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Yes, theymos is the guy to pm if you have a problem with a mod.
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But this is how the free market works and we can't even exercise that here, it is up to the consumers to do research before and if we are giving them more options to look into, I don't see the harm.
It's always been that policy here, so since people are using this forum and not another, that would mean the free market has decided already.  |
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competitive product posts in other people's threads and items for sale posts.
I don't like this either, report it when you see it, it's off topic. |
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@BadBear: We already confirmed from Theymos that donations are not used for paying mods. Why are you confused about that or what I said? Please re-read my post. No where am I saying that that is the problem, not is paying mods a problem. Donations and ad purchases were solicited to "create a new forum", 12 months later still nothing, nothing but a surplus of funds.
Silly me, and I thought this thread was about mod payments, not bitching that donations aren't being used fast enough. Carry on  . |
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Someone correct me if I am wrong but the donations were not used to pay mods.
Where did I say otherwise? The issue with donations is different than the issue with ad space. The issue with ad space is that it's not only opaque, it's downright misleading. No one cares if the mods are paid, they care that it's not mentioned and instead it claims it's for use in creating a forum (which isn't happening). The issue with donations is that it mislead people to donate large amounts of money (6000 bitcoins) in order to do something that was never done, in 12 months time, and instead of doing that more funds are continuously collected. Basically, Theymos is guilty of what BFL is guilty for. Accepting shitloads of money on promise to deliver, and not only not delivering, but continuing to find reasons for needing money (despite having an insanely large surplus of it, hundreds of times what is needed for the proposed use). I question his integrity by not addressing and admitting this. Where is the new forum software Theymos? Don't you think it's dishonest to solicit money from the community for a "good cause" and then just sit on the money and never "get around" to using the money for the intended purpose? Don't you think lying about what you'll do in order to get donations is a type of scamming? People didn't donate so they could make you rich. They donated so that the new forum could be created. BFL pays forum for ads and mods now get a cut of the ad revenue. Gee I wonder why this was left out of the discussion in the other thread. I'm not much for conspiracy theories, but it does seem like that would have been announced publicly so people would know that their advertising and donation "revenue" would be going to pay mods to censor them  You said it right there, not even a few pages ago, after it had already been clarified that donation were not being used. I know you have a grudge against theymos because you disagree with his decisions regarding your scammer/untrustworthy tag, but you aren't doing yourself any favors by proving him right. |
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I moved the threads you mentioned to archival until it gets sorted out. You need to contact theymos, he's the only one who can help you.
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Didn't Diablo3 get demodded in the custom hardware subforum specifically because he dared to moderate in a way Josh saw as detrimental towards BFL? Or is this an old man's faulty memory at work?
He tried to censor anyone that wanted to discuss BFL (bad or good), even went so far as to start deleting threads consisting of many pages of discussion. Remember when he moved all the threads to german off topic, then locked the only remaining BFL thread? He felt very strongly that it was a scam, and that discussion regarding BFL shouldn't be allowed or should be heavily moderated. My post in the staff forum (before payments mind you, this was 6+ months ago). ...I think Diablo is wrong here. It isn't our job as moderators to decide what's a scam or not, and it isn't our job to restrict what information people should have (re: deleting the BFL thread as "anti-scam policy") based on nothing more than opinion/speculation. That's not why we're here, people are more than capable of making their own decisions without our interference. I get Diablo doesn't like BFL and thinks it's a scam, and he's certainly free to express his opinion on that, but abusing his mod privileges in this way because of that is going a little too far. 05:39 < Diablo-D3> bfl purposely had their shills start hundreds of troll threads to make it hard to find information about bfl
05:39 < Diablo-D3> I fixed the problem.
And if that's the reasoning behind moving all the BFL threads to off topic, then I gotta say I disagree with that as well. There may be specific threads that have issues, but that seems kind of a knee jerk reaction. I guess that isn't a big deal, nobody seems to care so far. This is the whole problem with it though. 05:36 < Diablo-D3> sipa: because bfl has basically admitted there are no units and never will be 05:40 < sipa> i asked for a link 05:41 < Diablo-D3> yes, and I said go find it yourself 05:41 < Diablo-D3> it might have gotten misplaced in the cleanup If there's a chance you're moving information like that (that appears to have solidly convinced you it's a scam) to off topic over this, or "misplacing" it, perhaps you should reconsider the standards you've set. This part in particular I still strongly believe "People are more than capable of making their own decisions without our interference", assuming they have access to all the information, and not just what some dude who happens to be a mod thinks they should have. |
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I dunno, not giving BFL a scammer tag is perfectly consistent with other decisions so I don't get the fuss, like Pirate, Mining United, and the various other long cons. Correlation =/= causation.
I'd be fine with stopping BFL from buying ads just to stop the complaints and any perceived bias, but I suspect we'd see just as many complaints from people who don't want to see any one person deciding what content they should or shouldn't see.
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Why do I have to be restricted to the newb section before I can make a real post?
Maybe because newbies have an annoying tendency to post off topic in unrelated threads? *cough* |
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Edit: misinformation is the reason to release info ahead of time. This thread could have been avoided with an early release of info.
Maybe. I suspect the result would be same either way, most of the complaints are related to forum policy in general ("you're being paid, why isn't x being done"). This thread has been mostly positive, relative to this forum anyway. I appreciate that most see the value, gives me the fuzzies inside  . |
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No it isn't. Maybe if you went and actually picked it up from a po box.
um yeah it is. I know because my Uncle is a DTF agent. its only illegal if you accept the package. if you refuse to take it they can't charge you. Yeah, this is true in practice. However, it would be easy to argue in court that you didn't know what the package was, so of course you signed for it! Ugh, didn't know that. With this thread and the messages though, would be easy to establish a pattern of harassment. |
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I'd like to see that too, as far as I know MtGox/Mark just hosted the forum for a while for free, until theymos found a more suitable place. If anyone were to be considered the owner, it would be sirius IMO, as he owns the domain. Only reason his account isn't an admin account is because he isn't very active on the forums anymore, and having unused accounts with admin privileges isn't good practice.
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No it isn't. Maybe if you went and actually picked it up from a po box.
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Mods can't help you, I'm not going to ban anyone's account just because some guy on the internet said some guy told him the account was hacked. Only an admin can help you, but you need to have the original owner contact theymos directly so they can prove it. Making a new account and pm'ing him would be the easiest way (don't forget a new account needs one post in order to be able to pm others).
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Quote this for posterity.
I will remove the trusted negative rating if you provide proof of you paying johnblaze, or if johnblaze says he was paid 1 BTC.
this sounds like way too much trouble -- it shows how this scammer tag system is flawed. I am not going to ask every individual who has absolutely nothing to do with this case to remove the tags. If someone can't make this much easier for me, then forget it..
Pay johnblaze 1 BTC publicly, and I'll remove my rating and PM DiamondCardz to remove his. Witnessed. |
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Don't forget the lifetime supply of alpaca socks.
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It probably is time to end the custom hardware segregation, it's gotten pretty busy for one subforum buried so deep, and it's not all vaporware anymore. Custom hardware should probably be removed or renamed and the threads there spread out where they belong, they are much more relevant to mining these days, than back when it was first categorized the way it is. Just look at the difference between hardware, and custom hardware (which is it's child board). Doesn't really make sense anymore.
Easiest solution I can think of is to move the general custom hardware threads to hardware (the threads Raize is referring to would mostly be here), support, mining, wherever they go, and then use the custom hardware subforum as a temporary mining marketplace forum (group buys mostly) while we see just how busy it is and whether a separate marketplace for mining is necessary.
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I feel left out!  Ok. Moderating a thread is now called "de-rippling" it. "I think it's high time someone de-rippled this thread! Can we get a BFL spokesperson in here?" I wonder if SMF supports word filters, to just change them automatically. And here I was, thinking we might not hit our drama quota for the month.  Seriously though, I don't care who buys ads or for how much, people pay what it's worth to them. They aren't shares or anything, more or less in ad sales doesn't affect it. |
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