So 365 BC should more or less give another 1 coin per day per wallet
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Hehe fun thing.
We all believe in Eduffield but we are a bit skeptical towards Darksend.
So.. Eduffield if you just say it will work for sure, we all can start buying more DRK!
It's code... code can break if it's not clean, extremely well thought out, trial-tested, reviewed, etc etc. It needs time to be patched to better levels of reliable functionality and prove itself, just like BTC code is taking years and still has questionmarks if something can break it and render it useless. Even things like stratum, kgw, dgw, need fixing. You can't have complicated code working flawlessly from day 1, no matter the assurances. That's just how it is. It's always better to have realistic expectations rather than unrealistic ones because that way no disillusionment can occur later on and comments like "ohhhhhh disaster, darksend is a flop" start to spring up after some bug or something. You know, the solution eduffield came up with is very simple, has about a 99.9% obfuscation (enough info, you maybe able to make some associations with enough power, but very expensive). This is why I see this as a huge advantage: 1. the simpler something is, the more directly it works, the less "holes" that will be found! 2. The "hole" this system has is obvious and a clear solution has been implemented. I think it will be very difficult if not impossible to take advantage of this system because of the fine charged if there is any funny business. It's financially unfeasible. This is the only "hole" that can be seen and it is logically and financially closed. 3. The NSA possibly could find probable cause that a wallet belongs to a person, maybe even that that person has made repeated purchases to another person, I don't know. They almost have infinite funds. However, if I were the NSA, I'd try to get this information by infecting computers with back doors etc... malware, which they already do according to Snowden. Who can defend against a government that does such things, and ours does. The only way to protect ourselves from the government is by staying off line. So, you can pile more systems of obfuscation on top of DarkSend as it is, but you would only make it have more hidden holes that could be discovered by a malicious person who could do a ton of damage! Keep it simple stupid, is a successful acronym for a reason: KISS And finding a simple yet extremely effective solution is a sign of brilliance. E=mc(2) came from clearing out the debris and only looking at the facts, the clear facts. The issue Anonymint raises is not about losing anonymity, but of Darksends being blocked good thing he also proposed a divide and conquer workaround getting that added to Darksend will make it 10 times better!! The "solution" eduffield came up with breaks anonymity and achieves only privacy. He did this to prevent Darksends from being blocked. I proposed the divide-and-conquer as a way to get both anonymity and prevent blocking. In fact, it is the only way that can do that. Eduffield's "solution" exposes your IP address, input, and output (as a correlated triplet) to the random node. That is the antithesis of anonymity. It is broadcasting your identity all over the place (to random nodes). I am not the best guy when it comes to the technical stuff but can the "exposed IP addresses problem" be fixed by using tor? btw one could say that NSA could also find you when using tor but the more difficult/expensive/time wasting it gets to find you the better... |
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there is a 28BTC buy order at cryptsy...fake or not its amazing  |
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Why, it would just be more that you don't bother to read.
The last few days of posts already tell you what you are asking someone to tell you.
-MarkM-
I just want the summary!  |
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Earth hour is not only retarded but also dangerous. It makes people psychologically think they have actually made their part in saving environment just by closing lights for an hour. That may keep them from doing something that actually helps environment and most importantly from politically addressing the problem...
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Can someone update me on what has happened in this thread the last 2-3 days please?
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Would like to help but am currently only holding 2500ish, am in the process of buying more though  ** only ** ? Do you realise that 2500 is a huge amount for a coin with a supply of only 1.7 million ? Correcting for coin supply, that's like holding 40,000 Litecoins (in terms of proportion of the coin supply). There is movement on BTER. Over the last few days 4-figure orders have started appearing. It won't take much to attract a big interest in this coin again - it's already just popped up on Marketcap today because of everything else going down. (A bit like a dry summer in Spain when the reservoirs deplete to such a low level that church spires start appearing up through the surface of the water indicating the prescence of villages that were flooded the previous century to make way for the reservoir). If this coin gets going technically it will definitely go somewhere price ways. coin supply is double that. Block explorer has stuck weeks now and coinmarketcap shows faulty statistics. |
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What is the volume like on BTC38? Is it a big deal? It is at least one day old. They added us on altcoins but i think trading hasnt started yet. |
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lets take some shit coins down already guys.. they are going to think we're all talk  I'm sure you are well aware of the reason the action hasn't started yet -- they are waiting to see who pays the extortion. Are you worried that you're not going to get your cut? i have refused kickbacks endlessly in front of people on IRC or various chat box and even via pm here at the forum soooooooo many times. the pattern is in the last year or so i have bitched about scam coins then a random new user pops up offering me free coins. me no.. other guys maybe yeah, i wouldn't doubt it but they don't speak for all of us.. don't put this extortion crap on me buddy ! this problem we're discussing here that the guy said earlier we need moderators about or the other guy(s) who said it's boring is a glaring symbol of what has happened.. and that we have witnessed humanity reach a lower level. this has all wound up being a loud and bright siren call to scammers across the globe. they have no morals and no limits and if there is any way to get coins / money they will do it.. no matter what "it" is.. and just like we are seeing here they will just.. keep.. making.. excuses. And i agree with that guy earlier who said exchanges should be added.. but that would be damn near all of them lol Adding a scam coin is support.. just like pool operators adding a coin that is support too. They do it for fee's etc or their friends made the cloned premine coin etc etc It's a den of thieves and don't expect a corrupt lying scamming thief to be honest in any way shape or form they are snakes slithering around in the shadows. Ever caught a thief stealing from you and their first instinct is to aggressively attack you and accuse you of stealing from them ? lol at least they are dumb.. these scammers are not in the same league as many of us ..they have the intelligence of a sack of shit and the reason they scam is because we made it too easy for them and because they are too stupid to know how to make money in a legit way or just lazy.. are we going to keep making it easy for them ? there was a time here at this forum where they had to actually try.. now they don't even bother.. they KNOW they will get their coin added to the exchange or maybe the exchange staff are making most of these coins now ? i know they have had a lot of involvement in the past, so who knows maybe they started doing that more.. wouldn't surprise me.. i don't trust any of them at all and have 1,000 stories and proof of their corruption. And i am not just speaking about Cryptsy but ALL the exchanges they all have a lot of really bad stains on their records. This is where being here for a year or two comes into play regardless of that jerk in here before saying it didn't matter.. hell yeah it does.. why ? It allows you to more accurately asses the risks and after all isn't that what most of this is all about, investment of money ? don't you wanna know the risk before handing over your cash ? Is it too much to even simply ask WHO your giving your cash too ? This crypto scene has spawned a whole new age of corruption on the internet. We are witnessing the birth of a whole new scale of immorality i think. It's disgusting.. and no don't pin the bullshit on me, when some other guy tries to extort money or sum shit.. my track record is clean. And i am here talking because i want my scene cleaned up.. and yes it is MY scene and not the scammers.. they tried to take over but i 'm not having it. They need to leave and the scammer puppets etc defending the dumb garbage can leave too.. fuck off scum bags your not wanted on the internet.. LEAVE ! Get out of MY crypto scene ! dude are you on amphetamines or something?  i have add and i find difficult to read your HUGE comments! Probably its my problem and i am making this comment just for joke. But you know tl;dr!!! P.S. Seriously i cant read it. I dont have the concentration and will to read all this on an internet forum! I dont know but i had to write this comment! and you make my point.. i fight for guys like you who don't read the paragraphs on new coins that you should and just click download.. i try and put pressure on shit coins because people like you with no attention span simply see a new coin ANN and start twitching and then the ADD kicks in and then start mining flash-mining what ever shit coin comes along with out giving it any thought. i don't want to pick on people but a lot of people in crypto are little kids and teenagers with little intelligence or life experience, Kids are hyper and suffer from ADD symptoms and if it isn't a flashing bright Fischer Price Windows 8 tile or if they can't tap and swipe it in under a second. hashtag #amazing they start getting angry and usually post a classic snotty one liner.. no more than that because they don't have the skills to find anything more than 1 line to type out. they aren't smart enough. You guys realize half these coins could be posted by a 12 yr old kid.. starting a planetary currency to replace the dollar.. put that into perspective lol I'm not going to dumb down what i say.. just accuse me of posting "rants" and keep scrolling  so buddy if i was on Meth or something i wouldn't be able to sit here and focus on typing all this out I know my comments are long.. sorry guys but a lot of people rudely bitch about it so i might as well do it on purpose just to piss them off then LOL plus i try and keep things entertaining, interesting / thoughtful and i read other peoples comments that are long too myself. edit: LOL @ the guy below me.. SEE LOLOL snotty one liner.. oh and by the way congrats on going after me personally and completely avoiding the topic at hand........ classic. that is what morons do.. Dont get mad at me  I seriously just told that only because of your long posts! I dont go after you personally! P.S. Amphetamines arent meth! And you actually talk a lot and write a lot with them! |
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If what they have delivered is good (assuming they are creating a coin) they can mine too to have profit. They can ask donations. And hell they are the first that know about the coin and have it ready to mine it. Isnt that enough? After all first days of mining is really easy to have a big portion of the coin...
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This is what I find hilarious about this whole drama. All the naive Aspies who spew venom at Altcoins are in the same exact boat, a shadowy mysterious developer who won't reveal himself, distrust by the general public that what they are running is a pyramid scheme, attacking alts for "having no infrastructure" or "wide merchant acceptance" when neither does Bitcoin really (sorry but a shitty little wordpress storefront selling giftcards and GPUs doesn't count as "wide" merchant acceptance in my book), and a majority of the coin wealth owned by an elite few (the top 1% of bitcoin holders hold 80% of them, and here we think a 1% premine for a developer is greed).
Really nice post ... I haven't been into cryptos very long, but this does bring up a question I've always had. Why is a 1% premine considered bad? Is it considered poor form for the developer to profit in any way? I just find it a bizarre notion personally. If a premine is gigantic and cashed out entirely by the dev, or promised to be used for promotion, yet isn't -- I can see why people would look at it as if the dev is scamming someone. But if it's a reasonable amount, who cares? I mean, why is it wrong for a developer to profit at all from a small premine? I never quite got that. Things can be deceiving ....1% sounds small, but some devs gear the block scaling and timing so that 1% can be as much as every single miner can mine combined for months. Then because their 1% is such a huge proportion of the actual minted coins around they can do huge damage to the price and control the market. i have seen a coin where the guy was claiming 0 premining having for the first block or first 10 blocks anyway around 1000000 coins where the next blocks were 500 |
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U may know or not know him. He's going around in the altcoin forums hitting shitcoins hard with HATE. His name is BitcoinEXpress aka ~BCX~. Have you seen the ~BCX~ sign? Then u r witness of the official Altcoin Hitler. He will crush shitcoins with no mercy, concentrating all of his energy in pure hate on a mission to fuck every coin he hates to death. Watch out for the BCX!  more like watch out for shitty coins that can manipulated so easy |
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It's now at $ 4.95, and to think it peaked at about $ 90
LOL at the bagholders that bought at $90.00 ~BCX~ i think i saw it at 95! I would love to ask those that bought there what are they thinking |
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and shouldnt in coins that can manipulated so easily. thats the whole point. Serious investors should invest in serious coins.
Yeah, and if a serious investor saw this thread, he'd choose gold or silver coins, not cryptos. Any crypto. maybe. So the idea is that instead of making clones and ponzi coins we should be making/supporting better and innovative coins in that will help the future of cryptos. |
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If I was considering investing any real money into cryptos, this would certainly scare me away from investing in any shitcoins. It'd also scare me away from investing in any crypto whatsoever.
^^^This. Try explaining to Joe Average why a crapcoin is a crapcoin without mentioning Bitcoin... Well, my point was, shitcoins wouldn't scare me away from investing in cryptos. All of this talk of hacking, forking and extortion would, however ... and also keep me from investing into bitcoins too. This thread basically conveys a message that the crypto world is run by 15 year old trolls, who wish to hack and fork coins so they can make money off of it. No serious investor would bother. and shouldnt in coins that can manipulated so easily. thats the whole point. Serious investors should invest in serious coins. |
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Which are the technical differences between Hirocoin and Darkcoin, please?
Both use X11 and KGW, qt-based wallets and sph-miner ... so perhaps the secured blockchain and time warp limitation ?
Thanks in advance.
Darkcoin doesn't use a KGW either it uses DGW (Darkcoin dev made that from KGW) which fixes some problems with KGW |
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rock solid lol you do know you can buy packets (10-100-1000) of verified facebook accounts  As i've said.. if FB isn't the way.. then there's no better way that exists.. Sure , every system will have flaws. But our method is the best method so far. Our claims data suggests that all claims have been legit thus far. its other thing to have flaws that may be fixed and other thing to have major flaws on the core of something that cannot be fixed... |
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lets take some shit coins down already guys.. they are going to think we're all talk I'm sure you are well aware of the reason the action hasn't started yet -- they are waiting to see who pays the extortion. Are you worried that you're not going to get your cut? i have refused kickbacks endlessly in front of people on IRC or various chat box and even via pm here at the forum soooooooo many times. the pattern is in the last year or so i have bitched about scam coins then a random new user pops up offering me free coins. me no.. other guys maybe yeah, i wouldn't doubt it but they don't speak for all of us.. don't put this extortion crap on me buddy ! this problem we're discussing here that the guy said earlier we need moderators about or the other guy(s) who said it's boring is a glaring symbol of what has happened.. and that we have witnessed humanity reach a lower level. this has all wound up being a loud and bright siren call to scammers across the globe. they have no morals and no limits and if there is any way to get coins / money they will do it.. no matter what "it" is.. and just like we are seeing here they will just.. keep.. making.. excuses. And i agree with that guy earlier who said exchanges should be added.. but that would be damn near all of them lol Adding a scam coin is support.. just like pool operators adding a coin that is support too. They do it for fee's etc or their friends made the cloned premine coin etc etc It's a den of thieves and don't expect a corrupt lying scamming thief to be honest in any way shape or form they are snakes slithering around in the shadows. Ever caught a thief stealing from you and their first instinct is to aggressively attack you and accuse you of stealing from them ? lol at least they are dumb.. these scammers are not in the same league as many of us ..they have the intelligence of a sack of shit and the reason they scam is because we made it too easy for them and because they are too stupid to know how to make money in a legit way or just lazy.. are we going to keep making it easy for them ? there was a time here at this forum where they had to actually try.. now they don't even bother.. they KNOW they will get their coin added to the exchange or maybe the exchange staff are making most of these coins now ? i know they have had a lot of involvement in the past, so who knows maybe they started doing that more.. wouldn't surprise me.. i don't trust any of them at all and have 1,000 stories and proof of their corruption. And i am not just speaking about Cryptsy but ALL the exchanges they all have a lot of really bad stains on their records. This is where being here for a year or two comes into play regardless of that jerk in here before saying it didn't matter.. hell yeah it does.. why ? It allows you to more accurately asses the risks and after all isn't that what most of this is all about, investment of money ? don't you wanna know the risk before handing over your cash ? Is it too much to even simply ask WHO your giving your cash too ? This crypto scene has spawned a whole new age of corruption on the internet. We are witnessing the birth of a whole new scale of immorality i think. It's disgusting.. and no don't pin the bullshit on me, when some other guy tries to extort money or sum shit.. my track record is clean. And i am here talking because i want my scene cleaned up.. and yes it is MY scene and not the scammers.. they tried to take over but i 'm not having it. They need to leave and the scammer puppets etc defending the dumb garbage can leave too.. fuck off scum bags your not wanted on the internet.. LEAVE ! Get out of MY crypto scene ! dude are you on amphetamines or something? i have add and i find difficult to read your HUGE comments! Probably its my problem and i am making this comment just for joke. But you know tl;dr!!! P.S. Seriously i cant read it. I dont have the concentration and will to read all this on an internet forum! I dont know but i had to write this comment! |
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How about starting seperating this huuuge thread into smaller?
1) How to mine, Pools, difficulty, DGW discussion etc
2) Logo and general marketing
3) News for Darkcoin
4) Exchanges and services that use darkcoin
This way it is easier for people to see the coin anyway and it helps even us to keep truck with what is going on...
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