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1561  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who really fought the Nazis on: February 06, 2023, 11:37:18 PM
One of the major reasons for the war is that Ukraine and Russia were always moving towards togetherness among the common people. The West can't take this, because it's a push-back against their One-World-Government ideals... ideals that are in the form of old USSR expansion, if not in they mode or style of the USSR. But there are always those in both Russia and Ukraine who want to rule their own country without the other.

Russia wasn't in a real, do-or-die fighting mode. They are being pushed towards that by the West interfering in Ukraine. Without the West, Ukraine is simply in a 'Die' mode. At least at this stage of the game.

The point is that any nation that has the ability to fight, if it fights with all its strength in forceful do-or-die fashion, can often beat many other nations that it normally wouldn't succeed against.

The people of Ukraine are essentially dead as far as their effectiveness. Any effectiveness that they have in the future will only be US and Nato effectiveness.

The West is not in do-or-die mode. At least not the people. In fact, the people are starting to become vocal in their protesting against West involvement in Ukraine.

Russia, on the other hand, is a united nation - even if there are those who don't like certain aspects of their country or government. They aren't in a do-or-die mode yet, but the West is pushing them in that direction more and more. If they ever get into that mode, they will sweep across Europe something like the hordes of Genghis Khan. Nothing will stop them. Not even nukes, especially since they can fight back with nukes.

Cool

There reason for the war is Russia invaded Ukraine and won't leave.  That's the reason.

Most common people from Ukraine and Russia did not hold much of a grudge IMHO. Creating such hate and issues where there were not is all Moscow's doing. Two army corps fighting an illegal war in the Donbas for years goes a long way into creating a false narrative of hate. You may be right, the Kremlin is scared of having what many Russian see as the poor brother being successful in an alliance with Europe. That cannot be uh?
1562  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: February 06, 2023, 11:30:49 PM
^^^ Need a job? Hire on in Russia. Good pay. With the West pushing, more workers needed..

Cool

How is your citizenship application BA? I heard about those jobs you are talking about, they seem that even common criminals from any prison are accepted. The economy must be going great. I wonder where are all those bloggers and tiktokers that are in military age and promote the war from the media... "fighting hard with they keyboards" just like you? All those who are absolutely fine with others dying while they pretend to know anything about war.

The western (global?) propaganda first about covid was something to see. Then just seeing the same playbook thrown at Ukraine was also insane. I don't care about partisan politics, I like seeing the truth. And the west has been getting blown the f*** out of Bahkmut for months on end now. Radio silence from the mainstream.

Would that be the same Bakhmut where Prigozhin buried thousands of criminals recruited from prisons and was still unable to take it? Great success for Russia and a great metaphor for their entire special operation.

One must rekon that is faster than 10 years in deathrow awaiting execution.
1563  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: February 05, 2023, 10:57:01 PM

...

Yet the RF GDP drops and dropsssss....... It seems to me that Putin would be a CIA operative and a brilliant one.


There is no accurate way to measure Russian GDP. You can't use standard banking measurements, because Russia is exporting and and growing in other ways. Standard measurements don't work because of the sanctions.

For example, if there is a 100 acre farm in the US, and the farm doesn't produce much if any product to sell to the American market, does that mean the farm dies? Not necessarily. After all, 100 acres is large enough to feed the family of 6 that owns it, plus a whole bunch of families in the area. Yet, none of that will be counted as part of the GDP for that farm, because they are not in the system of counting that way.

Russia is similar. They are simply not operating GDP-wise in the way that the West counts GDP. This might mean that they are even more successful in ways that the West doesn't measure. And actually, that seems to be the way it is.

Cool

Your usual confusion about economy and general lack of knowledge at full-throttle again. There is no way of accurately measuring any GDP, all of them are through indirect measures. Funds, credit and investment agencies routinely estimate growth and economy in many countries through indirect measures such as movement in seaports, exports, imports, traffic, power consumption... there is little doubt about what is happening to the RF economy.

GDP is GDP, it is not about how "the west" counts it nor is about "growing in a different way". You are so used to using sources that distort reality and make things "an opinion" when there are hard facts that you think you can talk your way out of an economic crisis - bad news is you can't, the economy does not care about excuses.

Yet, UK economy is tanking, unlike Russian one

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-04/boe-signals-worst-years-for-uk-growth-since-great-depression

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/imf-recession-germany-uk-gdp-2023-b2272655.html

RE UK, absolutely, the IMF and others have already mentioned that there will be recession or very little growth across the west. Controlling the inflation requires creating a crisis by raising interest rates and that is what the FED, the BoE and the ECB are doing and it is likely to last 1 or even 2 years.

However, that does not mean RF economy is going well or "growing in a different manner". Many qualified workers, the people you need to run a economy have emigrated, the commodities need to be exported to countries like China at a lower cost and if the Saudis decide tomorrow to cut production, the cut in flow of cash into Putin's army would be demolishing.

Nope, RF's GDP, employment and salaries, not to mention the interest rates for the Ruble do not show a prosperous growing country (in "any manner"). The RF is re-purposing its economy to sustain a long war effort. A war that would confer the RF no economical gain of any type, even if all the objectives were achieved. Even by creating statelets in the Donbass and keeping the "bridge to Crimea", the economic and production facilities have been destroyed.

Nothing to gain on this war for RF, Ukraine nor Europe. Guess who is happy?

1564  Economy / Economics / Re: Berkshire Hathaway was built atop a system that Bitcoin was created to destroy. on: February 05, 2023, 10:48:46 PM
He's exemplar of Cantillionaire privilege.
I don't know what that means,

It comes from the term 'Cantillion effect' which when applied to this means that those closest to the printer take advantage of central bank policies to get rich, while those same policies erode the economic capacity of the majority of the population.

Nah, Bitcoin and Value Investing (Warren's Buffet well-known strategy) are perfectly compatible because there is enough market and enough investment opportunities for all.

I agree, and I would add that Buffett and value investing, while not fighting against the establishment, are well aware that cash is devaluing, and the way to fight it is to buy shares in companies that beat inflation.

With Warren's wealth, it is impossible not to have a network that confers advantage when making deals and access to many phones and certainly political influence and the ability to gather first-class information.

However, he does not close "shark" style deals and has a "friendly" attitude in general. I think that the philosophy is that there are so many companies, stocks and possible deals to make that making enemies, sharking companies or making hostile acquisitions is simply not needed. You can simply take advantage of the market craziness and do really well.
1565  Economy / Economics / Re: Berkshire Hathaway was built atop a system that Bitcoin was created to destroy. on: February 05, 2023, 12:58:50 AM
Nah, Bitcoin and Value Investing (Warren's Buffet well-known strategy) are perfectly compatible because there is enough market and enough investment opportunities for all. Warren does not invest (at least not Berkshire's money) in bitcoin, gold or any commodity, only in companies or entities that have a balance sheet because that is how him and his team decide if a business has potential or not, not by looking at scarcity or demand which is what you'd do with crypto.

His company or personal relevance however are not threatened by bitcoin or crypto, at most he may have opportunities for investment in companies that operate in that area someday.
1566  Economy / Economics / Re: When your passive income equals or slightly above your salary, what would you do on: February 05, 2023, 12:12:05 AM
I think is not as much about the proportion but rather about the absolute sum and what you have decided that you would like to have to live with. If you passive income cn cover what you have decided that your lifestyle requires, you do not have to work or do it in a conventional sense at least. You may have to keep working if that is not the case no matter which is more.
1567  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: February 05, 2023, 12:03:15 AM

...

Yet the RF GDP drops and dropsssss....... It seems to me that Putin would be a CIA operative and a brilliant one.


There is no accurate way to measure Russian GDP. You can't use standard banking measurements, because Russia is exporting and and growing in other ways. Standard measurements don't work because of the sanctions.

For example, if there is a 100 acre farm in the US, and the farm doesn't produce much if any product to sell to the American market, does that mean the farm dies? Not necessarily. After all, 100 acres is large enough to feed the family of 6 that owns it, plus a whole bunch of families in the area. Yet, none of that will be counted as part of the GDP for that farm, because they are not in the system of counting that way.

Russia is similar. They are simply not operating GDP-wise in the way that the West counts GDP. This might mean that they are even more successful in ways that the West doesn't measure. And actually, that seems to be the way it is.

Cool

Your usual confusion about economy and general lack of knowledge at full-throttle again. There is no way of accurately measuring any GDP, all of them are through indirect measures. Funds, credit and investment agencies routinely estimate growth and economy in many countries through indirect measures such as movement in seaports, exports, imports, traffic, power consumption... there is little doubt about what is happening to the RF economy.

GDP is GDP, it is not about how "the west" counts it nor is about "growing in a different way". You are so used to using sources that distort reality and make things "an opinion" when there are hard facts that you think you can talk your way out of an economic crisis - bad news is you can't, the economy does not care about excuses.
1568  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: February 04, 2023, 12:20:23 AM
Soaring Death Toll Gives Grim Insight Into Russian Tactics



https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/02/us/politics/ukraine-russia-casualties.html
WASHINGTON — Moscow is sending poorly trained recruits, including convicts, to the front lines in eastern Ukraine to pave the way for more seasoned fighters, U.S. and allied officials say.

The number of Russian troops killed and wounded in Ukraine is approaching 200,000, a stark symbol of just how badly President Vladimir V. Putin’s invasion has gone, according to American and other Western officials.

While the officials caution that casualties are notoriously difficult to estimate, particularly because Moscow is believed to routinely undercount its war dead and injured, they say the slaughter from fighting in and around the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut and the town of Soledar has ballooned what was already a heavy toll.

With Moscow desperate for a major battlefield victory and viewing Bakhmut as the key to seizing the entire eastern Donbas area, the Russian military has sent poorly trained recruits and former convicts to the front lines, straight into the path of Ukrainian shelling and machine guns. The result, American officials say, has been hundreds of troops killed or injured a day.

Russia analysts say that the loss of life is unlikely to be a deterrent to Mr. Putin’s war aims. He has no political opposition at home and has framed the war as the kind of struggle the country faced in World War II, when more than 8 million Soviet troops died. U.S. officials have said that they believe that Mr. Putin can sustain hundreds of thousands of casualties in Ukraine, although higher numbers could cut into his political support.

Ukraine’s casualty figures are also difficult to ascertain, given Kyiv’s reluctance to disclose its own wartime losses. But in Bakhmut, hundreds of Ukrainian troops have been wounded and killed daily at times as well, officials said. Better trained infantry formations are kept in reserve to safeguard them, while lesser prepared troops, such as those in the territorial defense units, are kept on the front line and bear the brunt of shelling.

The last public Biden administration estimate of casualties came last November, when Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that more than 100,000 troops on each side had been killed and wounded since the war began. At the time, officials said privately that the numbers were closer to 120,000.

“I would say it’s significantly well over 100,000 now,” General Milley said at a news conference last month in Germany, adding that the Russian toll included “regular military, and also their mercenaries in the Wagner Group.”


Cool


That does not include bodies cremated by Russians in the mobile crematoriums. No bodies, no payments to families.

Russians do not care how many of its citizens they kill in this clusterfuck. Nobody is counting them.

The reports from the frontlines show that they send them in waves with losses in the 80%+ for each wave.
Some Ukrainian servicemen describe the attack on Bahmut as a surreal Zombie movie.

The Wagnerites get a few rounds of 7.62 and keep going until they lose enough blood and drop dead.
Nobody is picking up their bodies, new waves come in, and get chopped up, and this is repeated, for each 100m of advance.

I think Putin is prepared to sacrifice millions, so I think Ukrainians need to change something, as they might not be able
to sustain this type of attrition war.

Hint: Logistics wins wars.

Yep, numbers are not to be ignored that is for sure. You certainly need a number of troops in the ground to hold a territory and that is clear to everyone. A different matter is driving an offensive action without the right support of combined arms -  it is the closes to trying to run towards a machine gun with 200 people in the hope that 10 will make it there. On paper, it works, 10 people get to the machine gun and kill the operators. In reality, the 200 guys may choose to shoot the officers by the back.

Putin is certainly ready to use (others) lives, but there may be a point in which the lower ranks stop accepting being cannon fodder.


War is essentially never worth it. But, despite losses, Russia has taken back much of its land that Ukraine has illegally held for some time now.


Let's see here...

Russia's economy and relationship development within BRICS has never gone better ...

... Some say that 'the Russians' played opossum for a two or three decades while they installed their operatives in the West.  Looks entirely possible to me.


Yet the RF GDP drops and dropsssss....... It seems to me that Putin would be a CIA operative and a brilliant one.
1569  Economy / Economics / Re: Can I take a loan to invest in bitcoin? on: February 03, 2023, 11:59:46 PM
Even if someone is willing to lend you for bitcoin, buying a very variable asset such as crypto with a loan is like playing Russian Roulette. There is a chance it will go well and a chance it will go terrible and you will be left with a load to pay a nothing in return. There is also a chance that it goes well and you decide to double because it is such a good idea... you know and the loose.
1570  Economy / Gambling / Re: What do you appreciate more Desktop or Phone on: February 02, 2023, 10:32:37 PM
It can be unsecure to download the app from the gambling site. I understand that sometimes it is the only opportunity to download the app but it must be named, well-known casino - in the other way the best way to gamble using PC or mobile browser at least. Play Store gives us guarantee(not 100% but it is much better than nothing) that the app is secure and you don`t lose all your private data.
I was living in the country before, my native country when apps were downloaded from banks there were many hacks and they stole people's money, the safest way was to do it from the personal pc, pp like these have to be Well downloaded and they can't make any kind of error, I downloaded an app the other day but it crashed, and it was from the play store, and that gave me a bad feeling, I didn't trust much, and it was for a casino, I blamed the internet, but since so many bad things have happened with the apps I decided not to trust and not play much from the phone.
It is so. There are different rules how to avoid such situations but when you use PC, you defend yourself much easier. Installing the app, you give several permissions to the app and you don`t know what it would do with your phone. Using web browser more secure, even if it is mobile browser.
Yeah!  I also think that at present, those who use a personal computer are still much more strongly protected from intruders.  And you are right - when, for example, in an Android application you give permissions by choosing from the list that the application requests, you usually do not understand why certain permissions are needed.  And of course, scammers of all stripes should, or rather are even obliged to use such loopholes.  And they obviously take advantage of those permission loopholes.  On a personal computer, all the same, this user approaches more carefully, not as easily as on a smartphone, when he presses all permissions in a row.  And he doesn’t even think about the security and consequences of granting such permissions at all.  So it's safer to do everything not on a mobile phone, but on a personal computer.

In my opinion, both are high risk from hackers/intruders since you are downloading an application that you don't know what else is installed on your device, and like on the phone you will just realize that it's heating up even though you are not using it. then it means the background apps are running without you knowing the same with the desktop you can only see it on the running processes via the task manager.

apps which are in an app store and in general safe to play and install in your device, but anyway security is not really an issue for most people who do activities on-line. But regardless, it is true that a desktop will provide some interface advantage, due to it, I think that protecting your privacy is also better guaranteed with this system that seems innovative, but is no.
1571  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino games plebs like us must play on: February 02, 2023, 10:27:30 PM
I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively. It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.

I would think that the desire to attain more or to recover what has been lost in the past would also factor into a problem habit. The best way to stop something that is unhealthy is to cut off the source and to seek support to keep the source away. Over time it will be easier to stay away and reflection of any damage caused may become strength to stay away over a long term. I think this also applies to other vices such as drugs.


For gambling specifically, like you said, one of the ways to easily get addicted is to chase after loses, this is one of the most effective way to get addicted to gambling without even knowing, and before you know it, it has already become a habit the individual involved can not do without.
And also, from my own personal experience, one way to avoid chasing after loses in gambling is to always take some time off gambling when ever you feel you have lost some amount of money you weren't prepaid to loose, this will help you heal quicker and also put away any urge that would want to push you or give you the idea of gambling more to win your loss back.

I agree with your first statement completely. I think that the best way to win against gambling though, is not to. More often than not the house will win. Even if one does win, it will go back to the house in the long run. It can be said that it is healthy if it is a guilty pleasure or an occasional enjoyment...but this is the same as skating on thin ice of it very easily becoming unhealthy. No gambling, no stress. In my opinion, the time and emotional toll spent gambling would be better spent into more fulfilling things or better opportunities!

Like smoking, not all people are equally affected or driven towards the same issues when gambling. Some just do it for fun and have plenty of control abouit what they do an how much they spend. So, the games do not matter as much as the person who is making conscious decisions or becoming somehow carried away by the game.
1572  Economy / Gambling / Re: Arbitrage betting tips on: February 02, 2023, 10:24:10 PM
Cool thread op, but you didn't mention how arbitrage betting could lead to accounts getting restricted/limited when they get detected for obvious reasons. You should have mentioned that it isn't a risk-free strategy.

So to know how much you should bet on each outcome, you have to apply this formula :

For the first bet : Odds_1st_outcome x Total_Stake / (Odds_1st_outcome + Odds_2nd)

For the second bet : Odds_2nd x Total_Stake / (Odds_1st_outcome + Odds_2nd)
or simpler : Total_Stake - Stake_first_bet
This is helpful, but complicated since there are simpler solutions out there.

Example: https://arbitragecalc.com/

The above site calculates how much you need to place on 2 or more sides in order to ensure a guaranteed profit no matter who wins. Also, betting whole numbers helps your accounts last longer.

That is a good tip and tool for calculation. I guess that the elephant in the room nobody is talking about is the fct tht is nearly impossible to find arbitrage opportunities as the sites are already comparing their stakes and adjusting so that they do not fall for easy tricks. I know someone who was very good at it, but if you are caught they will ban you from the sites.
1573  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: really no kyc crypto casino on: February 02, 2023, 10:20:46 PM
Well im planing to deposit decent amount of eth and make sports bets, but i really prefer no kyc casino/sports bet.
Most of casinos that i tried with clearly wriitwn NO KYC still asks for docs even for 0.0002btc withdrawal.
Does anyone know normal no kyc casino without bs?
so far i tried vave.com , they are good,  but who knows what will happen if you withdraw more than 1k, maybe annoying kyc procedures will begin trough email.
Anyone tried cloudbet? or bitcoin.com games?

Do no trust sites that do not require a reasonable KYC process at least. Else, they are probably in a jurisdiction that allows shady business and anonymous gambling which will already give you a hint about how protected is you deposit and how protected are your rights in case of dispute. Anonymity is something that cuts both ways I am afraid, so choose consciously.
1574  Economy / Gambling / Re: What sort of Weekly & Monthly Bonuses do Bitcointalk members want? on: February 02, 2023, 10:17:42 PM
It's nothing original, though, because before there was a casino which used to reward users through this method here. You don't need to offer a big reward, but something that will incentivize gamblers claiming it, playing and depositing more from their own pockets if they like your services.
maybe better to seek for the bonus that will be given to those forum members that truly plays in this site and not those who are hunting airdrop or freebies from casino and not playing totally to that site.
And bonuses are something that can entice gamblers to come back again and again to that casino. And if a casino can constantly give out bonuses, even if they sometimes have certain requirements, gamblers will definitely come back, especially if there is something else they can take as a free gift for them.
those are indeed from a Legitimate casinos mate , but aside from that? then it is not as effective as we see because scam sites mostly promising the same or even higher but the chance of getting your money out? is BS way to wait because it will never come after depositing .
But as long as the casino is legit, it will give out bonuses, which can be a good place to play. But we still have to be careful because we have to control our expenses and not exceed the amount we can afford to chase bonuses. And we have also experienced playing on deceptive casino sites, so we know how to anticipate it. And casinos always know how to satisfy gamblers so they can return to playing at the casino.
there is no question about legit casino because as long as you are a not cheater player bonus will keep filling your account so yes it is our control that will bring us to more losing , I hate seeing people being victim of scamming site when they can simply play in legit casinos?
it is their laziness that turns them in not finding a good site instead relying in what they find in internet that promise huge bonuses.
If there are still victims of scamming sites, they are not looking for more information to find valid information. If they can do that, they will also be able to avoid scamming sites and won't become victims. Indeed, offers from casinos can be very tempting for people to join and get what they want, but we must be careful because many scam casino sites have already deceived many people. Never register directly at a casino you don't know the details for; you should look for information first to find an official and popular casino.


And the marketing team will be able to find the type of promotion that can bring in more players and use a lot of money to play gambling. Even though it's like trial and error in running each promotion because they don't know which promotions can bring in a lot of players, it won't be a problem because from many promotions, some promotions can run successfully and achieve the targets they want.

The marketing team is like the company's spearhead in developing its business to achieve maximum profit. So we will see that many casinos compete to provide big promotions to their members and people.

Precisely, the marketing team is the one who really need to think out from the box to provide attracting offers, they are the front row to promote the business, with good marketing strategy the site/casino will be more competitive, most of the time the owner of the site are really spending good portions of their budget to this group in order to bring something interesting to attract more gamblers.

We can say that the healthy competition with how the marketing teams offer from different casinos benefited the gamblers here and outside the forum.
You are right. The marketing team usually consists of people who can think creatively, don't want to go for mediocre promotions, and want to create promotions that are different from other casinos. They do this to increase visits to their casino and to get more members who will register and use their money to gamble. With a creative marketing team, this casino can grow to be big and compete with other casinos. We, as gamblers, will certainly benefit from the promotions carried out by each casino so that we are free to choose the casino.

As a follow up with that statement, if the casino have good marketing team, they can easily compete with those established business, attracting gamblers to come and play inside their platforms are the things that marketing team needs to take care, either to offer same promotions or go beyond and try to create a more attracting features and promotions that gamblers won't be able to resist.

A good value for gamblers as indeed, if each casino will try to improve their promotions, the end benefactors are the gambler who
are using the site, they can easily switch in between to enjoy both offers while enjoying the game that they've payed inside the casinos.
From there, the casino needs to select a marketing team with care and find creative people who can come up with ideas that are out of the box. Thus, it is only a matter of time before the casino grows and becomes bigger. If they also have large funds to be allocated to marketing, the marketing team will come up with more attractive promotions than before.

After all, the life of a casino depends on how well the promotion does because that will allow the casino to become one of the casinos recommended by many people. And for the big casinos that are already popular, they have to be careful of new competitors that are sure to appear in the gambling business. They also have to increase their promotions more to retain their customers.

Creativity tends to be good when you need to attract people and make them consider a new product or idea, I am not sure that is a key factor when speaking about bonus, which is something that is pretty much standardised. I think that having a team for promotions that are creative is good as long a you mix it with people from finance and customer care to balance.
1575  Economy / Economics / Re: How worried should americans be if the debt ceiling isn’t lifted? on: January 31, 2023, 09:24:38 PM
Very. It is a very peculiar feature of the US that a vote has to be cast in order to pay for government expenses. A country without and effective government iinnevitably fals into chaos an anarchy, so I do not think that the people who actually live off and do well BTW by being that political system would like to risk anarchy or the loss of confidence in the mechanisms of the state.
1576  Other / Politics & Society / Who really fought the Nazis on: January 31, 2023, 01:46:24 PM
There has been a lot of echo to the official RF version of Urkaine being "Nazis". Let's now recap and see who actually drove the Nazis out of Ukraine and Russia:

Quote
Ukraine's Contribution to Victory in World War II Is Unsurpassed

Ukraine paid the biggest price for victory in the Second World War. As a vital contributor to the Red Army and a key provider of industrial resources in the USSR, Ukraine incurred the largest number of casualties during WWII. Russia has claimed the victory for itself and has officially denied the Ukrainian role in the fight against the Nazis.

The real number of victims during WWII is still not fully known. Some relevant data is still held in Russian archives and is not available for non-Russian researchers. However, of the 41.7 million people living in Ukrainian Soviet Republic before the war, only 27.4 million were alive in Ukraine in 1945. Official data says that at least 8 million Ukrainians lost their lives: 5.5 - 6 million civilians, and more than 2.5 million natives of Ukraine were killed at the front. The data varies between 8 to 14 million killed, however, only 6 million have been identified.

Remarkably, in December 2010, the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin mentioned in an interview that the Soviet Union could have won the Second World War without Ukrainian forces. “We would definitely have won without Ukraine as a member of USSR, because we are the “winner state.” The war was won because of Russian industrial resources” he claimed.

The contribution of Ukrainians to victory in World War II was not just limited to the 7 million Ukrainian soldiers in the Red Army. Hundreds of Ukrainians also served as generals and commanders. The flag of victory over the Reichstag was first raised by a Ukrainian from Sumy, Alex Berest. In addition, about 2.5 million Ukrainians received commendations and were awarded with medals by the Soviet Union.

Ukraine was also the largest contributor to the industrial resources of the USSR. Before the war, the Ukrainian SSR was a leading center for metals and mining, chemical production, tractors, and agricultural machinery. In 1940, Ukrainian mechanical engineers built 671 line-haul locomotives (73.4 percent of all-Union production) and 16 thousand tons of mining and metallurgical equipment (67.5 percent).

I think that Putin has little to teach Ukraine about how to fight, how to win and how to get the Nazis, the real ones, out of the country and into their sewers. It is about time that Ukraine gets the recognition they deserve and that will not come from the Kremlin.
1577  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: January 31, 2023, 01:41:35 PM
All irrelevant. The fact that someone speaks Russian does not mean that they want to join a Russia that has been kidnapped by kleptocrats, psychotic generals and a "president" that is just like any bannana republic dictator except better armed. This war is not about culture, is not about language and is not about anything but the desire to rebuild the old USSR dominions by Putin. That is why he has to be stopped.

Umm, you know that Ukraine is exactly the same corrupt, but even more poor than Russia? And that more both Ukrainians and Russians from Ukraine went to work in Russia,
than to EU?

And if they choose to have a corrupt government and are happy with it, so be it (not the best idea if they ever want to join the EU). Note word "choose" - is like electing, deciding, you know? The opposite of being imposed by the force and by the guy with the biggest gun. Democracies have a much better chance to clean up their houses than despotic governments. Being governed from Moscow has only brought death and poverty.
1578  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine: Is the Hammer About to Fall? on: January 31, 2023, 12:13:06 AM
"Hammer to fall on April 14"
in the meantime
On behalf of everyone in Europe German foreign minister declared war with Russia
https://youtu.be/ZriXLCgNLCU?t=87
Wars are not declared this way, and the Minister of Foreign Affairs is well aware of this. There are no fools in Europe to fight with Russia, because it could end very badly for Europe. Only the neo-Nazis of Ukraine have the suicidal courage to challenge Russia. It seems that Goebbels also said about them: “Bandera’s are insane maniacs, or, in other words, brutalized cattle. But it is precisely these that we need in this period of time in order to destroy the recalcitrant Slavs. And then they themselves must be destroyed, since animals have no place among people ".

Russia is doing a great service to Europe and the whole world by conducting an operation to denazify Ukraine.

So you still think it was Russia who defeated the German Reich?? You seem to be forgetting that most of WW II was actually fought in Ukraine and that millions of Ukrainians were the ones who actually fought, died and won the battles with the Nazi Germany only to be betrayed by Stalin.

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Ukraine paid the biggest price for victory in the Second World War. As a vital contributor to the Red Army and a key provider of industrial resources in the USSR, Ukraine incurred the largest number of casualties during WWII. Russia has claimed the victory for itself and has officially denied the Ukrainian role in the fight against the Nazis.

The real number of victims during WWII is still not fully known. Some relevant data is still held in Russian archives and is not available for non-Russian researchers. However, of the 41.7 million people living in Ukrainian Soviet Republic before the war, only 27.4 million were alive in Ukraine in 1945. Official data says that at least 8 million Ukrainians lost their lives: 5.5 - 6 million civilians, and more than 2.5 million natives of Ukraine were killed at the front. The data varies between 8 to 14 million killed, however, only 6 million have been identified.

Remarkably, in December

Ask yourself, who liberated who from the real Nazis? Whose territory, cities, soldiers and civilians made YOU free to rant and spread disinformation? Another one here who has forgotten the price of freedom.
1579  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine: Is the Hammer About to Fall? on: January 30, 2023, 03:51:36 PM
"Hammer to fall on April 14"
in the meantime
On behalf of everyone in Europe German foreign minister declared war with Russia
https://youtu.be/ZriXLCgNLCU?t=87

False "we are in a war" does not mean "we are at war with Russia", it means "we are in a war in Europe" which is totally correct. The commentator and your interpretation is biased to the point of fakeness

 Germany has accepted to allow other to export certain weapons to Ukraine in an effort to end the war as soon as possible and with an acceptable result for Ukraine. . The export of weapons by non-combatant countries is generally allowed under the rules of law, it is only that Germany has been very reluctant to do so before because they do not want to completely destroy any future relation with the bear.
1580  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: January 30, 2023, 12:31:51 PM

...............
Spoke to a Ukrainian (from Odessa) and from his view the 2019 map with percent of Russian speakers in region is correct. At home he speaks Russian with family and friends. He has real difficulty understanding some Ukrainians because of strong dialect variations (Surzhik, villages with wild varieties of Russian-Ukrainian mix or Ukrainian dialects with no standard in its written form).
Since the start of the war a lot of people moved and some of his friends started to speak Ukrainian.
By law all cinemas in the country must use Ukraine language only.
The second map is from Wikimedia, (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Regional_languages_in_Ukraine_(RUS).PNG)
the third Google search (old original ), and the 4th is chat language used in VK social network.





All irrelevant. The fact that someone speaks Russian does not mean that they want to join a Russia that has been kidnapped by kleptocrats, psychotic generals and a "president" that is just like any bannana republic dictator except better armed. This war is not about culture, is not about language and is not about anything but the desire to rebuild the old USSR dominions by Putin. That is why he has to be stopped.
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