@Z
I stopped listening to Fyrstikken after the Electric Volt and CryptoRush debacles.
I haven't watched that video. Has he redeemed himself?
Scummy scammy past. (And some very weird religio videos back in the day). But this video is crypto gold. Funny is funny and stikken nail'd it. Even if he might be a viking Bernie Madoff. Anyone who takes crypto advice from a crazy Viking is asking for trouble. He posted this video about UNO 1 year and 3 days ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOXnOdTBJcoI still enjoy this one. It's a classic. The best advice he ever gave.  Convinced me to go all-in on Uno |
|
|
|
Funniest thing I've seen this year!  Ok, the year is only a few days old, but Fyrstikken cracked me up. He seems lost. Someone tell him to come back to UNO! |
|
|
|
Uncle Bryce tweeting about one of his "top of the list" favorite projects.  |
|
|
|
Hey guys, Bittrex could use some attention. There's good orders on the buy side, but a very weak sell side. Doesn't anybody want to sell a little UNO?? Man alive, this not a problem very many cryptos face: too many buyers, not enough sellers. It's a uniquely Unobtanium problem. Anyway, if you could spare a few to sell on Bittrex, we could really use it. How about it "Mr. 688 Uno Wallet?" Can you take a little profit here? I'm not Mr. 688, but I bought up enough $UNO to hit the daily minimum... A tip o'the hat to you, Sir! |
|
|
|
Hey guys, Bittrex could use some attention. There's good orders on the buy side, but a very weak sell side. Doesn't anybody want to sell a little UNO?? Man alive, this not a problem very many cryptos face: too many buyers, not enough sellers. It's a uniquely Unobtanium problem. Anyway, if you could spare a few to sell on Bittrex, we could really use it. How about it "Mr. 688 Uno Wallet?" Can you take a little profit here? |
|
|
|
Did you know that with some radioactive elements the half life has been shown to REVERSE?
Just my noob thoughts!...0.00312...0.00625....0.1250...0.2500....
Isn't that just a function of hitting a denser portion of space-time? I have not seen any public comments from blazr2 or Mr. Weiner about the merge mining. FK, have you heard anything? @Bitcoincharlie, I posted earlier (way back there somewhere) that Bryce emailed me saying he thought the idea of AuthPow/Btc has merit. He had already given it some thought. He has experience doing this with his Blake256 coin Dirac. He would like to hear what Blazr2 is thinking before proceeding. Meanwhile, I'm extremely pleased and excited to see all of the constructive talk here. This has turned into a wonderful educational opportunity for all of us. If you don't agree with me, I'm totally fine with that. We can continue the discussion, and vet the idea. Maybe a better way will surface. If you guys want to move ahead with contacting other devs to merge mine against Uno, go for it. I won't take the lead on it as I've already walked down that road without success, but neither will try to stop you. Maybe you'll fare better than I did. I'll try to help by leaving my previously mentioned bounty on the table. I just have come to believe that AuthPow/Btc is the best option I've seen so far, but my mind is still open. But I have to say, your interest and concern blow me away. You have taken ownership of Uno! It's YOUR coin. That's so cool. The worst thing that could have happened is to have this dicusion, but nobody cares. I knew that wouldn't happen, though. I'm also very pleased the tone of the the discussion; the Uno community knows how to disagree without being, well, you know. Btw, mazacoin was mentioned: I had not reached out to them. My guess is that (whatever coin community you reach out to) you'll probably be met with a little bit of indignation and the suggestion that Uno should MM with them. |
|
|
|
@rojan that's an interesting chart. YOY Uno is up about $160k, and that's after passing through a big inflationary phase. Where are they now? Here's a look back at our 2014 neighborhood on CMC. ALL of our 2014 neighbors have moved out. This pic shows 2014 rank on CMC, and the current rank today.  What's In YOUR Crypto? (sorry for the crappy pic). |
|
|
|
Unobtanium is up $160k year over year. It's holding value well, especially considering it past through a inflationary period during 2014. http://unobtanium.uno |
|
|
|
|
That will make otc trades a lot easier. I always had trouble understanding what was open/closed. This will will help a lot. Good one, cragv!
|
|
|
|
Yeah, I've seen us hover in that vicinity for a few days. Just wish our market caps were the same, not the price of each coin!  It is a similar difference Yeah if our market cap was as high as ltc we would all be much happier, but even still, having price parity with ltc is a pretty awesome thing. Well not if you are holding ltc after buying at 40 but if ya mined Uno when it was in its infancy it is sorta cool. It is good to see active conversation about securing the future of Uno. What is the real worry about securing the network though? Are we concerned that someone is going to 51% attack the uno chain? It is only of real benefit if you are doing transactions. You would have to have a sum of Uno that is large enough to make the 51% attack worthwhile. I guess someone could do it, just to do it, but i don't think it would be the best use of that individuals efforts. Is the concern that no one will mine Uno in the future and eventually the chain will grind to a halt? Taking this one step at a time is most likely the best bet. No need to rush into merged mining just because it is what the other cool kids are doing. The longer we wait the cheaper and more efficient hardware becomes and the easier it then becomes to support the network. I can see everyone working really hard to get merged mining done and then in 6 months from now someone releases yet another new technology that makes merged mining a thing of the past, and there we will be, working towards that new goal. From a logical standpoint, if i ignore my amorous feelings towards Uno, it makes sense that Uno would be the coin merging into another coin, btc or what ever. The rewards are so low right now for Uno that it just "doesn't pay" to mine the coin. Easy fix, just toss a bunch of capital into uno then, to make it worth peoples time. lol. So much easier said than done. Even with 100 coins merged into the chain that i get as a byproduct of mining uno, that doesn't add any extra value to uno imo. Right now you could pretty much double the hashrate for zeta for under 3btc. So even securing the network, how much more secure is it really going to be if we did manage to merge others with us? Hi SirSmokes, good to see you back. We've missed you. >>What is the real worry about securing the network though? It would be a proactive move to secure the network and protect long term against low hash. Uno's next halving is coming in May. According to BN's schedule there are 2 halvings in 2015, and Uno will end the year with a block reward of .0078 Un. While we're gaining with low inflation, the network will be earning less Uno. The concern is what could happen to the hash when the price of Uno drops. Logically, hash will move to the more profitable coin. This could leave Uno vulnerable to a 51% attack. When Uno started off, it had a great message around a "Secure Network." I'd like to recapture that message. Implementing AuthPOW in Uno against Bitcoin would quickly see us begin to measure the strength of our network in Petahashes (thousands of Terrahashes), rather than Terrahashes that I can count on my fingers & toes. I think it will make Uno more suitable for storing greater value in it's blockchain. It would move Uno into a different category of strongly secured coins. To do this will take some time. It's not instant to code it, test, and then roll out to the exchanges, pools, and recruit merge mine pools. We should do this before ther is a problem, not in reaction to a problem. It's a big deal that will take some time. If Blazr2/Bryce think it's a good move, I am at the point now where I can get 110% behind this. The way I see it, Merge Mining just means that our miners can get paid more for their hash. It doesn't put Bitcoin in charge. It doesn't obligate Uno to Bitcoin. It erases one of Bitcoin's big advantages over Uno. It removes the one big uncertainty about Uno's future (network hash as halving continues). It puts Uno into a different category of strong hash coins. It pays miners more. This approach seems to have the largest payoff for Uno for the effort expended. There's no need to work so hard to pull hash away from Bitcoin when it's there for the taking. |
|
|
|
I don't know, man. It's still a ton of work for very little hash. Even if you scoop up all of hash for all of the smallcap coins out there, it doesn't amount to much. Then there's the matter of convincing pool ops to take it on. I was once an activist on the plan to get other coins to mm with Uno, but then after going out and talking to different coin devs and trying to convince them, I have become much less optimistic it is viable. I would sure welcome any coin to authpow with Uno, but you'll have to show me one first. I couldn't find one, maybe someone else can. My bounty still stands. I've come around to thinking differently about hash. There's no ego in it. Hash is hash is hash. It goes to where it can make money. And it's not "Bitcoin's network." No, it's really just "Miners mining for profit." They would be glad to also mine Uno at the same time because it makes them more profitable. The hashes don't care -- if they work with a Uno block, that's great. And Uno doesn't care, just as long as the hash fits. We're just talking about securing the value of your Uno in the blockchain. There's no defeat whatsoever in choosing to authpos with Btc. Hash doesn't care. I've been pushing the idea of "altruistic hash" around Uno, and have spent money with a cloud miner to keep hash on Uno at all times. The capitalist in me would much rather mine both Btc & Uno together, and maybe some other useful coins to boot, especially since Uno is generally less profitable to mine than Bitcoin. Even if we go to authpos with bitcoin, I'll still retain my unhealthy emotional attachment to Uno, and I will choose a pool that merge mines Uno, but at least I'll get paid more. And when Uno becomes more profitable to mine than Bitcoin? Even better! Miners can earn more money. But nothing really has to change. It doesn't matter, so long as there's enough hash to keep Uno secure. AuthPos with Btc is something our devs could do to secure Uno. AuthPos with Uno is something we have to wait for others to do to secure Uno. I would love Blazr2 to weigh in on it. BW thinks it might be the way to go. But none of this is up to me. |
|
|
|
|
If I am ZET's dev, why would I auxpow with Uno, instead of just going directly to BTC?
It's the same amount of work for me, and I have to fork. What advantage would I perceive in choosing Uno instead of Bitcoin?
|
|
|
|
if we implement auxpow with btc we wouldn't have to sacrifice the 3-minute-blocks or would we?
This auxpow is does not exist (yet). I am not a fan of auxpow off the BTC network. Because that means we give up on the 'Fair' part of Uno. I suggest creating something that lets others tap into Aux Uno. I saw this as an interesting comment BN. How is securing the network with auxpow giving up on the Fair part of Uno? I don't see it that way, but would like to understand why you do. To me the fair aspects of Uno were created by Blazr2 at launch, and I don't see as something that can be lost. Am I wrong? On that last point -- any coin can tap into and Auxpow Uno, but we haven't see that happen yet. I have approached probably 15 coin devs in the past 4 months about aux mining with uno, and even recently offered a bounty for the first coin to do it, but there haven't been any takers. Getting others to auxpow with Uno isn't within our control. But doing auxpow/btc is within our control. Uno becomes part of a small group of coins that are secured by immense power. If I'm a miner (and I am) I have a greater chance at profitability by mining several coins simultaneously. I think... let us duke it out with Bitcoin on fairness, rarity, community, store-of-value, but not on network security. Today we lose the nework security argument to them. But reaching a virtual parity with Bitcoin on network security is within our grasp through auxpow, and eliminates that weakness for Uno. I haven't been able to see the downside of this yet, but I'm still looking hard for one. |
|
|
|
vote, vote, vote 100 votes counted. Don't fall behind bitcoin! done Done Done Done. Thanks Balu2 |
|
|
|
I'm glad we can discuss this openly. Anything impacting Uno in a such a big way should be vetted by the community.
It's a good exercise to talk it out. You guys raised merged mining previously as an option. If it's a bad idea, I'm sure someone will point out exactly why. That's why it's open source.
If Blazr/Bryce decide to do it, we should all understand it enough to be able to embrace the decision. Maybe they'll come along and sink the entire idea with one sentence. It's their judgement that matters here more than mine. But if there's a better way, we should find it.
Two notes to add to the Merged Mining/AuthPow discussion. First, I heard from Bryce, and he has already been considering Merged Mining Uno with Bitcoin. He thinks it could be a good long term solution to hash concerns. He wants to look into it further, but seemed very positive on it. He also said he would like to hear Blazr2's thoughts on this, as would I. A couple of his Blake256 coins are merged mined, so Bryce he has good experience with doing this. Second, I received a reply from one of the pools I reached out to about merged mining. Mmpool.org said they would be very likely to add Uno if/when authopow becomes available. They currently mine at about 235 ths, 10x our present hash. It's not a done deal, but there seems to be a growing consensus that it's a promising option. I am convinced that we as a community can pull this off if it's implemented. |
|
|
|
Ok, back to the present moment.  There's good news for miners with Scrypt and X11 hash who want to accumulate Uno.  |
|
|
|
|
I'm glad we can discuss this openly. Anything impacting Uno in a such a big way should be vetted by the community.
It's a good exercise to talk it out. You guys raised merged mining previously as an option. If it's a bad idea, I'm sure someone will point out exactly why. That's why it's open source.
If Blazr/Bryce decide to do it, we should all understand it enough to be able to embrace the decision. Maybe they'll come along and sink the entire idea with one sentence. It's their judgement that matters here more than mine. But if there's a better way, we should find it.
|
|
|
|
|
Show Posts
