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2701  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: My plan to get some free btc (sorta) on: February 28, 2012, 02:05:52 AM
Freerolls on Seals too!
2702  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price or difficulty ? on: February 26, 2012, 09:51:11 PM
Has anyone figured out how much trans fees will make up when the reward drops to 25? 1-4 btc would be my guess i suppose. Looks bad for miners cause i do not see the btc price much above what it is now. I need to check in on this to determine if i should sell my stuff.

I just looked at btcguild found blocks and it is pretty darn low. .05 if lucky per block.

You are missing a big part of the decision equation. What will other miners do, what will the difficulty be? If the btc/usd stays the same and 60% of hashing power drops out you'll make more money.

The question you should always ask yourself is "Am I going to be more or less efficient than the marginal miner?"

If you pay a reasonable price for electricity and value the time it takes you to manage your operation you should probably stop at some point unless you want bitcoins and have trouble buying them.
2703  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Paypal is becoming the 'Moral Police' for the Internet on: February 26, 2012, 09:45:18 PM
“You might wonder if Smashwords should simply switch to a different payment provider.  It’s not so easy.  PayPal is designed into the wiring of the Smashwords platform.  They run the credit card processing for our retail store, and they’re how we pay our authors and publishers.  PayPal is also an extremely popular, trusted payment option for our customers.  It is not feasible for us to simply switch to another provider, should such a suitable provider even exist, especially with so few days notice.”

This is why you don't marry an evil bitch.
2704  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Separating Bitcoin's Legitimate Business's on: February 25, 2012, 02:05:25 AM
I don't think it's a bad idea, surprised at the negativity.

LoveBitcoins is not insurance but it is a commitment. I suppose really all it does is make it unlikely that the site will be a small scam, it could certainly be worth 100BTC to set up something large.

The insurance company would have to solve the trust issue itself, but some people here do already have some trust and selling/renting it doesn't seem bad at all.

For example I could probably start a store and enough people would be willing to trust me for a small amount that I could get reviews etc. But I don't want to start a store, so instead I talk on the phone with some guy, hear his plans, take a deposit from him and tell people that if they get screwed it's on me. Now he gets a faster start, people have more peace of mind and I make a little money.

Regarding Bitcoin eliminating the need for trust, I completely disagree. Bitcoin lets us have money without third party risk, but there is still the need to find trusted trading partners.
2705  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BIP 16 / 17 in layman's terms on: February 24, 2012, 03:51:40 AM
Waiting 6 confirmations to get refunded might suck.  Especially if its the fault of the cashier.

Lol wut

Sorry to be short. The silly part is the cashier waiting for the coins she accidentally charged you incorrectly to get 6 confirms. Obviously no one wants to wait 6 confirms in any situation.

Waiting any confirms at all in any small value situation where you can actually see the person is just rude and unnecessary. If a guy is willing to walk off without paying why both pretending to pay first? To get a 10 or 60 minute head start? Where you going to run after him and try to fight about it? It makes zero difference whether  cops get there 1 hour or 2 hours after the fact to take your report about the stolen groceries.
2706  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BIP 16 / 17 in layman's terms on: February 24, 2012, 01:53:28 AM
Waiting 6 confirmations to get refunded might suck.  Especially if its the fault of the cashier.

Lol wut
2707  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why do we allow zero transaction blocks? on: February 24, 2012, 01:19:07 AM
In addition to the previous points every block empty or not makes it one block more work to rewrite a particular previous block making the tx in them a little bit more secure.
2708  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BIP 16 / 17 in layman's terms on: February 24, 2012, 12:00:47 AM
I don't understand how a 2 phase commit will improve security when one of the phases will only practically be controlled by the attaker?

So say you go to the store and buy a snickers. Today you verify amount of BTC and destination address then send the money. The store sees the payment (one destination address per register) and lets you exit the store.

With these BIPS the only change is that the guy behind the register has to press an ACCEPT button right?

Am I understanding this correctly?
I don't think you are understanding this correctly.

Someone has to hit two accept buttons to spend those coins.  This keeps your cashiers from spending the funds without the boss' approval.

It seems rare that you'd need a cashier to have access, just pay give them watching only access. Multi-sig is for when multiple bosses need to sign off and other cases like that.
2709  Economy / Gambling / Re: Are bitcoin poker rooms screwed now that it looks like America will let it's on: February 23, 2012, 10:18:24 PM
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According to one of the most respected gaming reporters in the business, federal legislation that would regulate and legalize the online poker industry in the United States is more than likely shut down until 2013 at the earliest.

On his Twitter account Friday afternoon, Las Vegas Review-Journal reporter Howard Stutz chirped to his readers, “One Wall Street analyst opinion: Internet poker legalization not being attached to the payroll tax bill means the issue is dead for 2012.” Stutz was discussing the recent legislation in Congress regarding the Payroll Tax Extension bill, which many had rumored could potentially feature online poker regulations as a “rider” in much the same manner as the original Unlawful Internet Gaming Enforcement Act (UIGEA) was passed in 2006. However, expectations of that rider were tamped down earlier in the week.
Federal Online Poker Legislation Likely Shut Down Until 2013
http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/federal-online-poker-legislation-likely-shut-down-until-2013-21211/

Why can't they just leave poker players alone?

Jesus is starting to sound prescient. Let them have their money, we'll use ours.
2710  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: probability that 2 clients generate the same public key? on: February 23, 2012, 10:12:25 PM
As it happens, the numbers in bitcoin are so large that it doesn't matter too much.  As you can read above, if every person on the planet generated 77 thousand addresses every second of their life for the next 75 years we would expect a 50% chance of collision.

To be honest, I don't really think that's enough of a margin if we're planning to be secure for a long long time, I would rather see orders of magnitude similar to the age of the universe.  However, it's certainly enough for our practical purposes today.  Possibly by the time it becomes relevant, bitcoin will have evolved to use a different addressing scheme.


When your team of 6 billion finally finds a collision on average you'll get 21 million bitcoins / total number of addresses. That'll be exciting.

I'll keep my wishes for safe car rides.
2711  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Microsoft Paper on Adjusting Bitcon's Transaction Fees on: February 23, 2012, 08:34:17 AM
This paper does not matter IMHO.
Any reason?

It predicts people won't pass around info for free, but we do. They could just as easily write that bittorrent doesn't work because people have no incentive to share. It's like those 'studies' that determine that bees can't fly because their wings aren't long enough.
2712  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is firstbits down/broken? on: February 22, 2012, 06:41:00 PM
I am getting notification that an address ins't part of the chain despite it having 63 confirmations and showing in both blockexplorer and blockchain.info.

You are correct, looking into it now.

blockchain.info can help you in the meantime.

edit: cron failed, should be all caught up now.
2713  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Digital goods service? on: February 22, 2012, 05:50:02 PM
That makes sense Spike.

Probably my first idea there would be best done by just having an existing host add "gate this file with BTC".
2714  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Would you be willing to buy shares in this ? on: February 22, 2012, 05:54:19 AM

I expect those names to be worth a good amount in the future. Maybe $100k+ when Bitcoin is way big, but that might be like 100BTC only. This wouldn't be a problem if I had dollars to invest, but I only have coins. So I should only do this if I think the Amount of bitcoins the names will be worth is going to go up, and... that doesn't seem clear at all.

~350BTC? Does it seem reasonable to get that for it in a few years?

Suppose a bitcoin is worth $4.50 in two years, what do you think the domain will be worth? Really hard for me to tell since I think $4.50/BTC in two years is the least likely scenario ever.

Another thing to consider, and it makes this a clear no to me instead of a slight no, is the future of domain names in general. If there is an IP crackdown it could spur a new system pretty fast. It's a technical problem really and a good solution might be found at any time with the right motivation.
2715  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Armory Crowdfunding: Get rewards for contributing! on: February 21, 2012, 11:14:38 PM
I have a MultiBit twitter feed (MultiBitOrg) for release announcements:
Just tweeted:

Armory (excellent alt Bitcoin client) is crowdfunding. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64449.0;all #bitcoin



Lets get those BTC flowing into etotheipi's rocket address and get him working on Bitcoin fulltime!

Just tweeted the same thing from the bitcoin horn.

And added Armory donation thread to my sig.
2716  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Armory Crowdfunding: Get rewards for donating! on: February 21, 2012, 08:59:56 PM
I'll be donating (again), just deciding how much. Keep up the good work!
2717  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Unconfirming transaction on: February 21, 2012, 08:47:58 PM
It's only been about 5 blocks, but it's 10BTC and has a .0005 fee. It is not large in size only one input.

The only thing unusual I can see is that the change address is the same as the input so the sender was not using the standard client.

Ohh... I'm reading this as meaning it's input is unconfirmed itself is that right?

http://blockchain.info/address/d3c9db1d8cc75b44e610990a6e0e106d2c14ecda

edit: It just confirmed, I'm still wondering if anything strange was going on so I'll leave this open.
2718  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Digital goods service? on: February 21, 2012, 02:13:22 AM
The model I'm thinking of might be risky and not good, but here it is.

You let people put stuff up for free and download for free, this will get you a big base.

You let people charge if they want and take a decent cut out of it, more than the bandwidth costs you covering for all the free hosting you do.

If the free is getting to be too much you could limit how much free a user can get, maybe they pay for a premium account which gives them all the 'free' they want.

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A different way would just to provide the plumbing and no audience and nothing for free and take a very small cut. But I think this model will be fairly easy to copy and it'll just be a matter of who can provide cheapest bandwidth. But still there would be some first to market advantage.
2719  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fee free online wallet / better client on: February 21, 2012, 01:06:55 AM
Would you expect people to hold and handle and send your cash for you for free?

MyBitcoin did this though and I'm sure many others do and/or will.
2720  Economy / Gambling / Re: My statement is rejected, Reason: No incentive for one side on: February 20, 2012, 09:48:42 PM
the world ending doesn't mean human life ending, it also doesn't mean bitcoin ending

i for one do think the world as we know it will end on dec 21st, nothing mystical, just one giant self fulfilling prophecy, and a bunch of groups that are planning on that day as the day to carry out whatever plans for a new world they have

Agreed, lots of people are totally out of this world and it won't affect them at all.
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