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1921  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Most profit coins today on: January 29, 2017, 02:02:09 PM
thanx btw whats your power usage on R9 290?   
one more thing I pmed you .. pls check it Smiley
It's very high. Don't have wattmeter, so can't say how much from the wall, but gpu-z says 210W per gpu.

for those who don't have watt-meter plugs.

do it the old fashion/cheaper way

buy a good 20-30$ clamp ammeter with voltmeter (all in one), a custom made extension cord (where you can split the wires so you can easily clamp the ammeter would be handy). 

measure the amps and measure the voltage.

formula:
amps X volts = watts



For the same price you can almost obtain a wattmeter, even though it's not very precise it can do the job in an easier way

from where i live, those wattmeters are not available...maybe some people here already have one and they just have to use it but didn't think about it yet ... in my case i just figured it out since i already have those tools in hand.
1922  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Most profit coins today on: January 29, 2017, 08:36:00 AM
thanx btw whats your power usage on R9 290?   
one more thing I pmed you .. pls check it Smiley
It's very high. Don't have wattmeter, so can't say how much from the wall, but gpu-z says 210W per gpu.

for those who don't have watt-meter plugs.

do it the old fashion/cheaper way

buy a good 20-30$ clamp ammeter with voltmeter (all in one), a custom made extension cord (where you can split the wires so you can easily clamp the ammeter would be handy). 

measure the amps and measure the voltage.

formula:
amps X volts = watts

1923  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PASC] PascalCoin, deletable blockchain & bank account system [PASA] on: January 28, 2017, 07:48:17 AM
Can any body elaborate me what is difference between PASCAL COIN and PASCAL ACCOUNT. I am keep confusing about it when people talking about pascal account. Some people are telling we sold three account for 1ETH very confusing.

every block mined (100 pascal coins) the miner also gets a corresponding 5 pascal accounts (pascal accounts comes with the coins thru mining).

like this


pascal accounts are the addresses where you store your coins BTW.

So the person who has pascal account will he get 5 pascal for free with out doing any mining is that right. So what is the price of pascal account now, is there any body selling pascal account.

the person who is mining will get coins (100 per block) and accounts (5 per block) as a reward...again i will reiterate, accounts and coins are the reward for mining..


on the other hand..
with pools going online, i guess the pools will get all the accounts..the coins are the only payout to miners..

hmmm maybe miners are ignoring pascal accounts like they are nothing valuable...and maybe suddenly boom! people are panicking again and miners are demanding pascal accounts from pools..and we see another shitstorm again LOL!

i don't know how the free market will react to trading accounts, how valuable are they? will they be traded like currency on exchanges? ..... currently for every 100 pascal coins emitted there are only 5 accounts emitted too.
1924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PASC] PascalCoin, deletable blockchain & bank account system [PASA] on: January 28, 2017, 05:51:42 AM
Can any body elaborate me what is difference between PASCAL COIN and PASCAL ACCOUNT. I am keep confusing about it when people talking about pascal account. Some people are telling we sold three account for 1ETH very confusing.

every block mined (100 pascal coins) the miner also gets a corresponding 5 pascal accounts (pascal accounts comes with the coins thru mining).

like this


pascal accounts are the addresses where you store your coins BTW.
1925  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: PASCAL ACCOUNT TRADING THREAD on: January 28, 2017, 05:24:09 AM
Sold all my accounts.

Basically got 133333-53 left

Going to sell this one for 0.1 BTC since its very easy to remember.


early adopters accounts would be better since it consists of fewer numbers  Wink
1926  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PASC] PascalCoin, deletable blockchain & bank account system [PASA] on: January 28, 2017, 12:08:10 AM
with pools going active, is pascal coin worthy of solo mining? like was with ETH back then (chances of getting more coins doing solo instead of using pools).

any opinion on minimum hash rate for solo mining?

BTW it is also good to look at your wallet "current target" like 31B0B194 and your miner should have the same target. seen my miner with different target and i have to restart the miner to have the right target.
1927  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: my seasonic platinum power supply charred and broken, just share my experience on: January 26, 2017, 10:52:00 AM
Yeah I melted that psu exactly like that.

USE EVGA p2's   they work better

Dosent have to do with PSUs...he clearly overloaded his Molex line with 3 or 4 riser cards.

First thought as well. I only ever put 2 cards per SATA/Molex cable.

same opinion here, sata connection overloaded with cards...2 is still somewhat safe, if you could do it with 1 card per sata cable the better.
1928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PascalCoin OpenCL mining on: January 26, 2017, 03:30:30 AM
I can't even start the wallet on Linux.

EDIT: Managed it, but no linux miner.

nice.. caught the eye of wolf0  Cool

we need to have quallity miners and pools for this coin.
1929  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: What is a PascalCoin and how is Poloniex scamming you? on: January 25, 2017, 12:56:59 PM
when i read that pascalcoin was added in poloniex i opened my pascalcoin wallet...waited and waited for the wallet to connect to the network, after connecting i test send two batch of 100 coins, when i see my coins entering, i send the rest of my coins, they all got in and then profit  Grin .. i think my deposits was one of the earliest that got in..i was looking at pascal coin thread where people are trying to send coins to poloniex and i was looking at poloniex with 0 pascalcoins at the sell side of the exchange, traders there are trolling each other putting orders for 3000 btc, 1337 btc, 5000 btc valuation... i think what happened is a whales game in general.


i remember when cryptsy added vertcoin, i made a test deposit and it got in, when i send the rest of my vertcoins they stopped it from entering for hours and hours, i'm not alone when that happened (there is a thread here in btctalk about that fiasco)... never used cryptsy since that incident and i moved to poloniex. poloniex was still a small shitcoin exchange back then where traders says "WHOA!" to a 1 btc buy order haha.

1930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: What is a PascalCoin and how is Poloniex scamming you? on: January 25, 2017, 02:03:50 AM

Did I miss anything?


this is what you missed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1583719.0 Wink
1931  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PACS Mining using GPU? Claymore any interest? on: January 24, 2017, 11:03:36 PM
miners devs PASC is another coin to mine  Cool
1932  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PASC] PascalCoin, deletable blockchain & bank account system [PASA] on: January 24, 2017, 09:28:53 AM
how to know that solo mining is working, we simply wait for "Blocks found: 1"?

aside from seeing that you are hashing...yes
1933  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PASC] PascalCoin, deletable blockchain & bank account system [PASA] on: January 24, 2017, 09:25:53 AM
Hi, i have a problem with pascalcoin wallet, Tonight, when I slept i lost my pascal account. Wallet running on my pc, i slept. Morning wallet i try send my coin to exchange and wallet say: Private key not dound in the wallet. I have only one private key all time, no changes. I lost 55000 pascalcoins? all my account before 23.1. disappeared. Only new accont are fine.
Pls help dev.

check "explore accounts with one of the wallet keys"
1934  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PASC] PascalCoin, deletable blockchain & bank account system [PASA] on: January 24, 2017, 08:37:06 AM
time to talk to our miners developers at altcoins mining section of this board  Cool

go PASC!
1935  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PASC] PascalCoin, deletable blockchain & bank account system [PASA] on: January 24, 2017, 08:24:53 AM
EPIC!!

Pretty much INSTANT ROI not only on a GPU but on a ENTIRE RIG!



LOL!! ROI?? with my core2duo and core2quad CPUs  Grin

i will buy AMD VEGA (when released) with the profit from those processors or build a NVIDIA rig  Grin
1936  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PASC] PascalCoin, deletable blockchain & bank account system [PASA] on: January 24, 2017, 07:58:14 AM
Hi there, how can I mine this coin, wallet says: "No JSON-RPC Clients".
Are there any external miners?

miner developers and pools will be interested to work for PASC.. if this get enough marketcapitalization.
1937  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PASC] PascalCoin, deletable blockchain & bank account system [PASA] on: January 24, 2017, 07:17:00 AM
PASC hit .02  Grin


PANIC !
1938  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PASC] PascalCoin, deletable blockchain & bank account system [PASA] on: January 24, 2017, 06:08:44 AM
PAAAAANNIIIIIC!!  Cheesy  hehehe...congrats. a unique coin worthy of Poloniex!
1939  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash PR rep got destroyed on this interview on: January 24, 2017, 02:03:56 AM
i am thinking of making a thread about this (me and my friends will have a little party again  Cheesy )...this angle is not discussed openly.. masternodes was secretly hidden from the public's eye for 1 month by Evan and co. after instamining they accumulated more and more Xcoin/darkcoin/DASH before they announced they will POS the coin by making masternodes Wink ... He (Evan) even said "but I think it’s not important to the discussion" ..you sly rat  Cool

tip: for easy/quick reading just check the "red" words and dates.

this will give you folks a different angle on the instamine (crosspost from why dash instamine matters thread)

dash's first month


Ok I get it now. So it is no good. But can anyone explain why the price is rising?

It's rising because it's one of the most coherent monetary assets on coinmarketcap, being that it retains bitcoin's blokchain transparency while improving massively on its fungibility to the point that distinguishing characteristics between addresses are effectively eliminated.

Further, Dash has established a balanced approach between reserve and currency markets thats almost unmatched by any other cryptocurrency asset. That's to say that while some proportion of the coin supply is made available by holders on exchanges for trading, a significant proportion of the rest of it is deployed on the network and earns a return for its holders.

This is in fact not really true.  The coins held in Master nodes are not production investment that earns interest as in a normal currency reserve system, where "saving" is in fact (delegated) investment in production capital.  In other words, "saved" money in a normal monetary economy are not "put in a box" but are again actively used by entrepreneurs to buy production capital.  That money keeps flowing, in other words, it is not locked up in a box as is the case in a Master node.

The "interest earning" in Master nodes is nothing else but a re-distribution of seigniorage by mining ; in other words, a tax on every currency holder, that goes in the pockets of Master node holders: a transfer of wealth from active users to "passive possessors".

In a normal economy, the interest earned comes from the risk taken.  A master node locked up doesn't take the slightest bit of risk but earns 45% of the seigniorage.

You can say that in bitcoin too, there is inflation because of mining.  However, because in bitcoin, the full seigniorage goes to the miner, that miner will also be pushed by competition to BURN most of the seigniorage in PoW.  In DASH, because the miner will only receive 45% of the seigniorage, competition will only make him burn 45% of the seigniorage in PoW, and the rest goes in the pockets of Master nodes and the "gouvernors".  Now, that is EXTREMELY SIMILAR to central banking and their interest rates on issued currency feeding a whole bunch of elite with free money, taxed by inflation on all the others.

In bitcoin, at least, this "tax" is entirely (or almost entirely) burned by PoW, so there is not really a self-accumulation of wealth without risk by the "richies of the first hour(s)".

Also because of this lucrative locking up of a large part of the money supply in master nodes, the ACTUAL available market cap of DASH is way lower than is calculated, because the available coin supply is seriously lower than the total number of coins existing.  

But all this is not to point out that DASH is a kind of rip off.  There is simply no other way to do some form of automated secured coinjoin mixing with bitcoin technology: you need "trusted parties", and so you need to provide them with sufficient incentive to do so (the master nodes).  This implies re-centralisation, governance, and hence, taxes and lucrative happenings for the elite which get richer.

The remaining question is how many master nodes are under independent control.  If that number is too small, then the anonymity of the mixing becomes compromised too.




masternodes are already in plan even before they launched dash....hence the importance of the instamine to grab an astounding amount of dash

This is another lie (a lie you like to repeat again and again). I know because I was there.

Anyone can read the Dash thread from day one to check.


here goes... get ready for some ass whoopin! and check the dates


Great, now that everything is stable, I'll be posting later about the vision of this project and milestones! Time to move on to actually implementing what I set out to do.

this is posted after the 48hr instamine

ka ching! Evan and his friends pocketed a lot of coins.... great indeed very great Evan *clap* *clap*

aaaaannd before he posted this (quote below)

Evan already forked DASH from 84 Million supply to about 21 Million

and you can see him posting, WTB 20,000 and WTB 10,000 DASH  <------ the greed of this guy knows no boundary  Grin

and then this! (the vision of this project and milestones)

In reply to: http://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/comments/1yit1a/using_coinjoin_for_anonymity_is_errorprone/

I'm posting this here, for everyone's benefit. Thanks!

Quote
Hi, I am Gnosis, the Anoncoin developer working on implementing Zerocoin. First of all, I think it is excellent that there is so much interest in developing a fully anonymous currency. I am not just a developer but also a user, or I will be when an anonymous currency exists! When coin creators compete, the coin users win!
However, CoinJoin has been around for a while, and it has not seen much use for anonymity. There's a good reason for that: it's not very anonymous.
Quoting my bitcointalk post:
Quote
CoinJoin has questionable anonymity compared to Zerocoin. The reason is that with CoinJoin, two or more users must somehow partner up and forge a transaction together. They communicate over a secure channel to do this. The coins are only mixed among these "partners." Picking partners you can trust is a significant obstacle: how can you know that your partners will "forget" the mixing that happened? One may try to repeat this 10 times with randomly chosen partners, but how can you know that your partners are not all just sock puppets of one malicious entity (on an anonymous network, it is trivial to create as many fake users as you want )? If that is the case, then your efforts are in vain.
Compare this with Zerocoin, where you put your coins in an accumulator, and they are mixed with the coins of all users who have put coins into that accumulator, since the beginning of Zerocoin. There would be a different accumulator for different denominations of Anoncoins (1, 5, 10, 50 ANC, etc.).
To put it simply, the more users' coins your coins are mixed with, the more anonymity you have.
I cannot speak to Darkcoin's implementation (or planned implementation) of CoinJoin since I cannot seem to find any specs or code on their Github or their site. If anyone knows, please point me to them.
I look forward to a practical and secure solution for anonymity from the DarkCoin devs! Smiley

First off, these are fantastic questions. The answer to implementing this in such a way where it is very difficulty to exploit is by adding cost and verification.

Here’s the gist of how I envision DarkSend to work in the long run. Some of what I’m going to mention is done, some of it I’m working on currently. I’d love some ideas on possible attack vectors on my implementation, so we can make it as bulletproof as possible.

Pools

DarkSend adds various extensions to the Bitcoin protocol for implementing transaction pooling. Like normal Coinjoin the pools take transactions in stages. The stages currently are:

POOL_STATUS_IDLE
POOL_STATUS_ACCEPTING_INPUTS
POOL_STATUS_ACCEPTING_OUTPUTS
POOL_STATUS_SIGNING
POOL_STATUS_TRANSMISSION

So the users relay these items throughout the network as the stages happen. After all items are gathered into the pool, the transactions are merged together into one, remotely signed and then broadcasted.

Masters

To defeat propagation problems, master nodes are elected each new block. They are responsible for being the authority of what goes into the joined transaction each session. This is done in a tamperproof way, but I think it’s not important to the discussion.


So what is the cost?

There must be a cost to using this anonymous network, otherwise like you say there will be issues with millions of accounts popping up. I’m not dead set on which solution(s) to implement, but here’s a couple ideas:

Burnt Identities

Higher difficulty shares to the current block would be mined and then stored in the blockchain permanently. Multiple of these would be used for each transaction and would be “burnt” when misused, causing the attacker to have to mine them again.  

Verification?

To use the pools it will require unique unspend outputs, someone that wants to mess with the system would have to have a large pool of funds in many addresses. So to attack a pool with 100 slots, you would require funds dispersed to 99 addresses, on 99 nodes working in common.

Other possible fee-less solutions?

There is interesting research on protecting against sybil attacks that lends itself really well to a decentralized ledger, such as this paper:

http://dimacs.rutgers.edu/Workshops/InformationSecurity/slides/gamesandreputation.pdf

The idea is to build a social graph of the inputs and outputs of each entry and they should all know different people. If 99 of them all have the same “friends” that they associate with, then they’ll have to enter a different pool. Which will ensure the pool is not full of the nodes belonging to the attacker.

An application for machine learning?

I’m been making models for trading equities for over 7 years now. I ran a financial firm that sold the signals for a few years and I have experience with natural language processing using classifiers. So, I could make a classifier and actually embed it into Darkcoin to determine which pool a node should use, to separate out nodes that seem to be in common.

Other ideas?

I’m open to ideas on how to provide the best security to the network. I would love to hear what people have in mind.

I’ve been working on DarkSend about a month and we’ve already fixed the decentralization and propagation issues, this is just another bridge to cross in the future.

Thanks!

BOOM! a month after the launch date (instamine), accumulation and forking the coin...GREAT indeed Evan *clap* *clap*


postlude...


it is not about just bugs in the code, its about how sneaky and untrustworthy dash beginnings is.
1940  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash rep got destroyed on this interview on: January 23, 2017, 05:13:40 PM

seen all your tricks  Cool

Well none of mine are as effective as that little "squiggle" on your flowchart.

That sure is a handy tool for when you're short on cognizance Wink



well.. that little "squiggle" is as simple as it gets to explain your dead end pursuit for technological advancement...your shitcoin is outdated, lost to innovation... that's what you get when you can't build your coin from scratch in the beginning, cloning bitcoin and building on top of it's code base, the algo was taken from quark's 6 hashing algo (X6) and made it X11, hell can't even think of a name for your coin(stole dashcoin's name), did you know darkcoin name was still not Evan and co. original name? it was taken from a coin that didn't launch..

....speaking of being "short on cognizance Wink" LOL
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