v9 -i 8 280x ~225 h/s 1110, 1500 390 ~304 h/s 1130, 1500 290x ~286 h/s 1100, 1500 480 ~245 h/s 1380, 2200 fury ~330 h/s 1065, 550 time to sleep  R9 390 Driver? 15.12 or 16... ? Thenks. stock bios, driver 16.10.3 |
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running mining rigs makes the air in my mining room drier than the rest of the house, the water i spilled on the floor evaporated quickly, it is quicker to dry clothes in my mining room compared in drying them outside, and a portion of the room becomes cooler when clothes are being dried. I defrost stake in more or less 5 mins ...those observations for me makes me think that swamp cooling here is feasible..i may enjoy the cooler climate now but i know what summer will bring to my mining room i have no way of measuring humidity here but based from my observations above, a constant pump of water to the cooling pads or columns of towels(custom made  ) and a fan would make a difference here. i haven't researched more about humidity but i think humidity or water in the air helps GPUs to transfer more heat to the air just like how water in the radiator helps transfer heat from the car engine to the radiator.. Humidity level of the air as such has insignificant effect on heat transfer from a heatsink to air. Your mining room "gets drier" because air can hold more moisture as it gets warmer, so the "relative humidity" drops even if the actual amount of moisture in the air per CC stays the same. drying clothes acts as an impromptu evaporative cooler. What area are you in? i'm in south east asia. Theres another factor..the water tank, i'm thinking at least 155 liters or more, the water that goes into the mining room and goes down to the dirty kitchen serves as a conduit of heat to the tank (warm water goes back to the tank in loop)...the water will serve as a heat sink too. Maybe during hotter hours or days i can try to bypass the floater and let the cool tap water trickle, excess water will flow directly to the drain. |
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i believe those evap coolers won't be much effective if the whole unit absorbs the heat and becomes almost equal to the heat of the room...where would the heat go? How about if the water from the unit evaporated? How will you replenish supply automatically?
That's why i'm going to customize swamp cooling using water tank, floater (connected to tap water supply), pump, and over flow connected to drainage..
Doesn't significantly matter - the amount of heat input it takes to make water change phase from liquid to vapor is over 500 TIMES the amount of heat input it takes to raise the temp of the same amount of water 1 degree C. A few degrees difference in the temp of the water in the tank of an evaporative cooler doesn't matter enough to notice. Humidity of the air being cooled via an evaporative system matters a LOT though - they work a ton better in areas with dry air than areas with humid air. Kuwait loves them, Malaysia would find them pretty much worthless. running mining rigs makes the air in my mining room drier than the rest of the house, the water i spilled on the floor evaporated quickly, it is quicker to dry clothes in my mining room compared in drying them outside, and a portion of the room becomes cooler when clothes are being dried. I defrost stake in more or less 5 mins ...those observations for me makes me think that swamp cooling here is feasible..i may enjoy the cooler climate now but i know what summer will bring to my mining room i have no way of measuring humidity here but based from my observations above, a constant pump of water to the cooling pads or columns of towels(custom made ) and a fan would make a difference here. i haven't researched more about humidity but i think humidity or water in the air helps GPUs to transfer more heat to the air just like how water in the radiator helps transfer heat from the car engine to the radiator.. |
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I am trying to use this to blow out the hot air in my warehouse. I have tried many different positions but the temps seems unchanged I may doing this wrong way or wrong placement Anybody has seen this in action?  How is exactly your warehouse ? Has it open windows ? Do you have access to a source of fresh air ? Another possibility would be blowing that fresh air directly on the cards, even if I'm not sure that it will work. A solution, complicated, I know, would be to create a network of fans that would push the hot air into a funnel, connected to that machine. i'm imagining here.. The way it can work is if you have an attic like or a side of the building where you can throw the hot air...that place where you throw hot air should not find a way back and the wall is heat insulated for maximum performance...and then the fresh air comes from the other side, preferrably the cooler side, and just like what phil said the new/fresh air should be cool enough because if that air is just a little bit cooler you may get only a slight decrease in temp |
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v9 -i 8 280x ~225 h/s 1110, 1500 390 ~304 h/s 1130, 1500 290x ~286 h/s 1100, 1500 480 ~245 h/s 1380, 2200 fury ~330 h/s 1065, 550 time to sleep |
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Any news for the v9 release? It could be today? tomorrow? or?
claymore said "in 24 hrs", i will sleep very late and wake up very early LOL |
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what air comes in?
you may need a second unit on to pull air into the warehouse.
and if a recall it is hot where you are.
So if the air temp is 100f in the warehouse and the outside temp is 100f
temps will not drop a lot but the temps in the warehouse may not raise to say 105f
fan cooling helps but when it is really hot you don't drop a lot.
My solar array was at 95f when outside temps were 95f but no fans and I went to 100f
these temperature behavior by using fans is what i'm experiencing...fans can only do much, we have to find a way where we can direct the heat or make the heat transfer to. Planning to install swamp cooler in my mining room before summer begins. swamp cooler? OMG - whats that ? the concept is the same with the evaporative cooler fans that can be bought at the dept. store.. Swamp cooling is like utilizing water to cool your area/room/garage....you can google for more visuals and explanations Here is one. Make sure you look at the effectiveness in the Region that you live in the US. http://www.homedepot.com/p/PORTACOOL-10100-CFM-Variable-Speed-Portable-Evaporative-Cooler-for-2650-sq-ft-PAC2K36HPVS/202221389i believe those evap coolers won't be much effective if the whole unit absorbs the heat and becomes almost equal to the heat of the room...where would the heat go? How about if the water from the unit evaporated? How will you replenish supply automatically? That's why i'm going to customize swamp cooling using water tank, floater (connected to tap water supply), pump, and over flow connected to drainage.. |
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what air comes in?
you may need a second unit on to pull air into the warehouse.
and if a recall it is hot where you are.
So if the air temp is 100f in the warehouse and the outside temp is 100f
temps will not drop a lot but the temps in the warehouse may not raise to say 105f
fan cooling helps but when it is really hot you don't drop a lot.
My solar array was at 95f when outside temps were 95f but no fans and I went to 100f
these temperature behavior by using fans is what i'm experiencing...fans can only do much, we have to find a way where we can direct the heat or make the heat transfer to. Planning to install swamp cooler in my mining room before summer begins. swamp cooler? OMG - whats that ? the concept is the same with the evaporative cooler fans that can be bought at the dept. store.. Swamp cooling is like utilizing water to cool your area/room/garage....you can google for more visuals and explanations |
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what air comes in?
you may need a second unit on to pull air into the warehouse.
and if a recall it is hot where you are.
So if the air temp is 100f in the warehouse and the outside temp is 100f
temps will not drop a lot but the temps in the warehouse may not raise to say 105f
fan cooling helps but when it is really hot you don't drop a lot.
My solar array was at 95f when outside temps were 95f but no fans and I went to 100f
these temperature behavior by using fans is what i'm experiencing...fans can only do much, we have to find a way where we can direct the heat or make the heat transfer to. Planning to install swamp cooler in my mining room before summer begins. |
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People paid 30 - 40$ when litecoin is in hype mode, and litecoin supply back then was far more than zec right now.
We all know how zec is far better in development and technology compared to litecoin.
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You can add "miners developer" in the list.
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Correct me if i am wrong as I have no idea of diskless system.
Dont we have to have at least 64gb of RAM of we need to do this? Does the entire system store in the RAM? If so then 20gb for OS and another 16gb for Miner Ram and at least 8gb for System.
16gb ram is enough, some people can pull it off with lower than 16gb ram.. the OS (image) of the clients runs at the diskless server HDDs...that's why i recommended using SSD's they are faster and more than enough. I have same questions, what about the AMD drivers or already configured Claymore's miner ?
I'm using separated worker for every rig, what is the solution in that case ?
as far as i know images have can have like.. child images, only the changes are saved..like.. (i forgot the term .. i'm using "child") -original image ..10gb ---(child image)installed driver, different worker, installed other stuff ..1gb total space occupied 11gb ....allocating separate image for each client can be done but it is not recommended due to waste of storage space, but it might be useful in cases where different motherboards are used or other issues that are hardware-driver related. |
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@ mettalmag
i think you should start looking at diskless solutions....mining rigs booting from LAN.
there is a lot of advantages, specially for people with many mining rigs..
Can you tell me more about that? you manage all mining rigs' hard drives in a diskless server.. - you can snapshot a clean, freshly installed, freshly tweaked windows OS...and can return to that state in an instant (more like a backup) - switching from windows to linux vice versa is just a reboot away - you install a miner software and driver in a mining rig, every mining rig will have that mining software and driver. - you can set the images (mining rig OS inside diskless server) to read only mode....virus proof, no need for antivirus software. if infected or messed up, you just have to reboot the rig. - if your farm have so many hard drives, maybe the hard drive power consumption is equal or greater than the diskless server. - you can turn on and turn off remotely you just have to be sure that your diskless server is VERY stable...btw there are realtime failover diskless server too. maybe i missed some things but..that's just what i remembered right now. at the moment I'm researching the PXE and thinking about it, but first thought is the cost of server and re building network hardware, technically building and implementing this technology would't be a big issue (it's a matter of time, testing and etc), but so far the only problem we have in farm is power blackouts and random PC hangs. To solve this problem I was thinking buy a smart PDUs but the cost in this way is huge too, so the last thing I came up was SimpleRigResseter. you can simulate testing, troubleshooting the diskless server setup, with a couple or more client PC's using and using VMware or virtual box(they have networking features).. more like a simulated laboratory using real Operating systems. i'm just mining at home in a room i don't see why would power distribution would be expensive..i know this is small scale, but even if i multiply my electrical setup expenses (projected for a modest farm), it would not be that very expensive. i forgot the exact amount but i think a single rx 480 is more expensive than my electrical setup (considering that my wires are not very long), i haven't used the 20A breakers in that pic, why? i know the THHN AWG # 12 limits, only plugged 2 pcs 2500 watts rating surge protected extension wires per outlet.....and i'm the only person going inside the mining room...nobody is going inside the room and plug some stuff that will overload the THHN #12 (the surge protected 2500w rating extension wire trips if overloaded btw)  |
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@ mettalmag
i think you should start looking at diskless solutions....mining rigs booting from LAN.
there is a lot of advantages, specially for people with many mining rigs..
Can you tell me more about that? you manage all mining rigs' hard drives in a diskless server.. - you can snapshot a clean, freshly installed, freshly tweaked windows OS...and can return to that state in an instant (more like a backup) - switching from windows to linux vice versa is just a reboot away - you install a miner software and driver in a mining rig, every mining rig will have that mining software and driver. - you can set the images (mining rig OS inside diskless server) to read only mode....virus proof, no need for antivirus software. if infected or messed up, you just have to reboot the rig. - if your farm have so many hard drives, maybe the hard drive power consumption is equal or greater than the diskless server. - you can turn on and turn off remotely you just have to be sure that your diskless server is VERY stable...btw there are realtime failover diskless server option too. maybe i missed some things but..that's just what i remembered right now. EDIT: instead of using RAID in diskless servers for speed, you should use SSD because its faster than hdds in RAID. |
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@ mettalmag
i think you should start looking at diskless solutions....mining rigs booting from LAN.
there is a lot of advantages, specially for people with many mining rigs..
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this might sound funny, but if gpu manufacturers are really serious about marketing to gpu miners they should contact our miners developers here like claymore, wolf etc. and send them engineering samples for mining benchmarks before they release their cards to the public
Might be something to email amd and nvidia about NVidia would not care, their sales to "miners" is trivial at best. AMD probably doesn't consider it worthwhile, sales to miners would be a very small part of their overall sales even when they DO exist (last year their miner card sales would have been pretty close to ZERO as there were no GPU mineable coins that were noticeably profitable). Keep in mind we're talking about companies that sell MILLIONS of cards a year (probably TENS of millions some years) - I seriously doubt there has been any year that miners bought even 100K cards in a year since Scrypt went ASIC, and I have some serious doubts about the years before THAT. Games that generate net profit with more or less net income of $100 million are worthy of gpu game benchmarks for the public..gpu mineable altcoins that are still below $ 100 million market cap should also be benchmarked for the public to see... The only problem is when asics are developed, those small asic companies will be bragging that they are faster than amd and nvidia, and they get free/dominating advertising over amd and nvidia...besides games are very different compared to crypto algos, games tends to be the standard for gpu performance...mining algos however favors one over the other depending on the algo. |
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Funny, so I've installed windows on one rig, Win 10 Pro, especialy for Claymore 8 and my 480's and like 10 years go, Win freezes completely on a random basis  Just one of the many reasons serious miners prefer LINUX. my windows 7 miners are very stable, i installed it in 2013 and cloned to multiple cheap 80gb sata hdd's for multiple mining rigs..still mining to this day. I agree. All my miners and friends' miners are on Windows 7/8 or 10, with ZERO issues or instability. IF properly setup, windows can be just as (if not) more stable than linux. It is much easier to setup than linux with better driver support and do nto need to use command prompts for any settings and changes. The ONLY thing it has going for it are less resources use and cheaper (unless you get Windows bootleg off the net). i believe resources are not an issue anymore, these are socket 775 rigs with quadcore cpu's, the motherboards and cpu's can be traced back to around ~year 2007 models. ... and it is only in 2016 when i upgraded them from 2gb ram to 4gb ram. ....and claymore always supported windows miners  |
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Funny, so I've installed windows on one rig, Win 10 Pro, especialy for Claymore 8 and my 480's and like 10 years go, Win freezes completely on a random basis Just one of the many reasons serious miners prefer LINUX. my windows 7 miners are very stable, i installed it in 2013 and cloned to multiple cheap 80gb sata hdd's for multiple mining rigs..still mining to this day. |
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---------------RX 490 will be Announced and Launched on December 12th----------------
Inside info? I suspect it may come early. as rx 470 prices are really dropping. Maybe we see a zec price boost on the 10-11th? a price jump in the coin on 10-11 is an easy commercial for the 490 this might sound funny, but if gpu manufacturers are really serious about marketing to gpu miners they should contact our miners developers here like claymore, wolf etc. and send them engineering samples for mining benchmarks before they release their cards to the public |
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sounds like
ErnusFS = AnusFS
FS= Fuck Sake.
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