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2221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 10, 2013, 03:06:59 AM
no progress... nmap says need to specify a host...i tried both desktop ip's, but that doesnt seem to give me anything.
there was a 0.0.0.0 ip address in wireshark...?  I tried everry ip address I found...the miner is running, the ethernet lights are pinging away..... huh...  I'm ready to get an ulcer


cant help you if you wont answer my pm.


Nmap worked for me when I specified the gateway, properly the lowest address in the subnet, e.g. 192.168.1.1.  So, I don't have the graphic in the reply box but wouldn't you use:

nmap -sP 192.168.43.1/24

2222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 10, 2013, 03:02:41 AM
no progress... nmap says need to specify a host...i tried both desktop ip's, but that doesnt seem to give me anything.
there was a 0.0.0.0 ip address in wireshark...?  I tried everry ip address I found...the miner is running, the ethernet lights are pinging away..... huh...  I'm ready to get an ulcer


Try ipconfig /all and you'll probably see the .1 is  your gateway, the .51 is assigned to the machine you're using.  .255 should be the broadcast address of the subnet.  As I understand bridging, if done properly, the computers after the bridge should have addresses in the same subnet as the .1, .51 and .555.  So, the bridge isn't setup correctly I think.
2223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 10, 2013, 01:27:36 AM
HELP.. I have no idea how to use wireshark...  and cant find the ip address of the miner...
is there an easy way?


Trying arp -a from a Windows cmd box give me three addresses on my network while on a linux machine the same command comes up with 7 addresses.  The three from the XP cmd box are two Raspberry Pi and the router gateway.  A Blade address as well as three machines running linux and samba aren't reported by Windows.  So, the question is, will a Jupiter respond to arp -a from Windows as the Raspberry Pi do or as the Blade does?
arp -a did NOT show mine, via windows.

Phoenix... any progress?

I used NMAP.   

  nmap -sP 163.193.1.1/24

then grabbed the TI record.

  Nmap scan report for (163.193.194.169)
  Host is up (0.0060s latency).
  MAC Address: xx:xx:xx:Xx:Xx:Xx (Texas Instruments)

sucked... network had 500+ machines on it but was able to find it..

Nmap worked!  Showed the Blade as well.  It wasn't installed by default on my linux machines but worked immediately after installation.  I tried installing it on a RPi but failed as sources needed updating.  Ran update and am installing nmap now.  Probably should have gone with download source package so as to preempt all these additional packages that are time consuming and with limited space on the SD card.....

Yep, works just as well on RPi.  Interestingly both a debian machine and an RPi, both using nmap -sP 192.168.1.001. showed an unknown address in the DHCP range but not assigned by the DHCP server.  Google shows it has something to do with Windows and that the address is likely assigned to a device in the Windows machine itself.  (Hon Hai Precision Ind.Co.) manufactures the interface and Foxconn manufactured the mb.
2224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 10, 2013, 01:17:38 AM
HELP.. I have no idea how to use wireshark...  and cant find the ip address of the miner...
is there an easy way?


Trying arp -a from a Windows cmd box give me three addresses on my network while on a linux machine the same command comes up with 7 addresses.  The three from the XP cmd box are two Raspberry Pi and the router gateway.  A Blade address as well as three machines running linux and samba aren't reported by Windows.  So, the question is, will a Jupiter respond to arp -a from Windows as the Raspberry Pi do or as the Blade does?
arp -a did NOT show mine, via windows.

Phoenix... any progress?

I used NMAP.   

  nmap -sP 163.193.1.1/24

then grabbed the TI record.

  Nmap scan report for (163.193.194.169)
  Host is up (0.0060s latency).
  MAC Address: xx:xx:xx:Xx:Xx:Xx (Texas Instruments)

sucked... network had 500+ machines on it but was able to find it..

Nmap worked!  Showed the Blade as well.  It wasn't installed by default on my linux machines but worked immediately after installation.  I tried installing it on a RPi but failed as sources needed updating.  Ran update and am installing nmap now.  Probably should have gone with download source package so as to preempt all these additional packages that are time consuming and with limited space on the SD card.....
2225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 10, 2013, 12:44:35 AM
HELP.. I have no idea how to use wireshark...  and cant find the ip address of the miner...
is there an easy way?


Trying arp -a from a Windows cmd box gives me three addresses on my network while on a linux machine the same command comes up with 7 addresses.  The three from the XP cmd box are two Raspberry Pi and the router gateway.  A Blade address as well as three machines running linux and samba aren't reported by Windows arp -a.  So, the question is, will a Jupiter respond to a Windows arp -a as the the pair of Raspberry Pi (one running minepeon and the other stratum-mining-proxy) do or as the Blade does?  The Blade isn't showing up arp -a on a Debian linux nor with arp -a in an XP cmd box.

(added a bit)
2226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 10, 2013, 12:39:39 AM
omg, I'm dyin here....  Ive tried every ip address wireshark displays...its like reading greek or something...  I'm clueless...
the texas instruments ip doesnt work either
its running, nothing on the pool, and cant access the ip address... cause I cant find it



you cant enter your router???
its a routerless system...  ethernet switch bridged to wifi

If I understand bridging correctly you should be on the same network as the wifi and the wifi router will be able to tell you what dynamic IP addresses have been assigned.  Plug those into a browser address field one at a time.
2227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 10, 2013, 12:33:14 AM
They were probably safeguards/margins in case some terminals did not work. In any case, no one promised 6 ports. I expect to be able to upgrade Saturn to Jupiter, but not further.
AHEM! This photo is what they describe as their controller board and you see 1 2 3 4 5 6
 https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-39
Yes, you see them on a picture describing the slogan. It does not say anywhere that all 6 will be in use.

I am more worried about those capacitors. Everything else seems like nitpicking.
So you don't care if they sell 7000 Jupiters in China in the next month or two? Maybe in China they have another bitcoin, unrelated to the one you mine?

KNC promised to take care of the customers who gave them a free loan of millions to start their business. This ^ does not do that.

I will admit I was pretty annoyed when I seen them open a Chinese version of the website.  I take it the network protection statement means nothing now?

On the flipside, how many Chinese can actually afford these miners?

Fucking millions. They aren't all riding bikes in coolie hats these days. In my local uni there are 5 to 10 thousand chinese students and coming to live here to study for 4 years with no finance isn't cheap. They are a long way from poor.

China will be massive. Bitcoins are a lot more useful for them than for us. Remember the gold mining farms they used to run?

Check the ratio of mercs bought , China almost equal to the US and it's same for all luxury car makers. They have loads of cash to spend http://www.autoblog.com/2013/10/05/mercedes-september-sales-best-in-87-years/

Not all that many years ago a photo of a Bejing main street showed a couple or three vehicles, little more.
2228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 10, 2013, 12:31:29 AM
HELP.. I have no idea how to use wireshark...  and cant find the ip address of the miner...
is there an easy way?


Trying arp -a from a Windows cmd box give me three addresses on my network while on a linux machine the same command comes up with 7 addresses.  The three from the XP cmd box are two Raspberry Pi and the router gateway.  A Blade address as well as three machines running linux and samba aren't reported by Windows arp -a.  So, the question is, will a Jupiter respond to a Windows arp -a from as the the pair of Raspberry Pi (one running minepeon and the other stratum-mining-proxy) do or as the Blade does?  The Blade isn't showing up arp -a on a Debian linux nor with arp -a in an XP cmd box.
2229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 09, 2013, 10:40:34 PM
are most of the problems on Jupiters it seems?, if so, and caps are the problem, sounds like a controller board and/or power issue to me, but I'm not an engineer...lol

A ground loop problem is unlikely but the power supply has internal grounds then there are multiple connections to the miner, and all those miner power connection grounds are likely common, so a ground loop allowing an oscillation isn't impossible.
2230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 09, 2013, 10:05:09 PM
Yes there are freshly generated coins entering the wallet the refunds came from. That's not a covert mining farm minting coins to refund. That's your hosted devices up, and running. Hosting is live. The issue is configuring the API to your accounts and that is being sorted now. So those minted coins, approx. 175 were put towards the coins creditied. However the total credited will now equal 380 BTC today, so that's 205BTC paid from KnC themselves in addition to what's been generated. There a few additional coins to credit today as there was a mix-up with some guys in possession of multiple miners that were overlooked by mistake and that's being rectified. Hopefully you will be able to access your accounts very soon, but the pool works. The fact is each board has an individual owner and that owner has to be able to configure certain aspects of each board, choice of pool etc. You are therefore not given a proportional 'virtual' share of what's hosted, but actual physical and configurable boards located in your own physical space in the hosting center; i.e. your own board(s), and thus these need to be individually assigned, and that is considerably more laborious than originally expected.

Why don't they configure the miners to point to the pool/addresses configured in the account while we wait for the software/routing to be resolved?  They had to configure them somewhere, it just doesn't make sense given the information provided that they would point them all to their own pool account when it would have been just as easy to use our configuration and avoid the whole refund issue entirely.

I think what he was saying is that pool users configure their own mining scheme and using the pool, the pool gets a percentage and that percentage to the pool is what is being used for the delay refunds.  I suppose they would like to configure the miners for the users the best way possible as that would mean a larger amount as that fixed percentage - success of those in the pool is good for them.  But, given the type of people we miners are, we'd probably complain if we couldn't make our own choices even if not optimal.
2231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 09, 2013, 03:15:59 AM
Just received my third Jupiter (Australia).

to give some indication on order #/payment date

Order #: 10XX - Payment Date: 6/5/13 - Ship Date: Oct 3rd - Received Date: Oct 8th
Order #: 10XX - Payment Date: 6/5/13 - Ship Date: Oct 3rd - Received Date: Oct 8th
Order #: 14XX - Payment Date: 6/10/13 - Ship Date: Oct 4th - Received Date: Oct 9th

I was in 1-500 group for a very low order # in that initial range prior to actual orders.

Edit: Also in regards to condition after about 8 different stops on their journey, total 'damage' 1 fan fallen off  Grin

So, since you were in the 1-500 group, then KnC adjusted for refunds and non-payments which put your orders in the greater than 1000 range, one might assume they added 1000 to the order numbers, and now no order number is less than 1000?  

If they did ship 1400 orders in 7 days, they match BFL's predicted output rate of 200(units)/day.
2232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 09, 2013, 01:28:13 AM
Just received my third Jupiter (Australia).

to give some indication on order #/payment date

Order #: 10XX - Payment Date: 6/5/13 - Ship Date: Oct 3rd - Received Date: Oct 8th
Order #: 10XX - Payment Date: 6/5/13 - Ship Date: Oct 3rd - Received Date: Oct 8th
Order #: 14XX - Payment Date: 6/10/13 - Ship Date: Oct 4th - Received Date: Oct 9th

I was in 1-500 group for a very low order # in that initial range prior to actual orders.

Edit: Also in regards to condition after about 8 different stops on their journey, total 'damage' 1 fan fallen off  Grin

So, initial order numbers in the 1-500 group, after realignment for orders that were canceled or went unpaid, fell into 1000-1500 range?  How is that?
2233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 09, 2013, 01:23:06 AM
Just received my third Jupiter (Australia).

to give some indication on order #/payment date

Order #: 10XX - Payment Date: 6/5/13 - Ship Date: Oct 3rd - Received Date: Oct 8th
Order #: 10XX - Payment Date: 6/5/13 - Ship Date: Oct 3rd - Received Date: Oct 8th
Order #: 14XX - Payment Date: 6/10/13 - Ship Date: Oct 4th - Received Date: Oct 9th

I was in 1-500 group for a very low order # in that initial range prior to actual orders.

Edit: Also in regards to condition after about 8 different stops on their journey, total 'damage' 1 fan fallen off  Grin

I feel the 14xx shipment date is good news!  July orders start in the 3000 range I think.  Production rates have likely stabilized at a higher rate this week than last so we can probably expect more than an additional 1500 orders filled by this time next week, possibly more since Merc's will be faster to build.
2234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 08, 2013, 08:35:42 PM
So I was wondering...    I have 3 saturns coming...   so how would I use putty to view all 3 sats at the same time?  can I make them all work on one cgminer window, or 3 windows?
From windows putty to cgminer in minepeon reduces in size and still has a readable screen but putty to a raspberry pi running stratum-mining-proxy wraps the lines in a way that's not very readable tho one could keep that screen full width and reduce the height.
2235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 08, 2013, 06:36:23 PM
Yeah, router issues had me stumped for a bit here too. As it turns out, Manually bridging connections thru the
OS on the host computer's ethernet device was necessary to get the ethernet to web-connect on my home-network... The hardware way sucked in comparison. (kept disconnecting)
(not saying that's their problem tho)

So, worthwhile getting a beaglebone with which to practice?  Is the linux networking less like debian and more like something else, say Suse?  We know Raspberry Pi is Debian Wheezy.  What's this linux?
2236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 08, 2013, 05:59:17 PM
Interesting if you're hosting at home - ok I should perhaps narrow it down further to hosting at home in the UK - and were considering power factor correction capacitors to knock down the electricity costs:

"In a domestic single phase power supply, unlike commerce and industry, you do not pay reactive power charges and you do not have a kVA limit so the only one who would benefit from fitting Power Factor Correction would be the supply company since they would need to supply less "kVA" for a given killowatt consumption.
 
kW = kVA x pf.
 
Killowatts are killowatts and the simplest way to save them is to turn things off.
If your machinery is using motors, you may find reducing the voltage to these will save energy especially if they are not fully loaded.
 
I hope this helps.
 
Regards"

Really?  Running air conditioning or the refrigerator at 120VAC is more energy efficient than running at 126VAC?  I suspect not.

Well, I'm only quoting the electricity guy's message to me. England moved from 240v to 230v for residential supplies a few years ago and everything still works just as well on 230 as it did on 240 but just used less electricity doing it. I'm guessing he's alluding to this. Most people here still think it's 240 because that's what they grew up with and they haven't noticed anything different plus the devices invariably say 220-240v on them

Ah, the British Isles.  Lots of rain, fog, clouds, and at that time likely, mostly incandescent bulbs.  Resistive loads will use less power with lower voltage but motors get more efficient with higher voltages.  You would have been turning on lamps earlier than in brighter climes.  A few short years ago what was then the largest natural gas electric generating facility in the world came online not far from here.  It provides power for a lot of the southeast, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tenn., Alabama.  Before it went online I could measure voltage at the wall to be between 126 & 128VAC.  Surprised me as it was lower on Long Island where I'm from.  Lots of rural homes out here, long lines.  The the new electric facility had a different policy.  Voltage at the wall went bam smack on 120VAC, maybe up to 122 VAC at times.  Overall there had been a trickle up effect, the northern states getting some free power.  That stopped.  They hustled adjusting voltages mid-summer.  Suddenly power lines were falling all over the northeast, particularly Pennsylvania.  Up north there they must have seen it was going to be reflected in profits and had no reasonable way to explain it.  They must have started lowering their own voltages relative to one another.  Lines got hot, stretched, broke and fell.  Things that use to work well started drawing more current.  Global warming, lots more AC use in the south, think they'd lower their voltages if the AC were going to be costing the customers less?  Don't know for sure, this is just my theory.

Perhaps the UK power utility saw what a large fraction of electric usage they had of incandescent lamps and with the low power bulbs coming on the market decided to fudge profits by making electric motors less efficient.
2237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 08, 2013, 05:10:18 PM
Interesting if you're hosting at home - ok I should perhaps narrow it down further to hosting at home in the UK - and were considering power factor correction capacitors to knock down the electricity costs:

"In a domestic single phase power supply, unlike commerce and industry, you do not pay reactive power charges and you do not have a kVA limit so the only one who would benefit from fitting Power Factor Correction would be the supply company since they would need to supply less "kVA" for a given killowatt consumption.
 
kW = kVA x pf.
 
Killowatts are killowatts and the simplest way to save them is to turn things off.
If your machinery is using motors, you may find reducing the voltage to these will save energy especially if they are not fully loaded.
 
I hope this helps.
 
Regards"

Really?  Running air conditioning or the refrigerator at 120VAC is more energy efficient than running at 126VAC?  I suspect not.
2238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 08, 2013, 05:06:42 PM

And both the USB and 5 volt power ports have been removed from the beagleboard?
2239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 08, 2013, 05:05:19 PM
How is it that I paid on June 4, and people who paid on june 8, are already receiving their orders?!?

Because you didn't wash your hand when you last used the toilet.

I never wash my hands after using the toilet so that theory is out the window.

And there's the best reason to use the dry hands paper towels for opening the men's room exit door.
2240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 08, 2013, 05:01:33 PM
any new order # ready for UPS delivery (think we shall reach until #3000 today) ?
I've a July Merc order #31xx and wonder if that number is fixed or has some relationship that changed the first 500 Jupiter/Saturn pre-order sequence effected it as well.
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