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21  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: June 08, 2024, 09:39:40 AM
So it is not that expert predictions are not right, but not all expert predictions will always be right. Some might make mistakes, and you that depend on them will be the ones at risk because an expert might give a game and still not play it because he is not fully sure, so you that will play the game will end up as the victim of their mistake.
IMO, it's better not to rely on these experts predictions and have your own analysis or understanding about the game that you're going to play. This way, you don't have to blame others if what you expected didn't happened. Because these experts are not so reliable, what I mean they can't be accurate all the time. Because if this is the case then they can make themselves rich for being at the winning side. So don't rely too much because in gambling you still need luck.
22  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is it possible to inherit a gambling debt? on: June 07, 2024, 10:17:30 PM
Inheriting gambling could be possible depending on whats the agreement of the debtor and the ones who grant it, if there would really be some agreement and signed
then if its stated then it would be responsible for them to pay up on what you have spent.
That's true. It would be wise to have a signed agreement with a collateral so just incase something unexpected happened, the lender can still get his money even after the death of the borrower. Because the debt can't be pass to the relatives unless the person has a properties left then that's where they'll get the money to be use to pay the loan. I'm not certain if this is the legal way but here this is what's happening. Especially if the lender can present an evidence that the person really have a loan from him before his passing.
23  Other / Off-topic / Re: Gambling is a fatal mistake on: June 07, 2024, 05:05:23 AM
Gambling is a fatal mistake and totally fatal in this case because he doesn't have a gambling budget and go all in this is common mistake but there are a lot of people can control of it and one of the reason is might he also cant control his emotion and chasing the losses
He was in another phase of addiction  which isn't even total addiction, it's incase might even be that he didn't spend it all and kept the remaining  to gamble again or he just ruined the whole money that night because he had the first hope of winning back his money some how...
Sometimes gambling comes with  luck, even with a budget once the luck is against you, the best advice it to pause and give it a try next time when the luck us fair Smiley
Probably he gamble believing he can double his money in snap. Then keep on betting to recover the losses until he lost all his funds. But as a guy with a family to feed, this action is really a negligence on his side for spending all of his salary in gambling. Regardless of the reason (and if he's addicted or not) he should know what to prioritize first, just shows how irresponsible he is.
24  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is getting addicted to gambling right or wrong? on: June 06, 2024, 09:44:43 PM
So, is it wrong to be too addicted to gambling? how can it be control or how can one manage gambling?
Well, not just in gambling, any form of addiction is not good because every aspect of our lives will become affected. It is wrong to let yourself become addicted since gamblers who don't have control tend to do anything just to sustain their addiction. Those who end up as an addicted gamblers are probably having a hard time changing themselves because they already develop such habit, and can't be overcome just by yourself and seeking professional help is already needed. Anyway, if you don't want to become addicted, have discipline, don't be greedy and desire to win a huge amount.
25  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can someone take gambling as a source of income to he/she life? on: June 06, 2024, 10:27:30 AM
As a main source of income? I don't think so and even others are fortunate to be lucky and win a decent amount, we know that's not the case for majority of gamblers. Therefore it's quite hard to make a living just by relying entirely on gambling. The reason why we often advice the gamblers to only use a spare money and have less expectation.

Gambling is not the answer to earn a stable income (that's the fact). If you're motivated that you can do it just because you see others won and became an instant rich, don't think the same fate will also happen to you because luck is still a major factor to win.
26  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online gambling increases computer education. on: June 05, 2024, 10:22:52 AM
Basic computer knowledge is not hard to learn if the person has an interest. So it's not limited to online gambling. Just like my mother, a 71 year old, she don't know how to use smartphone at first because she's not taking time to learn on how to use it since she has no interest. But when she became interested on uploading random videos of her as a vlogger, it didn't took her so long to became a pro using her mobile phone (even her laptop too).

Thus, what i'm saying is, though online gambling is the reason for some elders to learn about computer, the point is it depends on their interest and it's not only about gambling. Because there are other reasons for them to exert an effort to learn if they find something where they're interested in.
27  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you really want from gambling? on: June 05, 2024, 08:11:57 AM
1. What exactly do you want from gambling? Say it, even if it's something you don't think is possible to achieve.
Well, I envy those who became rich for winning in lottery. But then, I realized that it is not for everyone and having such mindset when you gamble is not a good idea. It can lead to addiction if you keep trying to achieve such goal. So even even if I want to, that's quite impossible.

2. What steps have you take to see if you can achieve that which you want from gambling?
I already set aside that eagerness and opted to play to have some fun using a small amount. Gambling is not the way to become rich. If you have such goal then strive and find a resources to make it happen.
28  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never borrow money to be able to gamble on: June 04, 2024, 10:41:18 PM
I will not totally agree with you on this assumption that gamblers that borrow money to gamble are foolish because if they are lucky to hit a jackpot, they can easily become rich and sort out all their financial problems, life is a risk, although the impact of borrowing to gamble is highly negative but not as bad as calling them foolish because some of them may be lucky to win from such risk.
They're not foolish and can be called a risk taker but, still, it is not advisable to borrow money to be able to gamble. Yes there's a possibility to hit a jackpot but what's the chances? Majority of gamblers are not fortunate and though there are some who made a decent profit, it is still not good to be too hopeful that same fate will happen to you.

But on a general note, borrowing to gamble with is a bad idea and should be discouraged, since only gambling addicts becomes so desperate to gamble to the point of going into debt, just to gamble it away, those category of gamblers can be referred to as you mentioned but not everyone.
Indeed. Don't ask for loan to sustain your gambling habit. Refrain from playing if you have no money because gambling is a game of luck. So it's better to gamble using your own money rather than asking for loan with a high expectation to win.
29  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did gambling losses are traps to new game on: June 04, 2024, 03:36:40 AM

Otherwise, losing more money is one of your considerations as you do it but I guess no one wants to lose forever and the cycle repeats back if you can't notice it.
All gamblers know about the 2 things you mentioned above, but unfortunately they don't prepare anticipatory steps to avoid gambling addiction, they are emotionally affected in gambling sessions because they don't get the expected wins. This defeat will have an impact on one of the factors above, they bet to recover their losses or they continue to gamble just for fun without setting a financial limit for gambling.
Losses can trigger a gambler to play again to recover what he lost with a high hopes to win. This mindset of a gambler who's unable to accept the result is not actually unusual since many gamblers are doing this believing it is the way to get their money back. One of the problem of gamblers who engage themselves in gambling not knowing the risk. Because if you know how gambling works and afraid to lose your money, then you'll not use a fund that you can't live without. Learn to control yourself by setting a limit if you don't want to face a serious problem due to your behavior towards gambling.
30  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do some people hide to gamble on: June 01, 2024, 11:40:08 PM
For us, we would agree that gambling is not a bad thing. But to non gamblers or those that have experienced bad thing about it will say that it is. And if you are saying about an entertainment, that is true. We gamble mostly for passing time and enjoyment.

Different people have different perspectives regarding to this industry,  and same with your argument for us who see  no harm with this activity its all good and there's no need to be ashamed if you are actively participating but for those who don't understand and don't have any idea about the entertainment or enjoyment then the view points will be in the negative side,  it's more on how you see the people that surrounded you and how you will deal from each types of opinions that they've got in terms of someone's participation to gambling.
I agree, we're all different and the point of view of everyone matters only for ourselves. If someone says that this is bad for them, that is because they think that it's bad for them and they have probably experienced bad out of it and that's nothing bad at all when someone tells his/her opinion about gambling. We also knew that but we're different from them because we all know how to control our matters compared to them that they have already judged gambling as if it's the baddest thing of them all. And that's why for some, it's best to hide it so that they will be able to avoid bashing.
I agree. Some people are giving opinion based on their experience and they know the effect of gambling for a gambler who don't have self- control. It's understandable that's why we can't blame the gamblers who opted to keep their gambling activity away to the eyes of many to avoid judgement. In this case, the online casinos are the best option if one prefer to play in private without anyone seeing that he is a gambler.
31  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you feel when you experience violence while gambling on: June 01, 2024, 10:44:13 PM
This is one of the thing that I usually avoid in gambling. It happens several times if you are in gambling house, you can experience a lot of fight and misunderstanding just because of the gambling or one or two issues that comes out from other gamblers. Maybe they are not understanding that serve just like what you explain, so sometimes we need to be careful very well
A gambler with such behavior is probably experiencing a loss resulting to changes in his mood. We know if a gambler win, the mood is happy. While if you lose that's depressing especially if you are a type of gambler who can't accept losses.

This can also cause a trouble or a misunderstanding since a gambler who lost his money is already in bad shape and can trigger for him to start a fight. But this is still depends on the gambler itself on how he handle himself despite of the bad experience in gambling.
32  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it proper for younger ones to gamble? on: May 31, 2024, 09:37:44 AM
Because nowadays the younger ones take gambling more seriously then school. Yesterday i got back home early so I decided to step out and go to a betting shop to catch some fun while gambling, I saw two teenagers gambling with their school uniforms on them.

I asked someone besides me why did they allow this boy's to come in with their uniforms and gamble, he said did they put any restrictions that younger ones are not allowed to gamble. I said but it's not normal, I replied him what if this are your kids would you be happy seeing them gambling with their uniforms on them. So what do you guys think about this situation at hand now.
Well here in my country minors are not allowed gambling with school uniforms and of course the age limit and even in computer shops they aren't allowed as well unless it's weekend or they are just doing projects not video games. This situation mostly happen in third world countries like mine.
Same here. Minors are not allowed to gamble especially if they are wearing their school uniform. The betting/computer shop will be in trouble if they let these minors enter in their shop. Anyway, it's understandable for these younger ones to be curious in gambling (and probably many of us also experienced such when we're young) so we really can't blame them especially if there are betting shop allowing them to gamble.

The proper guidance of the parents about gambling can help them to better understand its risk and what it can do to a person if they let themselves be hooked at an early age.
33  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many times all-in save your bankroll? on: May 31, 2024, 04:58:01 AM
I’ve done this several times and I manage to save my bankroll to profit/breakeven greater than suffering a total loss.
You are fortunate to have a positive result. Because doing this is quite risky, it's either you'll recover back what you have lost or end up with nothing. Going all in is for gambler who can accept the outcome regardless of if it's a win or lose.

What game is your favorite to do this and what’s your record so far if you can still track it?
I already did this in slots and Baccarat but often the result is not what I'd like it to be. Thus, I prefer to go with the flow using my normal bet and not be in desperate.
34  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who's winning more casinos or gamblers? on: May 30, 2024, 10:21:19 PM
The casino in this case is the provider of the gambling venue and also the dealer. If you say that the casino never loses, you are wrong, the casino will also often lose, especially if more and more players win the jackpot, they will run out of capital, then that is not arbitrary to open a casino, if you don't have enough capital then throw away your desire to open a casino, but if you have a large capital to open a casino business then just do it.
Indeed. Just like other business, casino can also face losses and that is when many gamblers are hitting a jackpot (as you've said) and it's a problem if the casino can't sustain this situation. The reason why it is crucial to have a decent capital before starting to build your own platform (or any kind of business).

On the other side, due to house edge, casino has an advantage against their customers that's why gamblers are losing than winning. One of the reason why for us gamblers it's important to only use what you can afford to lose since winning is not guaranteed and it can disappoint a gambler if you have high expectation to win.
35  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the main points of gambling? on: May 30, 2024, 11:37:17 AM
Every gamblers have reasons to gamble although some are being influenced to gamble and rat attraction is their main purpose gamble.
There's no dark world for a gambler to only realize he got into gambling without his consent just simply he lost. Perhaps even the experts gamblers feels sad at their lost at times but what matters is that you should also bet with that's affordable.
It's really sad to lose but that's part of gambling and a gambler should know this before deciding to engage himself. The problem is some gamblers became interested to play due to many advertisement showing a huge win that can attract people to try it for themselves. Then will be hopeful to win thinking it is quite easy after seeing the good side of being lucky. Not knowing many gamblers are just losing their money than gaining.

Thus, before trying to gamble your money, be certain that you are aware of the risk, prepared for the consequences just in case what you expected didn't happened and don't be greedy. If you lose accept it and move on.
36  Other / Off-topic / Re: Can anti gamblers accept cash from gamblers when they're in dire financial needs on: May 30, 2024, 02:58:26 AM
So I'm wondering in a scenerio where people with these anti gambling believes and mindset finds themselves in a situation where they perhaps needed to save a life urgently and what is needed is money for quick surgery. And the only person that volunteered to give the money is someone that says he/she won the money in gambling, I wonder if the anti gambling person in dire need will collect the money.
It's already an emergency situation to save life, even someone is an anti-gambler, I don't think he/she will refuse the money if saving the life of a loved one is more important than anything else. In times like this, if it happened to me and i'm against those gamblers spending their money in gambling, I will also swallow my pride and belief just to save the life of a person who's dear to me. It's between life and death so certainly what you can only think of is how to get money to save the life of the person.
37  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greediness or Addiction -which one is more disastrous? on: May 29, 2024, 10:18:03 PM
But addiction is a little disastrous, why? Because they can be satisfied with betting a small amount, at least they can gamble.
I don't agree. Addicted gambler can never be satisfied with small amount, they're called addicted for being out of control and no satisfaction. It's more disastrous since they can do everything (selling assets or doing things that are unimaginable) to feed their addiction.

Moreover, addicted gamblers are also greedy because they're also aiming to win huge. Thus, it's the same thing, but addiction for me is more disastrous.
38  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does addicted gamblers only lose money all the time on: May 28, 2024, 10:04:31 AM
We keep talking about gambling addiction and how bad it is to become addicted, does it mean that addicted gamblers lose money all the time? Do you means those guys doesn't win anything at all? Can they not be lucky to win jackpots?
No, it doesn't mean they lose all the time. But it's not the point, because regardless of they win or lose, an addicted gambler will still continue what they used to since it's already hard to stop. So it's not about winning or losing, because they're just like a normal gambler. The difference is, they're already out of control so they lose more for not having contentment and can play long hours to feed their addiction.
39  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Gambling A Hobby? on: May 28, 2024, 07:40:27 AM
It seems to me that one hour a day is a lot for this kind of activity like gambling. Any other activity that allows you to constantly develop skills is good. But gambling, which in fact does not bring new skills to the player because of a constant hobby, can become an addiction. I believe that such an effect will not occur if you devote not an hour a day to this, but several hours on weekends. This is much rarer and safer.
It can be treated as a hobby if you are entertained and making money is not really your desire. However, we know gambling can be addicting especially if a person is eager to win. Playing everyday is not safe if a gambler is already spending money beyond his set limit. I agree that it's better to find a hobby wherein you can gain skills or learn new things. Gambling on the other side would be fine as long as you just want to have fun and it doesn't affect you negatively.
40  Other / Off-topic / Re: How much of my salary should I use to gamble on: May 27, 2024, 09:44:13 AM
That's true going all in into gambling with one salary ain't advisable at all , to me that's is a sign of one not having self-control and also sign of being addicted to gambling. Because gambling is all about winning or Losing, and most time the chances of losing is way higher than winning, so there's high chances of losing all that salary once. So is way better to use some certain percentage of your salary than using all . And always use the kinda percentage you can afford to lose .

Are you serious about this? How can someone think of using all their salary for gambling? Gambling isn’t sure money. In fact, in gambling, the chances of losing are greater than the chances of winning. Hence, if you are planning to bet all of your salary on gambling at once, then I have not seen a more foolish person than you. Through your salary, you pay loan installments and bills. Hence, it’s ideal to not risk all the money for the sake of earning some extra money. Follow the golden 40:30:30 rule, which says 40% of your salary should be spent on daily or monthly needs, 30% for savings, and the rest 30% for investment. Here, you can use the remaining 30% to gamble if you want to make quick money in a shorter period of time.
It is stupid to use all the salary for gambling but in reality there are people who are insane doing this to feed their addiction. These people are out of control and an addicted gamblers already. Because if you're still playing in moderation, would you dare spend your salary in gambling and not prioritizing the important things? 5% would be enough for leisure if you're a type of gambler who are playing with a goal of having fun and not to make money.
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