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1141  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 30-Mar-2017] on: April 01, 2017, 09:00:39 AM
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1142  Other / Meta / Re: New Badges on: April 01, 2017, 08:56:43 AM
But seriously, how do we get customized badges after the April Fool's? I know this will be gone by tomorrow but it's kinda cute though. Wink
1143  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is bitcoin worth? Welcome to discuss on: March 30, 2017, 04:42:35 PM
Investors and nonprofessional people have different thinking about bitcoin. But in my thinking now bitcoin is still worth-able and its price groow above $1000. So we have no argue to discuss about bitcoin price value. In my eyes, bitcoin already achieved a successful place and now it is depend on ourself how we gain and make profit from bitcoin.   
Succesfull for a currency in my perspective is not determined on how much the coin's value is, but how's its coverage and usage in this world. It's no use if there's some altcoins which have overwhelming value but only be used among communities which coverage is low. It's ain't real currency but more likely a valuable digital properties.
right , you can see there's altcoin named bitcoinplus and looks onfire in the last few days have a value 0.004 jump to 0.12 within a day but dropped again to 0.03 in the same day. why it's happened? the community/user come to take advantage only , while in bitcoin it has well established enough compared to other cryptocurrency and people make it as future investment plan. 100% agree with you.

Nope, you are wrong, most people are trading altcoin just to get fast income like gambling itself. When the coin is being pumped it will skyrocketting so your profit will be double or even triple. Mean while bitcoin itself is not fully investment or trading. That is why we can see some fluctuation sometime which is profitable for the one that trade it daily. But still it is worth to do altcoin, the problem is you need to choose which coin is going to be pumped

But what do you suggest bitcoin fully is? Bitcoin might not be full an investment for trading but it mostly is. If we use bitcoin only as a currency and not an investment, there will be a very low market cap because not everyone will be interested. People are here because of bitcoin's volatility and anyone can make money from bitcoin by just buying at the right price or by holding for a long time.

Personally, I'm not even using bitcoins that much. Only some occasional "I want to buy something online" stuffs because there's not that much merchants that accept bitcoins as of today. But I still have bitcoins because I'm waiting for the price to increase anymore, thus, I'm usnig bitcoins as investment.
1144  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: March 30, 2017, 04:32:08 PM
I think its right time to sell since markets have being puzzling a lot . reaching 1200+ and coming below 800 and again above 1000$ should be a good time to sell and hold back for further dips and buy on dips again.

If only it's that simply. What has happened in the past might not repeat at all. The price went to $1200 and then went down but that doesn't mean that at the next time we reach 1200$, the price will go down again. There might be some pattern that has occurred, but what are the chances of that happening once more?

There will be dips in the future but we don't know at what price. The price can increase more and go to $1300, and then the dip will be $1100. When that happens, then you just lost money because you sold your bitcoins at $1000 (today's price). That is why ultimately you shouldn't sell your bitcoins at all unless you're a trader. Selling bitcoins right now makes you lose the opportunity to sell at an even higher price.
1145  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you think is a good time to start trading ? on: March 30, 2017, 04:08:32 PM
Gaining more knowledge is important than participating in trading because without any knowledge it is a waste of the money. You need to act according to market otherwise you will loose your money.

But just reading more and more about trading without participating in trading at all can sometimes be hard as well. You should try out the stuffs that you've been reading about in actual trading to actually learn. Just imagine someone reading about computer stuffs without ever having any hands-on experience with an actual computer. It's hard to learn that way. There are sites where you can do demo trading but I recommend whaleclub.co because the chart is based on real time bitcoin's price. So it would look like you are actually trading bitcoins.
1146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Great way to make Bitcoin! on: March 30, 2017, 03:57:57 PM
I am making good amount of bitcoins from trading altcoins as altcoin involves major pumps and dumps so I never miss the right time to buy and sell them as I am into trading since long time so its generating good profits for me on regular basis.
How do you know wich altcoin to invest in? I've seen ethereum just went to the sky, but I find it hard finding out when they rise, and also wen you should sell.

You know which altcoin to invest in when people are talking about it a lot. For example, BCU. Although there's not that much actual supporter behind it but mostly whales that invested millions for the coin, if you've heard that BCU is about to go out of exchanger you'll know that it will increase in price because everyone's talking about it on twitter. Even though most people are talking how bitcoin will never have fork or whatever, it still caused hyped to the BCU coin.

In altcoins in general, people say that they actually analyze the chart. I don't know the complete guide to saying "Oh, this coin is gonna be poppin'." But hype is the only thing that increases the price most of the time and not the altcoin's usability or utility.

In fact, I don't think anyone even knows when are altcoins going to rise. Some people are just able to determine that the coin will rise eventually, but there's no time frame. Others set a price and then sell all of their coins at that price all at once. While others set different sell orders like 1/4 for 1000 satoshi, 1/4 for 1300, and then the remaining 1/2 for 1500 satoshis.
1147  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is bitcoin worth? Welcome to discuss on: March 29, 2017, 02:54:11 PM
Investors and nonprofessional people have different thinking about bitcoin. But in my thinking now bitcoin is still worth-able and its price groow above $1000. So we have no argue to discuss about bitcoin price value. In my eyes, bitcoin already achieved a successful place and now it is depend on ourself how we gain and make profit from bitcoin.   
Succesfull for a currency in my perspective is not determined on how much the coin's value is, but how's its coverage and usage in this world. It's no use if there's some altcoins which have overwhelming value but only be used among communities which coverage is low. It's ain't real currency but more likely a valuable digital properties.
right , you can see there's altcoin named bitcoinplus and looks onfire in the last few days have a value 0.004 jump to 0.12 within a day but dropped again to 0.03 in the same day. why it's happened? the community/user come to take advantage only , while in bitcoin it has well established enough compared to other cryptocurrency and people make it as future investment plan. 100% agree with you.

How about when the price of bitcoin reached $1200 and then it went back to $200? Maybe it didn't happen in the same day, but it did happen. It's the people realizing the actual worth of what they bought. At that time, bitcoin was starting to get so hyped up that people are buying and buying more bitcoins. And then when the hype was over, there's not that much support going in (unlike now when bitcoin starts to go down, some people are preventing it to go down even more by buying or by putting a huge sell order at a certain price) so the price went back down to $200.

That's just how all of these cryptocurrencies get a much higher price anyway. Because of the hype.
1148  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HOW MUCH YOU EARN/LOSE FROM TRADING on: March 29, 2017, 02:36:52 PM
Has any reliable member here made a good guide for newbies? I prefer reading guides you guys here would recommend rather than go around googling on my own. I practically clueless and wouldn't be able to distinguish bad from good advise.

In the sticky thread of Beginners and Help board, you'll see this post. But the only thing that mentioned trading there is this thread (A warning about altcoins) You should totally check out Google. There are many blogsites out there that have the niche of altcoin trading. From there, you'll see different techniques for trading.

Experience is the best teacher and you should check out https://whaleclub.co/ when you want to try out the trading techniques that you just learned. It is based on real time bitcoin to USD trading and some other currencies.
1149  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: March 29, 2017, 02:26:10 PM
I don't think ETF don't affect the price of bitcoins because all i see is a big drop of bitcoins price on rejection of ETF but in any way bitcoins will go again and continue soon to rise with or without ETF . So you do trade and it is good as of now because most of the altcoins are being pump for the mean time . So both is good as we hold some BTC to wait and some amount to invest in trade.

After the decision that ETH was disapproved was announced, there was no sudden big drop in the price of bitcoin. What caused this huge drop in the bitcoin price is the Bitcoin unlimited thing, AKA the hard fork drama. But right now, we're starting to get back on track because there's no actual market for the BCU tokens at all. The whole thing was just created by FUD, panic sellers, wannabe early investors and so on.

Now the price of BCU is starting to go down, because you know. Not everyone's interested at all. I pity those people that announced how many thousand dollars they invested for BCU. Grin
1150  Economy / Economics / Re: why is it so hard to buy bitcoin on: March 29, 2017, 01:32:42 PM
I have not really bought any bitcoin in a while, i have been mostly trading this last year.  but i have been trying to buy today from localbitcoins and bittylicious and it has been a real challenge.  they want photos of me holding cards on localbitcoins and on bitty they need about 4 different forms of id, what is going on. 

this is seriously restrictive to anyone wanting to get into bitcoin,  like its meant to be pseudonymous but if the gate ways into bitcoin dont allow that people will be put off.    Huh
Bitcoin can be buy and sel to our market. It is hard to buy for the consequences that not easy to trade in dollar specially when prices decrease. In case of emergency then btc is low so you can't get a profit. The aiming to buy btc is to trade in local currency when it is high value or to make sure that they have a profit. Buyers want to buy if btc is low then thay save it until exchanges increase.


Buying BTC for local currency is too expensive, the exchanges will charge high amount of transaction fee. But making Bitcoin with any other work is easy. I never bought Bitcoin for fiat currency. I earned coins with my hard work. With that bitcoin, i did small trading and made a small profit. I don't like to invest my real money in Bitcoin.

It depends on what exchange are you using and what type of payment are you going to choose. Like in the local exchange that we have. If you choose bank transfer to buy bitcoins, there's no fee at all and for some other banks, the fee is very little. And then there's a partnership going on with the local exchange and a convenience store that's all around the country. The fee is about 30%-35% of the amount that you are buying. That is quite a fee to me as well.
1151  Economy / Economics / Re: The dream of getting rich with bitcoins on: March 29, 2017, 01:15:58 PM
If you buy Bitcoins at a lower price and sell them at a higher price, then you can get rich. You can either trade day by day, or invest in Bitcoins and save them till the price goes up.

Uhmm. No. Grin

Supposed for example I bought 10 bitcoins at $1000. And I sold them at a higher price which is $1001, I'm rich already? I don't think so. Where trading will take you depends on the amount of money you invested all in all and how much gains you have. Simply saying "buy low, sell high and Ta dah! You're rich" is correct only on a higher degree.

If you are going to trade everyday, I suggest that you look up altcoins as well. It's not every day that there's a good movement with the bitcoin market. Or you can do both. Hold bitcoins for a long time and then day trade altcoins. It all depends on you.
1152  Economy / Economics / Re: How is the capital found? on: March 28, 2017, 05:07:41 PM
If you believe that you have a good idea or something different, you can post your project on some sites where you might attract some investors to your idea, this is the best way to launch a startup and grow it.

That's just going to work out (most of the time) if you have some really bad-ass idea. But if you're going to set up a coffee shop or something that's really common, people aren't going to invest in your project. You will have better chances of getting a capital from bank loans whereas you have to show them business plan. This way, not only you'll get a capital, you will also get some "consultation" or some opinion about your business if it's going to work out or not. Those people that are in the banks aren't new to that thing so they know what's a good business and what is not. So, if you didn't get accepted, your business will probably not work out anyway.
1153  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: In what situation would Bitcoin die? on: March 28, 2017, 04:55:31 PM
:)If people lose faith in the security of the network for one reason or another then bitcoin could die. no matter how many times i look at the numbers i always have this idea in my head that an address could finally be cracked with a super computer ie one of satoshis old addresses, this would obviously be catastrophic . Maybe after years of not achieving mass adoption price will slowly taper off and die, to me this is the most likely case.
For your info, super computer is not available in the market only few organization have this AFAIK, NASA have one of it and it is impossible for to use it just to crack satoshi wallet address. Bitcoin will dead once the government of all over the globe was completely control it.

I really doubt that the government all around the world cares about what bitcoin is. Some might not even heard of it yet. Maybe the major countries but I still doubt it because they still have issues against each other. But I guess if bitcoin becomes so mainstream that it starts getting rid of fiat and countries are starting to have problems with taxation, bitcoin will become a common enemy to the nations. And when that happens, the countries might unite and fight it.
1154  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: March 28, 2017, 04:45:05 PM
Bitcoin is only a little portion of the amount of money that is outside in the world today. We have USD, JPY, CHF, etc bills that are all circulating in the world so if we combine that all together then Bitcoin at $10,000 per coin shouldn't be that much of an issue.
There is also the other Currencies that were used before the newer ones was published so there is plenty of fiat to go around if the price does get to $10,000 per coin.

Crypto's will never replace fiat even bitcoin reach high value. Fiat circulatingall over the world is very huge amount compared to the total volume bitcoin available, unless bitcoin will be accepted by the government, then there is possibility to replace by bitcoin so that their will be 1 currency on the world and easy to trade

Yes that is true, because cryto is based on bitcoin price, whether bitcoin price is drop the altcoin will high of course and it will be the same thing too on bitcoin which is based on dollars too. And btw why do you think that bitcoin will be accepted by government? I do not think they can even control it if they have all their tech

But the value of fiat doesn't move that much. So it's not exactly the same with the if bitcoin increases, altcoin decreases scenario. There are also some coins that don't depend solely on the price of bitcoin like ETH. Most major coins are like this. You can trade it to BTC or to USD but the rest of the altcoin family are just traded to BTC.
1155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if BTC was Banned? on: March 28, 2017, 04:36:06 PM
If bitcoin completely gets banned in future then I think it will create an havoc in the minds of the people and will loose all their money and it will be very hard for those who have invested huge amount of money and it may even make them bankrupt and will become difficult for them to survive.
but i do not think that bitcoin will ever banned. Because the users of bitcoin are continously increasing and therefore bitcoin is becoming more and more powerful and reliable. i am hopeful that in future the governments are going to turn bitcoin as a legal currency.
Now the [1]Bitcoin is becoming more popular in digital currency world. [2]But it's not possible to give assurance that the bitcoin will not ban in all country it may be happening in future, or it will become a legal currency in future. Anything can happen. [3]If the Bitcoin ban people will use another currency to replace this currency that's it. Begining we face some problems, but later onwords we cvan adjust to other currency.

[1] Since bitcoin is the first cryptocurrency, it will always be popular. Even if it gets replaced by a different cryptocurrency, it will still be remembered and it will always be a part of history.

[2] Or nothing will happen at all. Think about it, if the governments ban bitcoins, it will lead to even more users.

[3] I think if we were able to think about that, so can the government. They will probably ban the use of any digital currency that is not issued by the government. But I'm pretty sure that not all governments will act on that because not every government will have an issue about bitcoin and not all nations will be full of bitcoin users.
1156  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: March 28, 2017, 04:12:53 PM
Hey I just want to clarify how can Trading Altcoins be a quick solution for money problems? Because it says here that you need to have assurance that you will get that money. Trading however involves a lot of risk and a lot of people have failed already trying to take profit from their trades. What I mean is that Trading cannot be a solution for a desperation in money.

I agree 100% with you. A lot of the noobs posting here think that trading is some magic bullet. That is not the case. Altcoin trading is just like gambling. It can become addictive, and in 90% of the cases, you are likely to lose your investment. In the past, I have done altcoin trading. I had mixed fortunes with it. But now, I have gained more experience, and I have vowed that I will never do trading again.

I have no experience of trading in alternative coins. But I'd like to try. But I'm frightened by what you say about addiction. Is that really true?
I would not like to lose my coins, I just want to earn

Well if you are addicted in altcoin trading, then that must be a good thing because you are getting tons of experiences. But if you're just buying and buying coins without doing research or without having any plans at all, then you might as well be gambling in some casino because you are relying on luck and nothing else.

The huge advantage of trading over gambling is the fact that you can learn from it. As time pass by, it becomes easier and easier for you to classify which ones are good coins and which ones aren't.
1157  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why should people use Bitcoin? on: March 27, 2017, 10:54:59 AM
Gamblers use bitcoin for not giving any identification document and can do gambling in any age, online job seekers use bitcoin as payment for job, so their are so many ways for people to use bitcoin.

Those are already why people are using bitcoins not why they should use bitcoins. Btw, online job seekers usually use Paypal because it's much easier to use if you're not tech savvy since you just link your bank account and then issue a payout.


Once you deposit money in banks the money is not your anymore. You are giving the money to your bank with a promise they will give you back anytime you want. People are interested to use bitcoin to have a complete control over their money, without the limitations banks have

That's also another way to look at online wallets that don't give out private keys. There's no contract or anything that has happened between the online wallet and you. Once you deposit money, and then they stop paying out people, you will be begging them to give your very own money. Use desktop wallet so you get full access to your wallet, everyone.
1158  Economy / Economics / Re: Future of Bitcoin Economics on: March 27, 2017, 10:44:21 AM
Some comments are very optimistic, that's what I noticed first. My opinion about bitcoin future is divided, I would like to cost more and to be adopted in the world, but how can that happen? I'm not familiar with potential of bitcoin even many here talk about it. Close friends don't wish nothing with bitcoins, and that push me away when I wish to invest in bitcoin, I think that many feel's like I do.
It does not matter what your friends think of the bitcoin and whether they want to invest in it or not, you should do what you think is right, if you think that bitcoin is a good investment and it has potential like everyone claims then go ahead and invest, many people don’t realize the fact that bitcoin can improve their financial state.

Because they don't know how to or they are too lazy to find out how bitcoins can free you from poverty. If everyone is claiming that something is good (and I'm saying this in general, not just bitcoins in particular), you will probably find it good as well. We're not some special snowflake that despise things.

I told my friend back then that bitcoins released me from poverty. He was all like "Meh. Okay dafuq. What a scammer". I was so disappointed in them that I just continued doing my thing. After a couple of months, I started to buy the things that I want although I can already afford it for a long time (like, months ago when I started bitcoins). And then all of a sudden, they got interested about bitcoins.

From a google quote: "First they laugh, then they copy." That's exactly what happened to me.  Cool
1159  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: March 27, 2017, 10:34:50 AM
i think if u're in emergency, ask for your relatives, cause u're no money and the way to earn fast is investment.

Thats the best thing you can do, ask to your relatives, they can provide you to what you really need especially when it is urgent financial problem. And after you need to find work to pay them back.


Borrowing from friends and family is the best option if you need money desperately as they are the people who trust you and can understand your difficulty and urgency and can help you in your tough times but you have to make sure that you return them back on time or else it can also spoil your relations with them.
and if your friend refuse to give me any money, as if he do not have such amount at that time. therefore to me i think the best option is to have some extra money saved in your account which you can use in disparate need.
The friends and family will support you only if they know that you are wealthy and sooner you will come in a condition to be able to pay back their money and if they will know that you are not much stronger and it will be hard for you to provide back that money then they will not help you even if they have that amount with them.

Funny because that's how the banks work. "I'll loan you money but only if you can prove that you can pay later." Unlike that, your friends and your family most of the time don't mind when are you going to pay. But you should pay them no matter what. In my country, getting a loan is so rampant that it becomes an issue sometimes. They get a loan from someone and then get a loan to another person just to pay the loan from the previous person. This is a bad practice because you get more and more loans and the interest is becoming compounded.
1160  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: March 27, 2017, 10:25:55 AM
If you are an old guy, use your money for your children's education.
If you are young, use your money for your education.
Education is really important for everybody. When we read these news from Bitcoin, we also educate ourselves. We learn something. However, knowledge from specific area is different. For example, when a man who is economists writes a paragraph in this forum, we can see a different perspective.
All of these acquisitions come back yourselves as intellectuality and money.

Yes, investing in education is very wise. This will allow you to find ways to earn even more money.
In addition, will provide knowledge in the field of investment and help to manage your finances properly

Education has become an business nowadays and education is also an basic necessity for any individual as the big companies will entertain him only if he holds valid degree and the fact is only rich people can afford admission in those reputed colleges and poor guys will keep on struggling as they cannot afford that high fees.

And we are not talking about prestige, but about real knowledge. To become a wise person it is enough to read books and be able to analyze them. Everyone has access to the Internet, and there's just an ocean of information. If you want, you can get all
Both of your arguments are right. Unfortunately, if you did not graduate from any university, nobody cares you, even if you are very knowledgeable about something, so being a rich is a destiny. However, this argument is based on centralized system. We are talking about Bitcoin which is decentralized. How can we earn more money with Bitcoin? At this point, being an educated person and being a knowledgeable person are the same. People should search every information, and learn them. They can educate themselves as an individual. Therefore, education is again really important. Education is everything for both side.


Not sure why is there still some people that believe in this. If you graduate from a university or not doesn't matter at all. Many people don't go to college but still become successful in life. You know why? Because they pursue and they do their best to reach their goals in life.

When you're offering a service, no one will ask you about your diploma. If you get the work done, then you get the work done. People don't care about your educational attainment. A very good example for this is freelancing. The people don't care about you, they only care about your service so the first thing they check is the feedback about you.
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