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1621  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Miner activated hard fork (MAHF) on: January 20, 2023, 10:58:11 AM
I don't know what you're trying to argue, but the scaling debate was between the Core Developers who were debating for Segwit/Soft Fork, and the Big Blockers who were debating for a block size increase/Hard Fork.


Yeah, I just mean that the BIP 148 wasn't primarily for scaling purposes. The author proposed it mainly for the transaction malleability issue. The big blockers wanting block size increase was in spite of this problem.



Part of the Core Developers' argument was that it was a compromise for the block size increase, because Segwit did increase the network's capacity a little.

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Core Developers Eric Lombrozo and Luke Dashjr supported the UASF, and thought it was a necessary move to pressure the miners to activate Segwit.


They supported the soft fork, but I don't think they've ever stated that the soft fork is wise to be activated according to what most full nodes follow.


No, defintely Luke Dashjr was an ardent supporter of BIP-148/UASF, and Eric Lombrozo later showing support by wearing a UASF hat that was given by Francis Pouliot during a talk in a conference.

List of Core Developers and important people that supported Segwit and different activation methods, https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Segwit_support
1622  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Xi, Putin wants Bitcoin without wanting Bitcoin on: January 19, 2023, 12:38:20 PM
Does this have anything in common with the news of Iran and Russia trying to scheme together a gold backed shitcoin?

Source:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5435959.0

Putin obviously wants to be in control of their new crypto. As does Xi, I imagine. And there is no chance in hell they would ever be in control of Bitcoin, so there is no point in Bitcoin for them nor any other cryptocurrency which is out of their control.

Obviously this is a case of bad politicians not understanding the prerequisites of decentralized money. There is no point to using Blockchain to gain independency and freedom from third parties when there is a centralized source of control.


It's the same news, read the post when I bumped this topic, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377182.msg61609872#msg61609872

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BREAKING: Putin and Xi agreed "to set up an independent financial infrastructure to service trade between Russia and China" which will be designed to be "invulnerable" to "pressure from third parties."


https://twitter.com/chollimaorg/status/1471122707337347072



BREAKING: Satoshi Nakamoto has already invented what Putin, and Xi’s independent infrastructure to service trade between Russia, and China. Another way of saying, “we don’t want to be censored by sanctions”.

I believe it was also China itself that has proven that Bitcoin is invulnerable to pressure from third parties. Cool


But they don't want the decentralization too, so something like digital yuan or E- Ruble or something common between them for trading activities in the future.


Because Russia and China are going against the West, they actually do need decentralization and censorship-resistance, but they don't know it yet. They probably just choose to ignore Bitcoin because "reasons".

Xi and Putin turning blind eye when it's clear into their eyes what's in front of them and the solution that they're looking for.

But I guess, they don't like the name of it so they're going to make it and put their names on it as integrated countries that has partnered to build this project which is all about CBDC.

Well, maybe it's obvious that these two countries have been controversial and reported to imply ban on bitcoin for the past years.


It will merely be another permissioned ledger controlled by a centralized entity, or a federation of centralized entities. Nothing ground-breaking/nothing new, making Bitcoin more valuable from a practical standpoint.
1623  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blackjack.fun | Live tables |SLOTS| Baccarat | InstantWithraw| v3.0 Launched! | on: January 19, 2023, 12:09:36 PM


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Just sharing to give inspiration to others that has stuck big bonus in there balance. Bonus has no expiration as per admin aria. You should complete it slowly.


What casino games are you playing, how much capital are you using to clear it, and how much are your bets? I have 1.73 mBTC in my bonus wallet, with just 8.52% unlocked through playing Craps $0.50 per roll, the minimum bet. Hahaha.

It will probably be very slow clearing it, but I'm enjoying Craps during lunch breaks from work, or when I'm in the toilet doing my "business".
1624  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Xi, Putin wants Bitcoin without wanting Bitcoin on: January 19, 2023, 04:26:01 AM
Bump.

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Iran is reportedly in discussions with Russia to develop a new gold-backed stablecoin as sanctions from US and its allies amount against the two countries.

According to a report from Russian news site Vedomosti, Iran and Russia are jointly looking for a new digital format for international settlements that can operate around Western sanctions. The new “token of the Persian Gulf region” would be used as a means of payment in foreign trade settlements instead of the US dollar, the Russian ruble, or the Iranian rial.

https://financefeeds.com/iran-and-russia-are-creating-gold-backed-stablecoin/


If only there was a permissionless, decentralized ledger with its own currency that can be used both as Store Of Value and Medium Of Exchange, and the protocol can also be used as a financial network for international settlements that can go around and elude sanctions.

 Roll Eyes

How long? How long must Bitcoin run and prove itself before they accept it, and use it?

In Russia, smart people understand that the price of bitcoin is highly manipulated, so bitcoin will not be used for serious international payments. Perhaps they will allow small commercial transactions with various cryptocurrencies, but the main idea is to make an analogue of the dollar for the BRICS countries.


Perhaps not, but that's also the question. It won't matter if the price is manipulated, because technically and politically, if it gives its participants the advantage of breaking down, and weakening political strongholds implemented by the West, it probably could be a more feasible solution to their problem. I believe they have deep knowledge of Bitcoin, and that it could be useful for what they want to do, but they will never admit it.
1625  Economy / Economics / Re: Good economic news from the US, EU and China! on: January 19, 2023, 04:15:52 AM
They should stick to the plan.

Maybe they stick to the plan, but the investors have other ideas and want to do what they normally do, make a profit. Obviously, their bags are more than full and they decided to move the market in a positive direction, regardless of whether they know it can backfire on them.

One part of the article from the OP perhaps best describes the current situation:

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The market is like a child looking for ice cream. The parents say 'no', but the child continues to ask for ice cream because the parents used to give in. So the market still expects to get ice cream, but not as quickly as it thought...


In the United States, and other regions that have high inflation/price instability, that would definitely make it easier for the cabal behind Central Banks to do more rate hikes/QT. The POINT of tightening, to end inflation, is to keep removing liquidity from the system and cause a recession. The cabal would never admit that, but that's the effect of QT. It's a necessary effect to lower demand. Plus IF the Federal Reserve/Central Banks give in prematurely and actually GIVE the "children" their ice cream, it would cause higher inflation which would cause another round of QT/tightening/rate hikes.
1626  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Anyone know why FTT price started to rise just now? on: January 18, 2023, 10:52:14 AM
Anyone know why FTT price started to rise just now?

I think we should be more careful with incidents like this because who knows this is a pump-and-dump scheme by some parties to at least reduce their huge losses. Even now, the price of FTT is still very dropped and has dropped so drastically. This is proven to be a pump-and-dump scheme. pity for the people or especially those who have just been crypto and become one of the victims. I think the FTX era is over and it would be better if we stay away from related coins or projects. Not for any reason, but the logic is very real, and we don't want to put into a very big risk again.


A pump and dump scheme that's merely taking advantage of the fact that Bitcoin is surging. It would be very laughable if ANYONE who posted in the topic actually believes that FTT is a "good long term investment". The exchange is bankrupt, the owner is a fraudster, and owner's co-founders are giving the government the information needed to put him in jail.
1627  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Miner activated hard fork (MAHF) on: January 18, 2023, 10:34:53 AM

In the context of the scaling debate and the proposal of BIP-148 by Shaolinfry, full nodes = users.

BIP-148 isn't relevant with scaling, though. Did you mean another?



I don't know what you're trying to argue, but the scaling debate was between the Core Developers who were debating for Segwit/Soft Fork, and the Big Blockers who were debating for a block size increase/Hard Fork.

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Anyone can spin up a thousand nodes, BUT what matters is the economic majority which includes Bitcoin users, merchants, exchanges, services = REAL USERS that can influence Bitcoin. That's different from a mere troll who spun a thousand nodes and went to fork "his network" alone.


And I insist: is there any rational developer who ever suggested that voting with full nodes is wise?


Core Developers Eric Lombrozo and Luke Dashjr supported the UASF, and thought it was a necessary move to pressure the miners to activate Segwit.

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UASF rather sounds like it's backed by marketing.


If that's what you believe, OK. I personally believe that it was an educating, and eye-opening event in Bitcoin.

Shaolinfry's proposal for BIP-148/UASF, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1805060.0
1628  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Miner activated hard fork (MAHF) on: January 18, 2023, 07:22:25 AM
ۤThe UASF was where every belief/assumptions in the politics and incentives in protocol changed. It was also "discovered" that it's the full nodes that create the demand for what the miners produce. Blocks.

The problems start when you start separating different parts of Bitcoin network. You can't have miners without nodes and you can't have nodes without miners. If one group or a sub-group of a group starts forcing something on others, everything will start falling apart.


I believe it's part of the experiment, and I don't think everything will fall apart especially in this part of Bitcoin's evolution when the self-interest of each participant must find some balance with the interests of the group. Eventually, the participants will come into consensus to find the balance where everyone is incentivized to keep everything running, and to keep everyone participating.


The UASF was where every belief/assumptions in the politics and incentives in protocol changed. It was also "discovered" that it's the full nodes that create the demand for what the miners produce. Blocks.



The full nodes or the users? As said, anyone can spin up a thousand full nodes. I think what defines votes is purchasing power. If you own billions worth of bitcoin, you do have an opinion, because you can move a big part of the fork back to Bitcoin. (or oppositely, if you support the fork)


In the context of the scaling debate and the proposal of BIP-148 by Shaolinfry, full nodes = users.

Anyone can spin up a thousand nodes, BUT what matters is the economic majority which includes Bitcoin users, merchants, exchanges, services = REAL USERS that can influence Bitcoin. That's different from a mere troll who spun a thousand nodes and went to fork "his network" alone.
1629  Economy / Economics / Re: Good economic news from the US, EU and China! on: January 18, 2023, 07:07:05 AM
OP, it's probably not very good news in regions where there's price instability and high inflation. The growth in the stock market indicates that there's more tightening to go, and in fact, makes the Federal Reserve and the European Central Bank's jobs easier. The jobs increase also is another indication that more tightening should be done. But the cabal behind the Federal Reserve and the Central Banks are stupid, and would probably pivot prematurely. They should stick to the plan.
1630  Economy / Economics / Re: "Prepare for defation in 2023" on: January 18, 2023, 05:36:22 AM
as for the windfuryism that he thinks there will be an event of a 60x (2015:$333-2017:$20k) in 2023..


There you are again, trying to disinform and gaslight people into believing your lies. Have I said of 60x event in 2023? IN 2023? Haha. Newbies only need to look at your trust rating to know.

I said in 2023 there will be a period of deflation, which means there will be low demand and maybe NEAR ZERO interest inflation rate. How will the cabal behind the Federal Reserve react? I believe they will over-adjust like what they have done in the past, and do massive QE, which will bring Bitcoin surging like it did during 2015 - 2017, OR probably 2011 - 2013? Cool

oh you love to cry and shout gaslight even without you even using the buzzword in correct context, especially when its you that is failing to remember your own words or even do the maths of the stuff you try to imply. or even basic research on your implications..
how abut cry less. buzzword less and spend the time doing some research, calculations, and work things out for yourself

anyways
you said


 Roll Eyes

There's nothing that you can say or tell me that would remove that negative trust-rating in your profile. You brought this to yourself because you truly gaslighting people, and spread disinformation, then when it doesn't work, you start name-calling and tell lies about the person and put words in their mouths. That's franky 101. Haha.

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Prepare to experience a big surge for Bitcoin like it was 2015 - 2017 Cool

so i done the math on which you implied your expected "big surge" to be
so i said what that "big surge" was(by doing the research and math for you):
(333->20k) because thats what you said to expect this year to be like('like it was 2015-2017')
its called maths & research.
a surge from 333->20k in 2015-2017= 60x
so yes you said expect a big surge like 2015-17
so yes you implied a surge like the 60x surge of your specified date


and now you are trying to suggest that there would be a 2011-13 style surge
(facepalm)
a $0.30 -> $1200 = 4000x
or $30 -> $1200 = 40x
a $3 -> $1200 = 400x
(depending on what part of 2011 you want to include)

seriously you are trying to play the fool but then double down and double down and double down on your absent mindedness to go even further into fantasy land then pretend you never said what you said because you didnt include the simple maths you imply, even though you still made the implication.


 Roll Eyes

franky 101.

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now a lesson for you, yet again
what you are not realising is that the "surges" per cycle get less and less volatile.. not more

end of story


What you are not realising is that after the tightening and a cycle of deflation, GIGANTIC QE and expansion will be coming, another overadjustment, making everything surge like it was 2015 - 2017, or maybe 2011 - 2013? Cool

Back on topic, https://www.coxautoinc.com/market-insights/auto-market-weekly-summary-january-13/

That's probably showing that deflation is starting, no?
1631  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Xi, Putin wants Bitcoin without wanting Bitcoin on: January 17, 2023, 12:05:19 PM
Bump.

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Iran is reportedly in discussions with Russia to develop a new gold-backed stablecoin as sanctions from US and its allies amount against the two countries.

According to a report from Russian news site Vedomosti, Iran and Russia are jointly looking for a new digital format for international settlements that can operate around Western sanctions. The new “token of the Persian Gulf region” would be used as a means of payment in foreign trade settlements instead of the US dollar, the Russian ruble, or the Iranian rial.

https://financefeeds.com/iran-and-russia-are-creating-gold-backed-stablecoin/


If only there was a permissionless, decentralized ledger with its own currency that can be used both as Store Of Value and Medium Of Exchange, and the protocol can also be used as a financial network for international settlements that can go around and elude sanctions.

 Roll Eyes

How long? How long must Bitcoin run and prove itself before they accept it, and use it?
1632  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: January 17, 2023, 11:42:33 AM
I'm not very sure about this post, but I believe we might be starting to be in the part of the bear cycle when it's time to BUY EVERY DIP, and HODL. Although, I'm not very confident because of Macro Economic considerations, like Deflation, which could be coming between the start of the second half of 2023 and the end of 2023. But whatever path you decide to take in your current Bitcoin journey, DON'T BE HIM!



 Cool
1633  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Miner activated hard fork (MAHF) on: January 17, 2023, 06:48:10 AM
I personally don't accept that 10% of nodes (not miners) signalling UASF forced anything on miners.

Me neither. I don't believe there's ever been an effective UASF, generally. My understanding is this: you signal or vote for the soft fork by running a node with the according rules. My question is: what prevents you from setting up a million nodes with these rules, pretending to be a million users?


They don't have to set up a million nodes. It will depend on who is active as the Intolerant Minority, because once you have influential community members, Core Developers, and some of the popular Bitcoin merchants and exchange owners supporting the UASF, the miners must be careful. Miners are also incentivized to do what the community wants. This is debatable but I believe they will have more to lose if they are at the wrong side of the fork.

My question is: what prevents you from setting up a million nodes with these rules, pretending to be a million users?

Absolutely nothing specially since the cost is very minimal. Also this is exactly why we are using Proof of Work algorithm not something silly like Proof of Node or Stake! and we use the term "1 CPU 1 Vote" not "1 Node 1 Vote".


The UASF was where every belief/assumptions in the politics and incentives in protocol changed. It was also "discovered" that it's the full nodes that create the demand for what the miners produce. Blocks.
1634  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Anyone know why FTT price started to rise just now? on: January 17, 2023, 06:23:58 AM
Basically SOL started to pump and then we got the good news about finding all that hidden money along with a possibility of restarting the exchange so it started to pump along with SRM and FTT.

However the token has no utility anymore and will be useless. People are buying it because they think it will be used again for no maker fees but the chance of that is very low and somebody will be left holding the bag.


Solana, SRM, FTT, and all of the other shitcoins are pumping/surging merely because Bitcoin is surging. I believe OP should be asking WHY Bitcoin's price is starting to rise? Is it a mere pump, or is there probably another Chad investor from legacy who wanted to Buy the DIP, and HODL? Because there's no other reason to buy BITCOIN now except as a long term investment, and who would buy FTT as a long term investment?
1635  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Anyone know why FTT price started to rise just now? on: January 16, 2023, 12:18:55 PM
Anyone know why FTT price started to rise just now?

I'm searching on google but not found any news, not even found on any Twitter from any person related to case of ftx.

I'm asking here to know about the reason. Thanks


It's very simple. In my opinion, the most probable reason is merely always Bitcoin. Bitcoin is the Alpha to all of the other coins' Beta. Many shitcoins surge when Bitcoin surges, and many of them crash when Bitcoin crashes. It's very rare to see an altcoin/shitcoin that surges while Bitcoin is crashing, BUT it's not very rare to see Bitcoin surge while many altcoins/shitcoins are crashing. Cool
1636  Economy / Economics / Re: Reserve Bank of India Governor Calls for an Outright Crypto Ban on: January 16, 2023, 12:06:23 PM
CBDCs are just fiat that claims to use blockchain technology, but they are fiat. They offer no value more than fiat.

I hope indian government will not be very stupid to leave cryptocurrencies and ban it. The reserve bank of India governor is only self-centered but he is just a single person. Single person can not ban cryptocurrencies when the citizens likes it. He wants ban of what the government sees as a means of getting more tax.

Te reserve bank of India governor see crypto as gambling, he should propose ban of gambling in India too.


It's laughable because the Cat is out of the bag/the Padora's Box is already open. The government can't do anything about the situation whether they ban it or not.

Central Banks don't like to evolve and enter a new age of free banking through cryptocurrencies. They are threatened, and through CBDC they probably believe that they can maintain their role as "central banks". OK, perhaps, but how would that stop Bitcoin?
1637  Economy / Economics / Re: "Prepare for defation in 2023" on: January 16, 2023, 07:38:45 AM
How would we plebs know? We wouldn't until recession comes and demand goes down, and if I'm wrong then I'm wrong. But wait until the end of 2023. Cool

I "know" (and yeah I don't, I agree we have to wait) in the sense that overadjustment would have shown itself already, that's not something that gradually happens, if it's gradually going down, then we could stop that too and make it stay right where it suppose to. Did inflation go up slowly? No, when it happened it was suddenly a ton of issues right as soon as they printed it, and that means deflation would be similar as well in that sense.


Do you disagree to the fact that inflation is a, and has always been, a "monetary phenomenon"? I'm truly confused what your viewpoint is, if you can post it with a clearer context, then maybe I could deliver my own viewpoint.

Plus I'm merely talking in a historical sense. The cabal behind the Federal Reserve/other central banks have been incompetent, their policies have been causing the economic boom, bust cycles.

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I don't know what you mean when you post about "2019", BUT we have seen a massive overadjustment by Central Banks during 2020 when the COVID-19 Pandemic/Lockdowns happened all around the world. The Central Banks pumped so much money into the system which caused high inflation. They said it was transitory, but we knew it wasn't.


The idea about 2019 was that, 2023 will be similar to 2019 in the economical sense, do you agree that 2020 and 2021 and 2022 was a bad year?


What is the "economical sense"? I don't understand.

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Do you agree that 2019 was better than all those years and yet not so great like we were buying houses like we bought candy? Well, that's where we will go back to. Better than 2020-2022 period but not too great.


For your information QE started probably during 2008 which gave the system so much liquidity that credit was easy to make people buy houses "like candy", with some minor QT in between, until during the fourth quarter of 2021 when the Federal Reserve announced that they would do massive QT because inflation wasn't actually transitory.

It wasn't because people were rich that made them buy house like candy, it was because it was easy to get a mortgage because liquidity was high. Ask those people who bought houses, "like candy", how they're mortgages are today.
1638  Other / Archival / Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] | Best Bitcoin Mixer | Low fees | Fully automated on: January 16, 2023, 05:29:45 AM
I don't use yet but I will do it asap when I got the salary.

I have the question?

1. Can I use YoMix with VPN on clearnet browser?.
2. what is Mixing code?, Can I mix without use the code?

[snip]

3. I've used mixer, I usually did on chipmixer, I don't know how possible if Yomix any feature we can use for free without a fee like chipmixer?

4. is transfer delay will affect our anonymity? the longer the delay, the more anonym we can get?.


1. Can't see why not.

2. Explained in FAQs:

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After first mixing at [banned mixer] you will receive a unique code. With help of this code, we guarantee that you will never receive your own coins from previous transactions. Simply use this code for all your future mixing orders.


3. Mixing comes at a cost. There must be some fees, otherwise the business is not viable. If you ever see a mixing service that it's 100% free - steer clear, they're probably will take your coins or are some sort of honey pot. Maybe with exception of some promotional periods etc.

4. Yes. The greater the delay, the greater the layer of privacy. It'd probably be worth it to put that in FAQs as well.


It would also probably be worth using different amounts of transfer delay to confuse blockchain scanners/analysis, or bad-actors that have been following your Bitcoin activity. Plus using a randomized amount of onchain transaction fees might probably help too, especially if you're using Electrum or other SPV wallets. We can't truly be sure if the node we have connected to is trustworthy.
1639  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Miner activated hard fork (MAHF) on: January 16, 2023, 05:06:12 AM

SegWit is an example of UASF.

Wrong. BIP148, commonly known as UASF, made a lot of noise on social media but no real momentum in real life. It had very little node support and even less miners support. SegWit on the other hand had much more support and it was activated through another proposal known as SegWit2x although the 2x part of it (hard fork to double the weight limit) never gained any support so that part failed.

Is there a place where we, Bitcoiners post block wars, can read about this important part of the history? As far as I know, Segwit was user-activated, and miners followed.


Read Aaron Van Wirdum's depiction in "The Long Road to Segwit". I believe it's one of the most accurate retelling on what truly happened, and it also gives everyone the context of WHY and what caused those events to happen. Although the Flat-Earthers/Anti-Core trolls/gaslighters of Bitcoin would tell you that that information is blasphemous.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/the-long-road-to-segwit-how-bitcoins-biggest-protocol-upgrade-became-reality

In fact, everyone should read all of Aaron Van Wirdum's writings. Cool
1640  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Miner activated hard fork (MAHF) on: January 14, 2023, 11:40:31 AM
SegWit is an example of UASF.

Wrong. BIP148, commonly known as UASF, made a lot of noise on social media but no real momentum in real life. It had very little node support and even less miners support. SegWit on the other hand had much more support and it was activated through another proposal known as SegWit2x although the 2x part of it (hard fork to double the weight limit) never gained any support so that part failed.


It was called the "Intolerant Minority", mentioned many times as a game-theoretical idea that a minority could force the miners to activate Segwit. It's debatable that UASF was "nothing", because it wasn't just "nothing". It had its role in the activation of Segwit. Eric Lombrozo and Luke Dashjr supported it.

What was truly nothing was the 2X part. It probably had only verbal support from the signers of the New York Agreement, the fork that had very very little support/no support. In fact it was rejected by the community, plebs, influential Bitcoin people, and some Core Developers. The code for "bc1" was also buggy.
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