I would say that he is doing very well, but if he continues like this, I believe that there is still room for him to surpass himself. The only question is whether the OP is a troll, or if he really has serious problems with understanding the world around him.


Especially because of the "crime" the OP is talking about - because in that case China should seek the extradition of millions of people who criticize them or even enable their residents to bypass the Chinese firewall when it comes to the internet.

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Maybe you learned something from all this, and maybe you got a very cheap life lesson, considering that the amount doesn't seem to be a problem for you. So in the future, if something is not clear to you, first come to the forum and ask - and if you had done that, you wouldn't be talking about this now.

Furthermore, I hope you learned not to buy something you haven't seen, and that from complete strangers who also ask you to pay with Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. Bitcoin is a great thing, but only for those who know how it works - and that scammer of yours is obviously very well acquainted with what you still haven't learned.

Unfortunately, this is true and the world is turning into a place where any different (critical) thinking is taken as something negative. Even that famous CEO Pascal says that everyone who speaks negatively about the Recover service is actually doing nothing but spreading FUD.


Or maybe they've already made so much money that they don't care how the whole thing ends - and if the company fails in the future, they'll blame the people who didn't understand their genius. Your calculation definitely makes sense, and considering that the average user will most likely pay $9.99 a month to feel safe, Ledger would still be able to continue doing business.


In some countries, they enabled profile sharing with the condition that you pay extra for that option - in some other countries, they went in the other direction and even reduced package prices, but did not enable profile sharing even with an additional fee. Allegedly, the results of the new business strategy are more than good, and another streaming service has announced that it will introduce the same measure from the beginning of next year (D+).

You hit the point, and there is really nothing more to say, at least not for those who are not big fans of the great crypto messiah who is trying (obviously successfully) to sell them general knowledge as something of his own. This is the same man who claims that 99% of people involved in "crypto" will lose their digital assets because they store them in non-custodial wallets.

The man literally claims that 99% of these people are stupid, and I think it's stupid to trust such a man.

All those who get information from such bad sources do not deserve to have something good happen to them. From some other sources, it seems that someone from their team made very nice money, and the apology is free anyway.


https://twitter.com/rollbitcom/status/1713919556568113503

When I just remember that that news portal paid members of this forum to shill links and that we barely got rid of them, and today they have become some kind of source of "crypto news", then I am not surprised that so many people are ill-informed and completely lost. My advice is not to follow them anymore, and not to post their links on the forum.

There is always the possibility that something positive will happen, but also that something negative will happen that will affect the price of BTC. Yesterday, the price briefly flew towards $30k because some amateurs announced that the SEC approved a spot ETF from BlackRock, which of course was fake news. If fake news has such an effect, one only has to wonder what will happen if at some point such news appears that will be true.

Investing in BTC is always risky, not only because of the price, but also because of the way someone stores such sensitive data. However, as the old saying goes, "he who does not take risks, does not profit", it is up to each individual what he will do with his money.

I already mentioned to you that it would not be bad if you look for a better paid campaign, you are a solid poster and you are active on the forum, why not take advantage of that?

Don't be naive, the fact that they only recently announced that they will enable such an option, does not mean that this option did not exist in the past - and considering that their devices are not completely open source, no one could know if it was possible to extract the seed from the device. Their CEO confirmed that everything is based on trust, that is, that the whole thing is whether we believe that the company will not do something bad, regardless of whether there is (or not) the possibility that some feature will be misused in some way by someone who will get access to their systems.

I would not agree that @Pmalek is not familiar with the recover option, because all those links you posted have long been in the topic : Ledger Recovery - Send your (encrypted) recovery phrase to 3rd parties entities

When someone trusts that source, he gets exactly what he was looking for, which is fake news or a poorly written article. It seems to me that someone from that team did it on purpose and made good money, and all that nonsense about the investigation is only for naive people who believe in fairy tales.

If it happens that the SEC approves such an ETF for anyone, be sure that you won't read it first on some third-rate portal that doesn't know how to produce anything other than clickbait titles.

I am surprised that you start a topic like this without checking the facts, and they say the following:

The price of gold in the last 7 days is up an incredible 3.44%, and the price of BTC in the same period is only 2.47% - where do you see any significant difference in this that is worth discussing?


Unfortunately, I don't believe that this is possible considering that you asked similar questions in the past and did not take all the answers into account. It is completely pointless to compare gold and Bitcoin, you should have learned that a long time ago.

I won't say that you won't find some good, honest and informative videos on YT, but I think that there are very few of them and that it is quite easy to get lost in the pile of videos that the OP is talking about. Maybe it would be better if you start reading about some basic things instead of videos, and I think it's much easier to filter such content.

To begin with, I would recommend you to visit - > https://bitcoin.org/en/ and to pay special attention to the section called Resources.

As others have already written, rumors say that such investors still choose custody options that are supposedly based on cold wallets and therefore should be beyond the reach of hackers - and most CEXs claim that only a small part of the cryptocurrencies they keep for their clients is in hot wallets.

I would conclude that large and ordinary investors consider CEX as some kind of crypto bank, which of course does not make much sense when it comes to Bitcoin. Although such funds are always at risk, perhaps considering the knowledge of these people, it is a safer option than non-custodial wallets. Being your own bank is not easy and carries with it great risks, and sometimes it is much easier to leave those risks to others.

No matter how we look at this question, the fact is that there is only one correct answer - that regardless of the custody storage method, the well-known saying "not your keys, not your coins" still applies.

The halving never caused the price to rise instantly, it happened only after 6+ months, and it is possible that there won't be a significant bull run until Q4 2024. However, I do not see it as unrealistic (or impossible) that we have a pre-halving effect that could perhaps cause a 25% to 50% price increase before April 2024. Anyone who invests today and gets the opportunity to earn 100% after 1 year should be happy if that happens, but if they don't want to risk it, keep the money in the bank or under the mattress.


Halving is something that is definitely happening, but don't forget the possible approval of the spot BTC ETF in the US that can happen in the next few months, and most experts think that it will resonate very positively. In combination with the halving, it could very easily increase the price by at least x2 or more compared to the last ATH - which means that we could be talking about a price of $150k for 1 BTC sometime in late 2024 or 2025.

Before you write something, it would be wise to check the historical facts, because what you claim is simply not true. Each of the posts in question could have been created with the help of AI, because at that time they existed and were publicly available.

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That's true (for now), and while I agree that one should always be careful when someone is accused of using AI for their posts, in some cases it's even more obvious that someone is using just such tools - especially if it's beginners, or when the quality of someone's posts improves dramatically overnight.

So far (as far as I know) no HW company has been part of a scandal that involved seed being compromised in a way that could be hacked remotely/online, but Ledger will go down in history as the first company to allow hackers that possibility. Although I generally agree that leaking seeds/private keys is a complete disaster financially, sometimes leaking data that includes the physical addresses of HW customers can have even more serious consequences, because apart from what you have stored on HW, you can endanger the life of yourself and your family.

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I wonder how likely it is that something like that would happen and do you think that someone from that company or some hacker would do it? However, I think that the majority of people who buy such HW are not so naive as to fall for such a trick.


For those extra paranoid, maybe even that wouldn't be enough, but it's certainly better than the option of completely trusting only one manufacturer.

I do not doubt the data you presented at all, because I know that they are facts, and considering that I live in the EU, I know what the situation is regarding the availability of work and unemployment. What I want to refer to are precisely these work permits and the import of (mostly cheap) labor which, on the one hand, meets the need for labor which is simply not there in some countries, but on the other hand, all these people have a very difficult time adapting to our local societies, and in a certain percentage represent a great security risk.

The example of France, Germany or Sweden speaks for itself when it comes to such migrations, and the disastrous demographic policy in many countries does not work for us at all - while one of the EU demography commissioners (from my country) talks about how the solution for that problem is in African countries.

I do not think that this is even close to the solution we should strive for, because although we solve the problem in the short term, in the long term we risk huge cultural and social problems with such a policy.

If we start from the fact that most people invest in Bitcoin exclusively for profit, then there is no doubt that any significant price increase results in a certain sales pressure, which again can mostly be amortized with increased demand due to the appearance of new investors who will be carried away by the FOMO wave.

You should also take into account the fact that a large amount of BTC is in the possession of investors who have kept it for more than 5 years and bought it at significantly lower prices than is the case today, and considering that $100k is a very nice and round number, many have it as an exit point - especially those who dream of becoming millionaires and have at least 10 BTC at the moment.

It would therefore be logical to expect that the selling pressure will be much greater than before when a new big bull run starts, and we should not ignore institutional investors who will be looking for their opportunity for profit.

As for the halving and the price change, I don't believe that anything positive will happen right away - and maybe even a slight drop will happen, which will be precisely caused by your way of thinking. What I want to say is that too many people see the halving as some kind of magical trigger that automatically raises the price, but the matter is much more complicated.

Every year they make a new report, but they still don't say anything new except for repeating worn-out phrases and trying to cause FOMO. In addition, when I see that someone is speculating about the price of BTC and also gives a specific price that is not rounded for some reason, it convinces me even more that they are pulling these numbers out of a hat, and not from some serious analysis.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422764.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389589.0

The price is really around that amount (even a little more) with the addition that the costs of sending the package should be added to the total price. However, I don't think that amount should be an obstacle for anyone who has any amount of BTC that they feel is of great value to them. For some it may be 1 BTC, for others it may be half as much, but considering the security provided by the device, it is a small price to pay.

Of course, when we buy things like this online, we should always keep in mind what happened with the Ledger database, and avoid such a situation in the future. This means either buying the device directly in a physical store and paying in cash, or using a PO box.

There is another option, and that is if you have someone who travels to the US to buy you that device, you save some money and don't have to worry about possible data leaks and privacy threats.

You may have seen the picture I posted in one of the threads that the OP started on the same topic - and when you mention that RFK Jr. is cute, then what can be cuter than this picture - everyone who has dogs and turtles will vote for him

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As for those people who still think that Bitcoin can change the world on a fundamental level, I wonder if they will ever come to their senses or will continue to live in illusions forever

Honestly, when you were the first to write about it, it seemed to me that it was something quite harmless that would be very easily detected and that it would be treated as plagiarism on the forum. Since then, AI Chat has really improved, so today we read how various books, pictures or even movie scripts are being investigated due to the suspicion that they are not the work of humans.

From what can be seen in various threads in which posts are published that are suspected to be the product of AI, it seems to me that this thing has spread like a plague on the forum and that only a small part manages to be detected, and an even smaller part results with a punishment.


You're welcome - , because it is good to remember that the discussion about this problem existed years ago, and I think that things were already quite clear when it came to the use of this technology on the forum.