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2501  Economy / Lending / Re: Investment Oppurtunity - Read Carefully, Please. on: December 17, 2017, 06:57:30 AM
Isn't sweeet's debt pegged in USD?

Hi Sweet
In response to your message, I would like my layout in BTC as USD is not my native currency. No rush, but do you have any idea of when I will be receiving my funds back? I'm on edge a little haha.
Thanks for keeping us updated.
Well its not like I'd be repaying you in USD just in BTC but the value of the Bitcoin is calculated from the USD value of bitcoin from the time of your transaction. So I would be repaying you in BTC but you would receive the same amount of USD value instead of BTC value. As of time of repayment I have no clue I am first repaying drunkenone then Taras then you.

How can you state the repayment amount from sweeet in terms of BTC....

I paid Sweeet 0.06, which is due to be returned to me at some unknown point.

Why don't I just tell Sweet I want my 0.06 now?
Because that's what everyone wants, and what everyone can't get at the moment.

What will I earn?
To get the repayment of my 0.06 stake directly from Sweeet, I ask to be paid 0.053. This is negotiable

If BTC could double tomorrow and then only be repaid half of the .6 BTC pegged to USD, or crash X4 tomorow and be repaid 4X in btc??

And..
If you agree to lock your BTC to the USD value at the time it was sent which is: $5341

Is that .06 BTC pegged at $5341 or is that $19,500 BTC?

Hmm..

If that .06 BTC is pegged at $5300 and now we are at $19,500 that's like ... 0.0163 BTC now for full repayment..

This MUST not be the case if you are stating a projected profit of $180 from buying this debt note at 0.05BTC
2502  Economy / Reputation / Re: ATRIZ=LAUDA THE BIGGEST SCAM IN THE WORLD!!!! MORE SCAM THAN QUICKSELLER!!!!!!!! on: December 17, 2017, 03:56:22 AM
Found OP's alt..

HAVE A LOOK AT MANY PROOFS BELOW!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=396699
2503  Economy / Collectibles / Re: 2013 CASASCIUS FUNDED WITH ALL HARDFORKS PRESENT AND FUTURE on: December 16, 2017, 07:47:59 PM
Hmmm...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-casascius-bitcoin-loaded-funded-10-BTC-with-all-dividend-splits-fine-9999/182960739815

my price for coin is  ONE BITCOIN SENT IN BTC or 50 litecoins TO ADDRESS I PROVIDE AT THE END OF AUCTION ,
...
***HIGHEST BIDDER THAT WINS MUST HAVE ONE BITCOIN READY TO SEND TO MY ADDRESS UPON COMPLETION OF AUCTION I WILL GIVE ADDRESS RIGHT AWAY AND ONCE CONFIRMED PAYMENT I WILL SHIP OVERNIGHT TO ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD FULLY INSURED!
...
REGARDLESS OF ENDING PRICE THE AUCTION IS FOR ONE BITCOIN SENT TO MY ACCOUNT.
..
Time left: Time left:3d 07h Tuesday, 10:05PM
Current bid:US $4,050.00
[ 32 bids ]

_______________________________________________________________________________ __

So what exactly is your plan here? Obviously not to sell the same coin twice.. But are you going to give it to the winner of this auction or the winner of the other??
2504  Economy / Collectibles / Re: 2013 CASASCIUS FUNDED WITH ALL HARDFORKS PRESENT AND FUTURE on: December 16, 2017, 07:17:52 PM
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2505  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Convert Casascius 2012 to Fiat ? on: December 16, 2017, 07:15:15 PM
I don't think the builders I am hoping to get to do my roof take BTC.

Who knows, they might..
Ask em Smiley
2506  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: POLL: How can you trade cryptocurrency without getting "hacked" by an exchange? on: December 16, 2017, 04:15:34 AM
Hmm...

What if you're aware that the amount that you would trade on an exchange would be enough to immediately trigger an exit scam aka "hack" of the exchange,

Well if I were aware that I was trading such an amount that would be irresistible to the exchange operators not to steal it then I damn sure wouldn't be sending that amount to an exchange..
But what is this amount and how do you determine what amount would be irresistible? I think for most exchanges that aren't extremely illiquid this would have to be an extremely large amount to be significant in comparison to their current total deposits..
I think having any amount of coins sitting on any exchange or web wallet where a 3rd party has control of your keys is a risk and I suppose te greater the amount the more temptation any of them would have to steal it from you..

no warning on "zero-day" except the maxim that once you send your cryptocoins to a private key not under your exclusive control, they're no longer yours?

It could definitely happen and does.. Weather it be that you happened to be unlucky enough for it to occur while your coin was there (depending on your time level of exposure, sitting vs in and out), or that if your transaction itself was so large that it triggers such a heist may very well increase your risk..
All trading is a risk and relinquishing control of your keys is another part of that risk..  Once you send your crypto to a 3rd party then in all actuality you don't have that crypto anymore, all you have is a tally in some centralized ledger that says your account is credited X.XXX coin and that they are known for giving you your coins back at your request of a withdrawal.. But they don't have to send them back, they have the keys, you put your coin in their hands because you trusted them enough to take that risk..

P.S. No trading variable tokens that incur losses from slippage.

I'm not sure what you mean by this but I'm guessing to exclude decentralized exchanges though pretty much every crypto is a "variable tokens that incur losses from slippage" in that their prices vary and the price will slip on you if you put in a big enough order.. BTC price will slip if you market buy a few million worth and so would pretty much anything commonly traded if your order is big enough..
How big of an order would it take to make US government bonds slip or perhaps the gold market? I don't know..

Pretty much if you want to trade crypto on any exchange you are sacrificing that risk of handing your control of your coin over in exchange for ease, speed, and organization that an exchange delivers.. It's a lot easier, faster, and more organized to trade on an exchange rather than try to find tat 1 trading partner in a million that wants to trade you what you want for what you have at a rate that is agreeable to both of you..

For example, this is why I liked to trade huobi with leverage so I could risk 1/5th of my crypto on deposit and then trade with 5X that amount as if I had deposited that much in the first place.. A good amount less risk of losing your coin to that exchange but you incur higher trading fees because of it..

You could trade here.. Decentralised-Liquidity Exchange -- 'D-L-Ex' https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1579087.0
But then you would still have to trust an escrow or trust your trading partner, or your trading partner would have to trust you, and any of those could also run with your coin or you run with theirs..

It's pretty hard for me to come up with any situation where you could trade without any risk of being robbed other than a decentralized exchange like counterparty, but, if you havn't tried the counterparty DEX, it take a bitcoin block to confirm any trade you post and you have to pay a bitcoin fee to get every one of your trades to post, so it's very slow and very expensive..

Every step of the trading process has to be considered against your personally acceptable level of how much risk you are willing to take in order to possible have what gain as a result of success.. Just the trade itself has risk before you even get to what if the market moves against you..

It's all part of the gamble, choose your game wisely..
2507  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: $BTC can break 18000 USD within this year? on: December 16, 2017, 02:43:30 AM
It broke $18k on finex...
2508  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Repeal of Net neutrality - effects on miners on: December 16, 2017, 02:41:32 AM
If nothing changes, then why are the proponents of the repeal so happy? If nothing changes, then why did they want to get rid of net neutrality?
Here's what it comes down to: Federal regulation vs free enterprise.  The internet was already neutral before Obama decided to make it a regulated utility like a railroad.  The proponents of the repeal are happy because it's back to free enterprise, which is a good thing.  And the internet is staying neutral anyway.

The (loud) supporters of Obama's regulations probably just hate Trump so much that everything he does is wrong. Period.  We live in a highly polarized political climate right now.

Repealing net neutrality is about keeping government the hell out of the internet and the free market..
The less government in anything the better almost always..

Your government is bad, spains government is bad, canada's government is bad, my USA government is bad.
The greatest thing the government can do is less..
I want my government to do less of everything when it comes to my freedom and the free market..
I don't much mind if they build more military and do more to protect my country from turning into the 3rd world though..


Google, youtube, facebook, the big data collectors and users, those spying on you, are the huge proponents of "net neutrality" so they can get their fingers in through the gov and screw you even more than they are already..

You want that?
2509  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: My journey to beat the market and protect the downside. Algorithmic Trading. on: December 16, 2017, 02:20:38 AM
I wonder how silly professional traders feel to know that all these stupid uneducated crypto traders are kicking their butts?

You can't beat the market long term? lol
You can't win every trade every time (unless you take very little risk for very little gain) but you sure can win more than you lose in the longterm therefore beating the market..
You can make money in a market on the way down without shorts too, catch the dead cat bounces..

I think the fact that many crypto traders trade emotionally is what makes the market and what makes it predictable to me..
You can see the fear, greed, FOMO, etc building and then take on momentum which feeds on itself until it fizzles out.. Learning to spot this momentum in it's earlier stages lets you jump on and ride the wave..

It's easy to look back on a chart and say "See this line did this and then the market did this blah blah blah", but right NOW the line isn't made yet..
Their are all sorts of trading patterns, sure sometimes they work, but then sometimes you get a whale setting up a pattern and then crushing it the other direction to trap as many people as they can..

Crypto, especially the smaller markets, huge RANDOM changes happen in the blink of an eye.. You even get fat finger trades..
2510  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am underage and having extreme difficulty buying Bitcoin. Help a kid out! on: December 16, 2017, 12:05:44 AM
A cash deal would work but is selling BTC to a kid legal?
Kid would kinda risk getting jacked..
2511  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: POLL: How can you trade cryptocurrency without getting "hacked" by an exchange? on: December 15, 2017, 11:40:29 PM
I voted "fuck all webs of trust" Because you can trade on the counterparty DEX distributed exchange and you can't get hacked.. Well, if you get hacked it's your own fault for mishandling your seed/keys..

But, you can trade all the exchanges and not get hacked if you don't leave coin sit there long and stay aware for the most part.. It's a little about luck and a lot about your level of exposure to the 3rd party..

I have traded like every altcoin exchange and the only time I lost anything to anything other than a bad trade was a little bit of dust from arbing cryptsy right to the end.. I made way more arbing than I lost X100..

I probably have had some dust go down on now defunct exchanges but it wasn't worth my time to recover..


Getting hacked by an exchange is not really something to be that terrified about unless you use the exchange as your wallet..
If you just get in and get out with your business and stay aware of the current news about exchanges, the talk, you don't have too much to worry about..
2512  Economy / Collectibles / Re: CAS 2013 Silver 0.5 btc on: December 15, 2017, 05:15:43 AM

Sure. aI'll take one at .61BTC

So would I but I doubt that it will happen..
2513  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTS Bitcoin Cash on: December 15, 2017, 05:08:21 AM
I don't care if your account is hacked as long as you send first and do it for about .0233BTC
2514  Economy / Services / Re: ✖ ★ ◆ ◆ ◆ ACCELERATE BTC UNCONFIRMED TRANSACTION SERVICE ◆ ◆ ◆ ★ ✖ on: December 15, 2017, 04:12:21 AM

Tx ID: 7f998a582ac6d1b60568b270ccac7bae66678047738cb40e4a7558e9b5c53a94

Blockchain Link:
 https://blockchain.info/tx/7f998a582ac6d1b60568b270ccac7bae66678047738cb40e4a7558e9b5c53a94
2515  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold analyst throwing shade on bitcoin... does he have a point? on: December 15, 2017, 12:21:43 AM
The gold guys are jealous that their chart doesn't look like ours..
They have been preaching forever that the gold chart will do exactly this (against fiat)..
Now we are preaching that Bitcoin is the new gold? Heh, I bet they don't like that..
Imagine you have been buying 10% of your income in gold for the last 10 years, and then all of a sudden it looks like your gold might go obsolete against the "new" gold..
I bet you wouldn't be a happy camper.. If they accept BTC as the new gold they will dump gold for BTC..
If they don't accept that BTC is the new gold they will fight, likely attempting to tear BTC down rather than pump gold to catch up..
I read an article something about gold is going down as btc goes up.. That it shows gold money dumping into Bitcoin..
 

They are salty..
2516  Other / Meta / Re: Please Ban all ICO user that spamming via PM to promote their project on: December 14, 2017, 12:04:12 AM
Quote
Hope this message finds you well and on behalf of the GunBot team,
Happy trading!
-GrumpyKitty (Use referral code: “ GrumpyKitty ” AND GET 10% OFF!)


Best regards,
HeadBroadWay

That is the last part of the same message of @erikalui received from Gunbot PM.
This is the user: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=731277
That is very strange. I don't know who that user is, and they don't get any benefit from promoting GunBot using my code unless of course they are trying to scam to begin with.

Strange indeed..
Just about anyone could grab up an account and start dropping your ref links and/or addresses to set you up for who knows what.. Make it look like your alt and do whatever..  
The coinspiracy could run deep..




Oh yeah and I get these messages once every so often also..
I feel like I don't want to tag them if it's a legit ICO but I don't much give a fork about ICOs so I don't bother to read on them, much less beyond the first couple of sentences of the PM in question..
I think I tried replying to a couple of them to entertain myself but they never messaged me back..
2517  Economy / Reputation / Re: Free Bitcoin Accelerator Spam on: December 13, 2017, 01:50:36 AM
If they are trying to farm trust then yeah that is bad... But..

1. A lot of BTC users don't know much if anything bout how a mempool works, how the fee market really works, what a TX accelerator actually does.. etc..
2. If you can watch the blockchain and pounce on the via accelerator as soon as VIA finds a block then you can get in in maybe the first 1 minute.. The accelerator that actually works, VIA, is hard to get into and takes a lot of time watching to use it at the right moment.. So it's not work free by any means..

3. What's wrong with 1 post accounts using accelerators? You think they might be throwaways used just for that purpose as to not link a TX to a user account? To be anon.. Isn't this pretty much the reason BTCT allows multiple accounts?

If they are abusing it for trust then sure shut em down but if they are simply providing a service in the exchange for tips then why?
If they get tips then they are obviously providing value and if not they will give up..
2518  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: 0.80 btc for sale at 10% on: December 13, 2017, 12:35:35 AM
So 0.8 BTC for $1350? Let me guess: you want the $1350 through Western Union before you send the Bitcoins.


I have for sale in localbitcoin 0.8 btc for 10% I accept only western union or money gram or any service of sending money between countries i do not need your id or anything I only give you link and name and country and you send money in 20min you have your bitcoins
Quote and archive for reference.
it's preev price+10% no one will sell 0.8 for 10% as you understand and I work with escrow in localbitcoin so no one send first here before you post read carefully the post next time

Possibly, you might be able to make them easier to read..
2519  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Hello, I'm Juliet. I'm a proprietary crypto trading algorithm. on: December 13, 2017, 12:24:16 AM
After 10 weeks of live trading on my own (with real money they gave me), I'm up +182%.

If you have been trading crypto for the last 10 months and are up 182% then you should immediately stop trading because you suck..
What shitcoins did you get stuck bagholding?
2520  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: do you care about dollar or bitcoin gains with alt trading? on: December 12, 2017, 04:49:53 PM
Altcoin trading is for bitcoin bear markets..
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