You seem to think we're private detectives, or the cops. How are we supposed to know what they're doing? Open an investigation? Flash our moderator badge and hand over our BITCOINTALK.ORG warrant? If people feel comfortable leaving their money with them, that's fine and dandy by me, who the hell are we to stop them? People ask for refunds, they get them back. If they stop getting them back, or BFL disappears, then it's time for a scammer tag.

This is a forum, not a police station. Or a nursery for that matter.

I split the thread again. Let's try and keep stuff where it goes this time.

You're doing a lot of damage to yourself and your website painting anyone who critiques you as a 'potential scammer'.  I hope you deal with actual alleged scammers better than this, cause if those go the same way you conduct yourself here, then I don't see how anyone can take your website seriously.

A scammer database is a good idea, you don't seem to be open minded enough to be able to run it though.

That account also posted in the "day trading bots" thread, so probably the same person/group.

Pm theymos, and hope he believes you.

Kinda setting the bar a little high I guess, expected a bit more effort from the OP. If you're gonna do something, do it right, don't halfass it.

I prefer the different colors actually, makes it easier to skim over them.

It's new, if you could build it up that fast it'd be useless.

I thought this was a serious site until I saw the AAA rating crap.

And yes, polls are an idiotic way to decide if someone is a scammer. I can guarantee most of the people voting are biased in some way, don't know all the facts, hit a button cause it's prettier than the others, etc. Not to mention how easy it is to game a poll. If you aren't going to take it seriously, I don't know how you can be surprised that others aren't.

And shrugging off valid criticism with 'you're such a scammer' shows how easy it is to sway your opinion with zero facts.

Buy mbtc then 

Before you bust out the pitchforks, that's a user's mockup. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=222887.0

He's saying Thylight is lying about receiving a loan from BCB For fake rep.

You can't censor other people's feedback, that would make it worthless.  

Same, I regularly use three different devices. If logging in from one logs me from from another that will be annoying.

The guy who posted it removed it, which is his right if that's what he wants.

I'd be very wary, no escrow no deal.

If there are blackmailers, people can post their information and they will be removed from any trust lists they're on. Untrusted feedback should be looked at critically, since you don't "trust" the person who left it. 

And this actually makes for less work, will make the scammer tag much less necessary (which was heavily reliant on admins/mods). 

Just highlighting the ridiculous part of your argument. Scammer tags are for provable scams, not "potentially in the future fraud".

Just my opinion. I don't think the forum should be the judge, jury, and executioner in situations where we don't have access to all the information. Courts work because they can order records and compel information, we can't/won't. Scammer tag was never intended for these types of situations, and trying to make the square peg fit in a round hole will probably do more damage than it will solve.


I don't care about preorders. If they were denying refunds as well, or making zero progress (they have made some) that would be a different story, but they aren't. People are more than capable of getting their money back any time they please. And yes I know it's dollar denominated, every business does that, even outside the "bitcoin world". Kinda seems hypocritical to ask for a scammer tag, while at the same time willingly allowing them to hold onto your money (yes I know you don't have an order with them, I mean in general).



I never bought his bullshit excuse of separate forum accounts. Inaba=Josh=whatever he is of BFL.
I brought up that there are many others deserving of scammer tags who don't have them because you acting like they're special or unique. I guess if you only spend all your time in the custom hardware forum it might seem like a big special deal to you, but it barely registers in the big picture. I don't know how it can be considered a bet when nobody even took it, there was no counterparty, so scammer tag seems a little extreme.

And yes, murder is totally comparable  . Get a grip.


Might be an issue, we'll cross that bridge when we get there. For now I think it's a good replacement for the scammer tag system.

Showing newbies that the account they're trading with has no trust or rep is 'working' don't you think?

And BFL is hardly the only one to not get a scammer tag, going by your standards coinabul and bitinstant should probably have one as well. Not speaking for theymos, but the acammer tag isn't appropriate for businesses in general, shouldn't be judged by one action. Newegg and amazon would probably have scammer tags if everything was as black and white as it seems to be in your world.