PM: [quote author=RawDog link=action=profile;u=196289 date=1408752426]
You'll be happy to know I was paid by KnC to counteract RoadStress' bullshit in their forum thread. KnC thought you'd just like to share in the trash talk that your guy delivers to them. I'll tell you this, he outposts me 2:1 - so by at least one measure, you guys are winning.
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1) BS
2) RoadStress wasn't hired by us to trash talk any thread. No one was.
3) Get a life. But if you enjoy it, by all means, do continue.
Guy
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Wissam,
You've made your argument very clear. I've replied. We can't reduce our hosting costs or give further compensation.
I'm sorry you're unhappy about it. You're welcome to continue the discussion by emailing sales@
Guy
Edit: The solution I've purposed is relevant to any customer, big or small. Host for 1-2 months with us, ship to a cheaper DC afterwards.
Specifically in your case, your oder is September. You have enough time to select a DC. We'll return the hosting costs you've paid.
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I don't know why anyone would buy/produce a1 miners when the chips are twice as expensive as BE200.
AM wasn't able to sell their inferior gen3 in China, this is why they reverted to self-mining and selling miners again. We're getting 2 requests each day from system integrators that currently using A1. Take a look at Discuss Fish growth Doesn't answer my question at all. Why is BE200 "inferior" despite being half the cost and equally efficient? And what do you mean they weren't able to sell in china? How much PH do you think AM sold? Do enlighten me about A1 cost. I find it amusing. And I can't help it (too tired): apparently not enough to distribute some dividends  AM margins on the Tube are very low. It was done mainly as another attempt to recover the investment done in gen3 wafers. AM went all in and need to recover some of the $ before they won't be able to. |
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We're working with various partners with excellent technical skills and the ability to maintain the SP30 at peak efficiency.
It's the long term solution anyhow, because the electricity cost in Israel is way too expensive.
Hosting with us should be considered a short term solution for few months. For the long tail, it makes much more sense to host elsewhere.
Edit: We already ran out of capacity in our 1MW DC.
We're augmenting the web site to allow selecting a DC from a list of approved partners when ordering.
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No need to feed the troll ...
He lives for those interactions.
Quoting him defeat the Ignore function.
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If you wanted to make up for this Spondoolies and (We really hope you do) you would fix the hosting costs for the affected people and perhaps as a "Sorry" for all the issues you cost Us, offer us a one time first buy/first shipment of one of your future products that we may want to get since we lost mining time (a lot of mining time).
As explained multiple times, the compensation will be for the missing GH/s per the $/GH/s ratio. We can't reduce our hosting costs in Israel. We can ship to another DC around the world, with much cheaper cost. |
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Spondoolies: a question...
Is there a hardware ID or other identifier (other than a order number) that would identify a machine.
Is this information being transmitted to the owner upon order fulfillment?
The reason-in a hosting environment, with many machines coming and going, mistakes could be made.
How can we ensure that a particular miner is mine and not someone else's?
I know that this is not your problem, but S3 all look the same and if there was such an ID, I don't know where to look (in case of S3)
The machines has serial ID. that is visible in FW/SW? And on the miner physically. |
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Spondoolies: a question...
Is there a hardware ID or other identifier (other than a order number) that would identify a machine.
Is this information being transmitted to the owner upon order fulfillment?
The reason-in a hosting environment, with many machines coming and going, mistakes could be made.
How can we ensure that a particular miner is mine and not someone else's?
I know that this is not your problem, but S3 all look the same and if there was such an ID, I don't know where to look (in case of S3)
The machines has serial ID. |
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Hi Spondoolies ...
Contact sales@ and we'll work something out. We can't reduce our hosting costs due to the electricity cost in Israel. We're hosting at our own cost. What we can do is ship to a cheaper DC operated by one of our partners. |
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MBP currently has 10P worth of gen1 and claim that their next gen (0.5w/gh at the wall) is almost complete.
Under NDA I don't know why anyone would buy/produce a1 miners when the chips are twice as expensive as BE200.
AM wasn't able to sell their inferior gen3 in China, this is why they reverted to self-mining and selling miners again. We're getting 2 requests each day from system integrators that currently using A1. Take a look at Discuss Fish growth |
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... There have been at least about 50 PH deployed within last 4 weeks ...
Mostly BitFury and Innosilicon. Regarding the later, from the amount of ASICs requests we're getting from China, it seems that CoinCraft A1 is towards the end of it's life. Is there a specific email you use for technical requests? I sent a general email awhile ago about getting information on doing a RockerBox design, but I have yet to hear anything back. Thanks. If you don't get a reply from info@, support@ or sales@ within 48 hours, please email again. We're overwhelmed with requests. Regarding RockerBox, take into account that TSMC lead time is over 3 months and beside small number of samples, we don't have stock. |
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... There have been at least about 50 PH deployed within last 4 weeks ...
Mostly BitFury and Innosilicon. Regarding the later, from the amount of ASICs requests we're getting from China, it seems that CoinCraft A1 is towards the end of it's life. |
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... MegaBigPower also runs some large DCs with BF chips ...
Rev1 only |
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Do you have any idea how low Bitfury's margins are?
The 3500BF ( http://bitfury.org/products) cost is about 0.65 $/GHs They stopped selling when the $/GHs went below 1 $/GHs Their plan is to replace the hashing boards with more advanced custom 40nm when it will be ready. It's delayed. |
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In the world of bitcoin mining I've come to expect pre-orders to ship at the end of the allocated shipping period.
With a small of exception of the last SP10 batches, we always shipped pre-orders and not about to be produced miners. We're producing and shipping in the entire shipping period. We don't produce to a farm, self-mine and ship from the farm at a pre-determined date like Bitmaintech. |
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Nice. Are the asic temps 85C? What are the normal temps? Do you plan on sending Allied Control a unit for testing 2 phase IC? I've always wondered how their systems compare. Yes, 85 - 105 and we already shipped. Waiting for results. |
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I believe you misunderstood the implication in that statement. it implies beginning of august for shipping as production will occur in july
I understood it. I also acknowledged that it might be interpreted as you suggested. The groupbuy miners are considerably less than 20% of August batch. |
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From the Group buy thread....might shine some light on the backlash.... Notes regarding the pre-ordering:
For those that don't know the SP30 chips will arrive early in July so there will be plenty of time until August to set things up and to start mass production of the miners.
RoadStress statement was accurate. We got the ASICs one week later then what we expected in April. We've ramped up the production lines in record time. Our commitment is to produce and ship in August and we will. |
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I've seen the results of SP30 with slow corner ASICs in grcooling solution and it was impressive. Can't wait to see what SP31 results will look like in similar setup.
The results are especially impressive since we've sent grcooling under-performing system. The firmware might be tweaked for additional performance in this setup. Some screenshots:   |
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Regarding the various claims done by GB customers:
- We're shipping according to queue.
- We'll meet the August shipping timeframe.
- We'll compensate for the missing GHs
I understand your anxiety due to the raising difficulty.
BitFury doesn't open a new 20MW DC every month.
Both BitFury and Bitmaintech are at extremely low margins with their current tech.
We got very few requests to switch orders owners (and the compensation) and we'll honour them.
Guy
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