money to invest, plus we are some time away from halving.

If the central banks change their rate policy, more money will flow to bitcoin, and after the next halving we will surely enter a clear bull run, but until then I don't expect much joy.


I'm very confident that they will, and that QE/BRRR-Money-Printing will return, BUT everything must be going through a deflationary cycle and a recession first. Wait for June, and check how high the inflation rate is in the United States. It might fall faster than projected. Plus why the United States? Because they are still the economic leader of the world, and every economy will follow that lead. Not China, not Saudi Arabia, but only the United States.

1608  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bye Bye Bear Market :) on: January 25, 2023, 11:17:39 AM
Bitcoin 2018 vs 2022:

1. 7 MA crossing 25 MA.
2. Bitcoin broke the resistance trendline.
3. End of Bear Market, bottom is in.



How I wish this is completely true mate though  have been following you and sees most of your confidence about Bitcoin movement , if bear really ends here meaning I will be successful in all of my buying right before the pump happens? yes I bout at 17k and at 19k , knowing the price now is at 22-23k meaning i will continue to close my eyes and wait , even there is a small dump this what needs to stay strong and never panic.


Plus because of Quantitative Tightening/reduction of the money supply implemented by the Federal Reserve, and other Central Banks in different regions around the world to fight inflation, there might come a deflationary cycle that might cause a depression and pull asset prices down because of low demand. I know that it's debatable, but it's not impossible in my opinion.

I am not sure if this is a bull trap although my doubts are great, but I am convinced that we are not out of the bear market yet, it is still very early to confirm the bears was left behind. It is normal for bitcoin to recover from a long string of declines, just as there will be a few sunny days in winter.

In order to see what the next trend of bitcoin is going to be, we need to take more time to observe and confirm whether the winter has indeed ended or if this is just a price trap.


It's probably a surge like what happened during 2019. It was the middle of a bear market, but Bitcoin went from $3,000 to $13,000, then went back down.
1609  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the factor that affects the price of bitcoin on: January 24, 2023, 04:30:56 PM
There are a bunch of preconceived ideas about the aspects or justifications that affect the price of Bitcoin. I will give you some illustrations: Contest; Cost of production; Supply and Demand; Restrictions and Legal Matters etc.


In your statement or ideas, what are the elements that can influence the price of bitcoin?


The state of the economy. If it's in a recession the people would have no, or less, disposable income available to invest in stocks/bonds/cryptocurrencies.

Market sentiment is also another important element that can influence the price of Bitcoin. Because if everyone is bearish, there's less demand, and if there's less demand = no surge in price.
1610  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Xi, Putin wants Bitcoin without wanting Bitcoin on: January 24, 2023, 04:16:02 PM
Innovations in the financial world will not start with Russia. Cryptocurrencies will be a transitional stage for the implementation of SBDC in global and local finance. As soon as cryptocurrencies are no longer needed, it will be banned. And what remains will not look like modern cryptocurrencies, but will resemble a centralized blockchain, where each address will be verified.


But what do you mean by that? The people in power don't need cryptocurrencies, it's actually a "pest" for them, a "Rat Poison Squared". They have no need for a permissionless, decentralized cryptocurrency because it would take away some of their control over plebs like us, and give plebs like us the ability to go around their laws.

I believe Russia should start thinking that they're like plebs like us. They buy could Bitcoin, and could weaken the West's  political strongholds. Because of the price caps imposed by the West, Russia could peg oil to Bitcoin and increase or decrease the peg depending on demand.
1611  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: 1inch Network's HW on: January 24, 2023, 05:40:29 AM
What will be your opinion about this device? Let's discuss what you like and don't like about 1inch Network hardware wallet.

I posted about 1inch hardware wallet few days ago in our local board. This is just one more shitcoin only hardware wallet that won't support Bitcoin mainnet, so I am not taking it seriously at all.


Can you post a link where it said that? It would be unwise, as a developer in crypto, to build a hardware wallet, then exclude Bitcoin.

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However, based on images and their specifications, this is probably one of the better build quality device, since it uses combination of good materials, metal steel frame, Gorilla Glass, and it's waterproof like modern smartphones.
This device will cost around $199 plus shipping, but this means nothing for me when it's not supporting Bitcoin and it would be just a waste of money.

Ledger Stax does look similar but it's more expensive and I think it's made mostly from cheap plastic like their other devices.

Another issue I have with 1inch hardware wallet is their unknown source code and information about secure elements and security, so it's probably going to be closed source.


It's not officially open/released to the public yet, I believe we should give it more time. Because that's going to be another unwise decision if they, as again developers, would make their software closed source. But if their market is the newbie-plebs during the next bull market, they might sell them in large numbers in a short amount of time. Cool
1612  Economy / Economics / Re: "Prepare for defation in 2023" on: January 24, 2023, 05:10:58 AM

--Snip--


OK, franky-101. You have already made your point. Please stop derailing the topic, and open your own and go start being a drama-queen there. I'm merely trying to make an argument that because of the tightening/QT, it might cause a delationary cycle that could start in 2023.

Plus if the deflationary cycle causes a recession by all definitions, in history, the cabal behind the Federal Reserve has always reacted exceedingly. Based on that, there might be massive QE/BRRRRR-Printing like 2008, and what did that bring to the market? Surges to ATH after ATH, a super cycle.



Quote me if I'm wrong, ignore if I'm right.
1613  Economy / Economics / Re: "Prepare for defation in 2023" on: January 23, 2023, 12:56:10 PM
topic title "in 2023"
topic post content "2023"


Get the context of what's being discussed in the topic, and stop being franky-101. You probably didn't read it with your obvious short-attention-span.

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If I'm wrong by 2025 - 2027 then remind me, if I'm right then ignore me.

"in 2023" yet now you want to sneak out of your own timescales

also.. funny thing is all your cries for last couple years about how features activated.. seems this month you finally seen the light. and have been in a topic surprisingly saying along with a couple of your chums the exact process i was describing to you for years.

but hey. seems it took you years of crying to realise it


No one is crying, franky-101, except you and your Flat-Earther friends from the Big Block World SINCE 2017. Hahaha.

you do not understand the reasons for the previous surges nor bothered to calculate their scales not understand the basics of the market window of value:premium to which the PRICE pivots INBETWEEN

if you cannot even work out the value:premium window. you have no clue to then gauge how much volatility possibility the market PRICE can then have inbetween

so instead of trying to give you suggestions to then research.. which you seem to waste years ignoring until it hits you in the face.. ill leave you to let things play themselves out and teach you a lesson the hard way. all by themselves


Don't post as if you truly know EVERYTHING behind EVERYTHING. Because, as many posters have already discovered, you have always lied especially about technical discussions about Bitcoin,

I haven't actually caught franky1 lying, what he does is to differ from many people's opinion which seems to be some general opinions. So, not joining the believe of the crowd doesn't make him a liar. And many as possible he gives detailed analysis to support his claim.

About bitcoin surge or dip, he had always maintained that for this circle, the bitcoin window is opened between $15k to $75. With due diligence, you can see how bitcoin made a u turn after testing 15k and disappointed many that waited for $10k.
I am not saying franky is always right, but give the dude some respect, he is unique and knowledgeable.


OK, we either learn the easy way, or the hard way, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192937.0

I learned the hard way.

Let's go back on-topic, or I start reporting to the mods.
1614  Other / Archival / Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] | Best Bitcoin Mixer | Low fees | Fully automated on: January 23, 2023, 12:11:50 PM
What's everyone's opinion in utilizing the Lightning Network for mixers, in both inputs and outputs? Because Lightning transactions are not broadcasted to the public, it could add another layer of privacy. It's probably also beneficial for all mixing/tumbling services to cooperate, and route through each other before routing out to another Lightning node with many routing channels. It might also perhaps "clean" the users' minds from the psychological effect of "taint".
1615  Economy / Economics / Re: Davos 2023: Saudi Arabia 'open' to discuss trading in non-dollar currencies on: January 23, 2023, 05:23:38 AM
Watch, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXH9S7PlD84

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If your country's leaders went to Davos, or ordered to send delegates to Davos, let that be a warning that they are selling/shilling something in exchange for something more advantageous, or more beneficial to the buyer. The needing party always makes the necessary sacrifices to the buying party.
1616  Economy / Economics / Re: "Prepare for defation in 2023" on: January 23, 2023, 05:12:55 AM
you do not understand the reasons for the previous surges nor bothered to calculate their scales not understand the basics of the market window of value:premium to which the PRICE pivots INBETWEEN

if you cannot even work out the value:premium window. you have no clue to then gauge how much volatility possibility the market PRICE can then have inbetween

so instead of trying to give you suggestions to then research.. which you seem to waste years ignoring until it hits you in the face.. ill leave you to let things play themselves out and teach you a lesson the hard way. all by themselves


Don't post as if you truly know EVERYTHING behind EVERYTHING. Because, as many posters have already discovered, you have always lied especially about technical discussions about Bitcoin, you have disinformed and gaslighted newbies during the Scaling Debate, everyone can see the proof in your trust-rating.

I know that what I said is debatable, but I'm merely arguing for a deflationary event followed by massive QE and a massive inflationary event when Money Printer goes BRRRRR. Bitcoin will surge, and surge like it was 2015 - 2017. If I'm wrong by 2025 - 2027 then remind me, if I'm right then ignore me.
1617  Economy / Economics / Re: how to overcome inflation for the community on: January 21, 2023, 12:57:33 PM
how to deal with inflation according to my community:

1. Save money


It actually should be the opposite during inflationary periods because prices of goods/commodities surge higher and higher. Your money is losing purchasing power.

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5. Start investing and saving


It has always been the advice of wise investors that during inflationary periods, invest in energy stocks and stocks of companies that produce food. Higher prices are always a blessing for those kinds of companies because everyone can't live without what they produce.
1618  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which indicators you use? on: January 21, 2023, 12:18:06 PM
OP, study the HODL Waves, https://www.lookintobitcoin.com/charts/hodl-waves/

Plus read this blog explaing everything, https://unchained.com/blog/hodl-waves-1/

I believe we should be encouraging "Buy the DIP and HODL", especially now that Bitcoin/altcoins is in the middle of a bear market. It's pointless to trade if plebs like us can't out-trade those people smarter than us, more hard-working than us, more capitalized than us, and with their army of trading bots.
1619  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: January 21, 2023, 07:35:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdIooHrQeK8

Watch Jaime Dimon's face while he tells everyone that Bitcoin is a "hyped up fraud", a "pet rock" that's going to ZERO. DON'T BELIEVE A WORD HE SAYS! Because behind that face is the CEO of J.P. Morgan, the bank that's buying Bitcoin for its wealthy clients. They want the price to be LOW so they can front-run YOU, the plebs. Don't let them do it, don't sell your Bitcoin to the billionaires, YOU should front-run THEM.
1620  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Miner activated hard fork (MAHF) on: January 21, 2023, 07:21:12 AM
Part of the Core Developers' argument was that it was a compromise for the block size increase, because Segwit did increase the network's capacity a little.

Sure, but the main argument for SegWit's support, was to fix the transaction malleability. This little increase in block size was rather an incident.


I was merely giving you some context when you said that Segwit wasn't relevant in scaling, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433973.msg61614604#msg61614604

In fact, it was during the Scaling Debate. It was the compromise, the trade-off.

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List of Core Developers and important people that supported Segwit and different activation methods, https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Segwit_support

I get it, almost all Core developers supported SegWit. What I'm saying is: I don't believe many of those consider voting with full nodes a wise option.


It could be debated that it wasn't wise option, but history showed the community that it was a necessary option. It was the "Ace in their sleeve", although risky.

Did you read the list? There are ten Core Developers who preferred BIP-148/UASF, found it acceptable, or wanting it.
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