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3701  Economy / Economics / Re: Withdrawl bitcoins to paypal on: July 02, 2011, 01:40:06 AM
You want PP? I'll give you some of that for coins. PM me.
3702  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Show your firstbits - get 2 bitcents on: July 02, 2011, 01:37:57 AM
.02 BTC received! Thanks!

Quite welcome.

Everyone before this post should be paid. Let me know if I skipped you somehow.
3703  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Show your firstbits - get 2 bitcents on: July 02, 2011, 01:26:13 AM
Watch out for that first step. It's a duzy!

It's your lucky day. By the time I got to yours I zoned out enough to do the same one twice. That step was a duzy! Please do not return the extra.
3704  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in TIME magazine on: July 02, 2011, 12:48:33 AM
This whole thing about all press is good press is nonsense.
The media is scaring the shit out anyone who might even consider using BTC.
How does that look for BTCs user base over the long term......

+1

Corporations spend huge amounts on advertising and PR for good reason.

Good press (and there is some) would be better obviously, but press can't do long term damage imo. They could write that Satan uses Bitcoin sauce to barbecue kittens and babies, and all that would mean is that people who are afraid of helping Satan cook don't get the advantages until later when it's obvious that Satan uses the dollar as a marinade.
3705  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Pay $0 for electricity? on: July 01, 2011, 06:54:11 PM
 Huh

0=100?
3706  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Paypal did it - Bitcoin should do the same - 10BTC Bounty for implementation on: July 01, 2011, 06:52:32 PM
Are you not counting instawallet for some reason? If you haven't looked, it puts coins in a link, you can give it to anyone and they can secure them by moving them to another instawallet or anywhere else.
3707  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wikileaks now takes Bitcoin. on: July 01, 2011, 12:08:45 PM

Send it to the US government, with a big red stamp that says 'TOP SECRET'.

Of course I thought of that, but I'd have to leave my computer to get the envelope.
3708  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MetaCo.in Deal: MineThings.com, the game that brought me to bitcoin on: July 01, 2011, 11:07:57 AM
Any existing players of MineThings on this forum?

I play. I'd do the deal, but I've already got 3 mines and extra credits (bought with coins of course).
3709  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MetaCo.in Deal: MineThings.com, the game that brought me to bitcoin on: July 01, 2011, 11:06:55 AM
I love this. I know exactly how MineThings' operator learned of Bitcoin, from a guy who I told. So this makes me your great grandfather Gabriel.

Keep up the good work son.
3710  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wikileaks now takes Bitcoin. on: July 01, 2011, 10:55:05 AM
Does anyone know the best way to show/give wikileaks this image? I can't find an email address.




 
3711  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FirstBits.com - remember and share Bitcoin addresses on: July 01, 2011, 10:00:17 AM

pretty cool:



I like it.
3712  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FirstBits.com - remember and share Bitcoin addresses on: July 01, 2011, 08:37:20 AM

I guess this "Add To Search Bar" plugin takes the actual url of the form action and adds that as an url in the search bar. It doesn't show me the url though - it's embedded in the search bar.

Here's the home page for the add-on
https://firefox.maltekraus.de/extensions/add-to-search-bar

I just see a form field and right click on it to turn it into a search bar item.

Ah, the page makes it clear. That is pretty cool.
3713  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Show your firstbits - get 2 bitcents on: July 01, 2011, 07:22:42 AM
Donated to the cause. Good work

Firstbits: 187G (Helps if you received coins before 0.3.18 with the 100 default addresses)

Can we tell if all 3 char combos are taken, how may 4 combos left, etc?

Thanks so much!

Not going to be many 3char (not counting the 1) left, there are 35^4=1.5M 4chars so there should be a lot of those left, but I don't know what the exact fraction is right now. I think the 4 and 5 will become rare before long, but it'll be a really long time before the 6 and 7 get anywhere near filled up.
3714  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FirstBits.com - remember and share Bitcoin addresses on: July 01, 2011, 07:16:41 AM

I was going to say - what this really needs is a Firefox Search plugin that makes it so the web site doesn't need to be there, or get hammered, it just goes to the block chain.

But then I remembered my "Add To Search Bar" add-on and tried that. Sure enough one -right-click and FirstBits is now a search entry on the Firefox Search Bar. I can drop an address in there and it does the magic.
 

How does this work exactly? Your search bar now knows to convert an address to it's firstbits? Or it assumes the firstbits.com/ and takes you to the page?
3715  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is willing to create on: July 01, 2011, 07:09:58 AM

 
3716  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FirstBits.com - remember and share Bitcoin addresses on: July 01, 2011, 07:02:01 AM
But another thing, does the lookup in "block explorer" search in oldest first order or most recent first order. Because if the latter it seems someone could gen a new address that matches your address prefix and use it to get it in the chain. If it searches and finds the match more recent it would find that one as the single match. But you thought of that I'm sure...

It starts with the earliest so a new address that matches does not change any previous address' firstbits.
3717  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FirstBits.com - remember and share Bitcoin addresses on: July 01, 2011, 06:36:37 AM

If you find the first partial version of an unused address and add two more correct characters would you be reasonably safe to use that for a new address? It seems to me quite safe. Not sure of the probability though.

Seems pretty safe unless you were the target of an attack. The chance of a problem has to do not just with the number of extra chars, but the length and time and rate at which new addresses are entering the chain.

 
3718  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FirstBits.com - remember and share Bitcoin addresses on: July 01, 2011, 04:41:03 AM
I would like to see the 'first bit' concept accepted as a standard. Blockexplorer should use it as well as the clients....
I think it would be a great addition to blockexplorer or similar and I really want a web wallet with integration, but...

I agree.

...but firstbits does have the disadvantage of no checksum...

I disagree. The 34-some string requires a checksum because it is so darn long. A 1+4 or 5 character (of size 34 domain) does not need a checksum (like a phone number). I expect we'll have a MIME type so that firstbits.com/1xxxx resolves a very well defined string (perhaps a meta tag). I've seen discussion of a bitcoin:123456789012345678901234567890+payment format. But the key advantage of firstbits is not verbosity, but brevity.

As for UX, if the user comes in through a URL, I see no reason to present much more than the fully resolved address. But if the user uses the form/input, then more likely than not, he's playing with his own address. I'd highly recommend you explain what the user is seeing. It has not tiny-url-ed the address (as many like me initially assumed). Even now that I know how it works, I'm still manually typing in 1+8 characters and cutting one then another until I find the minimum. Its a trivial, but strange, procedure (partly because the client doesn't yet let me 'copy-paste' from the transaction history).

I would expect the interface to dynamically inform me of the number of collisions (always showing me the 'firstbit') as I type, cuz I'm probably typing with the full string at my side, otherwise, I would have used a link.

A phone number doesn't need a checksum because the worst case scenario is "Uh, who?".

I'm not going to add a checksum, I'm just aware of the risk and don't know if it would be appropriate to add to the 'official' client, but hey if it gets popular and everyone wants it maybe they'll do it.

You aren't getting it and that means I need to rethink the page wording. Enter a firstbits address and you get the one and only Bitcoin address that is the earliest to start with that string. Enter a Bitcoin address and you get the string that differentiates it from all earlier addresses in the chain - it's firstbits address.

You do not need to try over and over like you describe.

Showing the number of matches would be a lot of work for no benefit and possible confusion. All addresses start with "1" but only one has the firstbits "1" - the generate address in the genesis block. The number of collisions is not relevant.
3719  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Show your firstbits - get 2 bitcents on: July 01, 2011, 04:21:27 AM
Awesome, keep 'em coming.

FYI over 1000 unique visits to FirstBits.com in June and it didn't open until the 13th.
3720  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you really want a Currency or a Speculation vehicle? on: July 01, 2011, 01:44:08 AM
My conclusion; Peg it to something. And use it as a real thing.

I agree and even said the exact same thing in a previous post.  How do you get people to see the light though?  That's the difficulty.  Too many people are think BTC's will be worth $100 or more per coin someday despite having no logical explanation as to how that will happen under current conditions. 

Of course it won't happen under current conditions. It will happen if conditions are different in the future.
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