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3301  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if Bitcoin Fails ? on: March 29, 2022, 07:51:07 PM
3) If Bitcoin Fails, Big Government Wins
I can't say this because many big governments like USA, EU and many countries in Afrca support bitcoin, many governments do not accept bitcoin but accept their citizens to trade it, but anyone trading bitcoin in such country is on its own, but allowed. Only few countries banned cryptocurrencies totally, countries like China.

Bitcoin can not fail, especially not because of fiat that bitcoin will fail because fiat held today will have less value tomorrow and the more times passes, the more fiat are worthless.
Most countries in Africa don't permit Bitcoin transaction down till this moment, not even United States and most European countries.
Bitcoin has come to solve problems fiat hasn't not to compete with fiat, the rapid adoption of Bitcoin fiat will loss it's value gradually.
"don't permit Bitcoin transaction"? Including the US and European countries? I'm sorry but what are you saying? In certain US states you can even pay taxes using bitcoin, and in Europe there are several crypto-friendly banks and physical places where you can buy and pay directly in cryptos.
3302  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How safe it is to invest in cryptocurrency on: March 29, 2022, 07:04:51 PM
Nowadays investing in bitcoin and other cryptos is way safer and simpler than years ago. Before it was a huge bet, the whole system could've failed any moment, now we have even big companies and banks investing in cryptos. Of course there still are a lot of scams and price volatility, it's something that mustn't be forget, but in the long run we should be fine.
3303  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mt. Gox may return Bitcoin worth over $6 billion on: March 29, 2022, 06:58:08 PM
If they do their return distribution, it might create another FUD wave that will affect the market. People might worry about selling pressure from people who get their Bitcoin after years. Obviously years ago, they bought Bitcoin at much lower price than now. In my opinion, it won't bring much selling pressure because not all of them will sell on the market in a single day.  In addition, total trading volume last 24 hour of Bitcoin is $36 billion according to Coinmarketcap
I was thinking the same: probably we're going to have some FUD, as usual, and some people will start panic selling because they have no idea of what s actually going on. $6 billion is nothing special with the current BTC value, this market is way different compared to a couple of years ago.
3304  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why there are no price war on exchanges! on: March 29, 2022, 04:12:25 PM
I am wondering why no star-up is messing up the market with price war, or those giants not wanting to beat Binance by lowering their rates.
So you're saying that you would trust a brand new exchange just because it has lower fees instead of others that have been on the market for years and years? And talking about Binance for example there are a ton of other things to do besides buying crypto. If you want to compete with the big guys I don't see the fees as something so relevant.
3305  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: UE e possibile nuovo regolamento wallet crypto: rischi sicurezza personale on: March 29, 2022, 03:46:17 PM
intendo che al solito si legifera senza sapere niente in materia
Questa purtroppo è la normalità del mondo odierno, il problema è che se davvero passasse questo abominio di legge poi hai voglia a farla togliere, quando mai torneranno a discutere il tema? Mi pare che in Canada e Singapore abbiano già passato una legge simile.
3306  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Greenpeace e Ripple all'attacco di Bitcoin on: March 29, 2022, 03:42:47 PM
L'obiettivo, vi prego non ridete, è quello di modificare il codice di Bitcoin per un passaggio alla POS.
Ci sto provando, veramente, ma non riesco a trattenermi. Mi piacerebbe capire chi e come se ne viene fuori con trovate del genere e perché non si preoccupano delle attività che non sono per nulla green. Quanti soldi sprecati per nulla...


@babo: per Ripple mi immagino che si riferisca al fatto che Larsen possiede una quantità enorme di XRP.
3307  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: UE e possibile nuovo regolamento wallet crypto: rischi sicurezza personale on: March 29, 2022, 03:37:16 PM
E' una opinione personale di qualcuno che probabilmente non capisce il nesso fra la nuova tecnologia e il sistema blockchain. Classico.
Non ho capito il tuo messaggio Babo, qui si parlare di comunicare alle autorità ogni singola transazione effettuata da e per banca/exchange/wallet, la gente sta iniziando a ricevere queste email:




https://blog.coinbase.com/making-your-voice-heard-ahead-of-thursdays-critical-eu-vote-f03730e83e5c
3308  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: White House office seeks public opinion on crypto climate implications! on: March 29, 2022, 03:59:23 AM
Following up on a recent executive order signed by President Joe Biden, the OSTP reached out to the general public to identify the energy and climate implications related to digital assets.
Nice, very nice, and why don't they try to do the same also with banks, gold, etc, etc? Maybe because it could seriously hurt some friends with common interests? It's always funny how they want to picture bitcoin and its mining like world's biggest problem, completely forgetting about all the other (real) problems.
3309  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Satoshi was dumb on: March 29, 2022, 02:47:30 AM
I woke up today, completely lucid, with the following realization: Satoshi was naive at worst and plain dumb at worst.

Back in 2008/2009 when Satoshi created/launched Bitcoin, he made the decision to 1) Have no premine 2) Never spent any of the coins he minted. 3) Disappear to eradicate himself as the last form of 'authority'. His reasoning probably being that nobody in their right mind would buy into a crypto that was unfairly distributed from the beginning, of which its creators would stand to benefit most and was controlled by them. I think at this point, you realize where I'm going with this.

13 years later, there are many thousands of shitcoins, most of which had some form of premine, made the creators bank and are still in control to a high degree. These shitecoins are worth millions and some even 100s of billions.

Even a genius like Satoshi miscalculated the stupidity, ignorance and greed of the average person
Not a bad presentation for being your first post in this forum... If Satoshi was so dumb why didn't you create a better bitcoin before him? It took you 13 years just to say that things could have been done in a different way? I hope this is a joke post because none of what you said makes sense.
3310  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency Around The World on: March 29, 2022, 02:42:56 AM
Okay so i stumbled across this post on twitter and i thought to share it among fellow members,
it shows the growth of crypto around the world, (Over 300 million users around the world) although am not sure how authentic the data or source of the data is, but it is interesting to see how crypto is gradually spreading in different part of the world and would continue spreading in years to come.
I know that of course it's an estimation but the numbers, in my opinion, make sense. It also gives us an idea of how much space for future growth there is, which is enormous! It would be interesting to see this chart next year, probably we could see that the number of users doubled!
3311  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Blockchain.com Reward account bloccato e cripto in staking sparite on: March 29, 2022, 02:36:18 AM
Insomma nulla da fare, nemmeno altro post ha sortito effetti !!! E niente, lascio stare ?

cit Roba da farti invecchiare !!!!
Hai provato a fare ricerche su Google e Reddit per esempio per vedere se ci sono altri casi simili al tuo? Io non ho mai depositato nulla su Blockchain.com perché mi aveva sempre fatto una cattiva impressione, ricordo che ero (sono?) iscritto alla loro newsletter e non mi piaceva l'insistenza che avevano, un conto è cercare di convincere le persone, un altro sembrare quasi disperati.
3312  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana on: March 28, 2022, 11:46:11 PM
Questa è l’unica classifica dove non bisogna essere in alto… ognuno si cerchi….

Metto il link al post perché potrebbe non essere chiaro dove cliccare:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5080637.msg59655766#msg59655766

Comunque.... non ci sono !  Wink
Non è un thread che seguo normalmente quindi ho notato solamente ora che ci sono veramente tanti utenti che ricevono un numero relativamente alto di sMerits però non ne inviano neanche uno, non pensavo ci fossero così tante persone alle quali non importa il sistema, anche se comunque ne beneficiano perché li ricevono. Peccato.
3313  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CEX ruins the true value of Bitcoin on: March 28, 2022, 10:23:47 PM
CEX is not here to stay. Sorry, centralized boys and girls. Centralized Exchanges are not going to be part of Bitcoin's future. They are just in place currently because we have not found a better way. But we are looking for better ways to make Bitcoin more decentralized. Decentralized Exchanges are the future. Its just a shame that you can't use DeFi with Bitcoin... Yet. But I have full faith in the increasing technology breakthroughs, especially when it comes to Blockchain.

We'll get there. Grin
If we want to accelerate bitcoin adoption, wether we like it or not, CEXs are very useful. What people should understand is that CEXs must be used mainly to deposit fiat, buy whatever you want to buy, and move it to your own personal wallet, don't use the CEX like it's a bank. You say CEXs won't last long, I'm curious to understand why in your opinion companies valued tens and tens of billion should fail/disappear in a market that is growing a lot.
3314  Local / Italiano (Italian) / UE e possibile nuovo regolamento wallet crypto: rischi sicurezza personale on: March 28, 2022, 08:38:26 PM
Mi è capitato sottomano questo articolo di oggi: Nuovo regolamento UE mette a rischio i wallet crypto

Prendendo questo estratto dell'articolo linkato qui sopra, che è un'opinione personale di Patrick Hansen di Unstoppable DeFi, è possible che "la maggior parte delle aziende di criptovalute non saranno più in grado o disposte a transare con portafogli non ospitati per rimanere conformi."

Quindi, se ho inteso correttamente, vorrebbe dire che tutti i wallet personali non sarebbero più utilizzabili per transazioni da e per exchange in quanto non esiste un processo di KYC su Ledger, MetaMask, TrustWallet, etc, gli unici giri permessi sarebbero tra exchange dove l'utente è già verificato e la propria banca.

Quello che mi preoccupa particolarmente è che se poi dovessero in qualche modo implementare un riconoscimento personale dei wallet, al primo hack della piattaforma chiunque potrebbe sapere che Gigino, che vive a Paperopoli in via Satoshi 21, possiede 500 BTC e quindi è multimilionario. C'è gente che non ha problemi a sequestrare o ammazzare per cifre irrisorie, cosa potrebbe succedere a quel punto? E soprattutto, chi offrirebbe protezione in casi del genere? La stessa UE ti ricomprerebbe i BTC che ti hanno sottratto con la forza? Non penso proprio.

Questa nuova possibile legge, come dicevo nel titolo, potrebbe mettere a repentaglio la sicurezza di un gran numero di persone in tutto il mondo. È effettivamente così o sono io che sono troppo tragico?
3315  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CEX ruins the true value of Bitcoin on: March 28, 2022, 06:51:38 PM
What is interesting, however, is that despite people supporting Bitcoin they are also supporting centralized exchanges and custodial wallets and all things that are essentially against the Bitcoin standard. So perhaps we could ask whether the people really prefer complete independence. For many years, DExes are left behind by CExes in terms of volume. Moreover, despite compulsory KYC hassles and failing a number of times in the process, centralized exchanges are not losing popularity. Is it only because DExes don't support fiat? Or is it simply because CExes are generally better? Or perhaps people aren't really interested get out of fiat altogether?
It's for several reasons:
- At the beginning how/where would you buy bitcoin? On the street? From some stranger?
- The exchanges offer a certain level of security because they kind of explain you how to activate the 2FA etc
- Are we sure that someone who try to buy/use cryptos for the first time has the knowledge to manage DeFi exchanges and wallets?

I don't think CEXs are the devil, they're a good tool and I like to use them in combination with DeFi.


They're not, they are a necessity. They're merely facilitators for buyers and sellers to meet, and provide liquidity for the market. But from another viewpoint, exchanges can become very powerful, that can control this new "financial system" too, like banks control legacy systems. A balance is needed, enter decentralized exchanges like BISQ.
Probably in the future, a close one, big exchanges like Binance, Coinbase and FTX, that are always trying to follow all the different regulations around the world, could even ask and obtain some kind of bank permits, so they'll be able to lend money to people just like banks do nowadays. I see this as a natural evolution of this sector, big banks should really watch their backs because if I were them, I'd be pretty worried.
3316  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Next U.S. Crypto Center? on: March 28, 2022, 05:52:13 PM
One of the reasons why crypto is booming there is because of the inflation effect. This is the basis for Americans to prefer crypto and encourage the government to adopt it. So it's normal that US will become the first developed country to legalize bitcoin and other countries will follow suit. plus recently biden issued a special order on crypto. It's like crypto being pushed for adoption.
Don't underestimate Switzerland, they know for sure how to make money using someone else's money Grin The city of Lugano is already working in this direction, so the rest of the country could follow along shortly. And managing this kind of changes in a small country, such as Switzerland, it's way easier than doing it in big countries like the US.
3317  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: El Salvador's President Bukele gets An 85% Approval Rating on: March 28, 2022, 04:04:16 PM
Nayib Bukele issued some strict regulation following a surge on murders on El Salvador:
Curious to see how this is going to work out. Due the situation I can understand why he is doing it. What I'm going to say is not a popular opinion but sometimes democracy simply doesn't work, so alternative (temporary) solutions must be found.

He mentioned the fact that a El Salvadorean passport would come with a 150K investment in bitcoin bonds.
I think this doesn’t bode well for this initiative.
For sure this is not good for him and the country. Many people already had several security concerns about moving to El Salvador, a murder rate increase is a serious thing.
3318  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Domanda importante su utilizzo Ledger Nano X on: March 28, 2022, 03:43:01 PM
Oltre a quanto già menzionato vorrei aggiungere due cose, con magari una richiesta di confronto/conferma.

Il fatto che i fondi possano essere trafugati solo avendo private key direi "ni".
Se i fondi presenti sul Ledger vengono messi in staking o viene fornita liquidità a servizi esterni e questi vengono attaccati credo che la perdita di fondi ci sia. Il Ledger permette solo di autorizzare che solo tu hai dato conferma della transazione, ma se interagisci con smart contract attaccati e a hai assocciato indirizzo del Ledger i fondi possono essere comunque persi.
Certo è che avere fondi sul Ledger e affidarli a servizi esterni (di dubbia sicurezza) è un contro senso. Non so bene se un problema in questo senso può essere dato anche dallo Staking.
Hai fatto bene a specificarlo, la mia mia risposta era relativa solo al semplice storage sul Ledger. Se non ci sono interazioni esterne, approvate dall'utente ovviamente, allora dovremmo essere al sicuro.

Per la questione antivirus la miglior sicurezza è la "coscienza" dell'utente, un antivirus non è necessario, più lo si usa (o si fa affidamento su di lui) e più si delega la responsabilità. Ci può stare averlo, ma in primis l'utente deve essere capace di valutare:

dove e come navigare
cosa installare
Ecco qui non sono d'accordo: un momento di distrazione può accadere a chiunque, anche agli utenti più esperti, quindi un antivirus per me è sempre meglio averlo. Alla fine non vedo che problemi potrebbe provocare averlo, è una protezione extra.
3319  Economy / Services / Re: [FULL] [banned mixer] Signature Campaign | Up to 0.005 BTC/W on: March 28, 2022, 03:34:45 PM
First week paid
Received, thank you!
3320  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Breakout on: March 28, 2022, 05:43:00 AM
1. The FUD that is still going on although at a decreased size about all the "bans", "energy consumption", "PoW bad", "flippening",... fooling the brainwashed people into staying away or selling their valuable bitcoins.
If there is one sure thing is that FUD won't stop anytime soon, especially "organized FUD" because too many times I've seen a lot of bad news against bitcoin coming out all together, sometimes even using old news mixed with new ones just to create more confusion and fear. Honestly, I don't even care anymore, but for the new ones, well, it's not easy dealing with that.
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