What's going on with the project? The community doesn't look happy at all...
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Sbaglio o sembra che ci siano importanti problemi con questo progetto? Inizio a leggere che qualcuno sta scappando con i soldi, avete ulteriori info? La situazione sembra seria.
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io non vi capisco, siete proprio masochisti ma come fate a leggere questa monnezza.. cioe e' come se andate al parco a giocare con la merda dei cani (quella fresca) de gustibus io passo, non ho tempo, quel poco che ho lo uso per cose piacevoli o interessanti Tanti anni fa mi piaceva Zelig, i contenuti ovviamente erano abbastanza vuoti però spesso faceva ridere, ora questo thread è diventato una piccola dose quotidiana di risate Soprattutto mi piace quando il giornalista di turno ha una conoscenza dell'argomento inversamente proporzionale alla sua arroganza, quelli sono i miei preferiti.
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He definitely could and had been buying pizza with fiat all the time. Laszlo offered to buy pizzas for Bitcoin because it had never been done before.
Are you sure? How did Laszlo Hanyecz know that no one had done this before? How can we know that Laszlo Hanyecz was the first to exchange bitcoin for real goods? Yes, perhaps he was the first to make a public offer, but there could have been thousands of private deals before Laszlo in which bitcoin was broadly involved. Although bitcoin didn't yet have an "official" price set by the market, it still could have been used in the barter economy among those who understood bitcoin should have some value because of its peculiarities. Perhaps, people, who really believed in bitcoin when it had no market price, didn't want to announce they were participating in the bitcoin economy because they valued their privacy, which is why we have never heard of them. But we definitely have heard of Laszlo who has a public profile and is registered under his real name. If Satoshi Nakamoto, a mysterious creator of Bitcoin, has said he just exchanged his bitcoin for pizza, would you believe him? I doubt it since there is no way to verify that. But in the case of Laszlo, it is a lot easier to verify he had bought something because everything about him is public information. Sometimes it doesn't matter who is actually the first but who gets the more exposure. It's very likely that someone else bought something physical before Laszlo, but he started a thread on this forum making his offer open to anyone, that's the difference. And let's not forget that this pizza exchange became famous after a while especially because of the value off the 10k bitcoins.
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Although its quit difficult to trust somebody in this present world. But recently I have started educating my wife about Bitcoin. Before now she taught I was just wasting my time on the forum since she was not seeing any financial benefit. She never knew that I was taking my time to learn and observe from the forum. Just yesterday I enlightened her about wallets. I showed her how much I have and how the market affects my account. I also taught her about passwords and keys. I showed her where I kept the password and keys and told her how to use them in case I am not around. For me she is trustworthy and can handle my finance for the good of the children when I am not around. I just want to make it easy for her because she might not be technically sound to go through any other complex process to retrieve or have access to my wallet.
I agree with you, the only way is to completely trust someone, either your wife/husband or kid/s. It's something that must be done little by little, at the end it's not that difficult to access a wallet and move funds but explaining the whole process to someone completely new, well, it's a lot of information, especially because it takes you just one small mistake and you can lose everything.
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As the market is falling now, does that mean El Salvador will fall too? Many shades have been thrown on this matter. What happens to El Salvador if the market falls!! El Salvador has a very little reserve of bitcoin, less than 2,000 bitcoins, they're still in the early phase of this very interesting financial experiment. If the country will fail it's because of other reasons, not because bitcoin. Let's not forget that we're talking about a third world country with a small economy and serious safety issues because of the local gangs. Anyway I really hope they can make it, at least it looks like that Bukele is actually trying to solve the criminality problem.
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Vedo che l'autore di questo "articolo" fa Muratore di cognome. Non gli è mai passato per la testa che forse è un segnale divino e gli era già stata assegnata la sua mansione fin dal momento della nascita?
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Your post was 4/22 at that time bitcoin was at $40k and now bitcoin price has dropped below $30k. Bitcoin has dropped a lot since last month. So have you bought bitcoin yet?. we should not compare with people who bought bitcoin from 2013, 2014, but we still have chance to own cheap bitcoin when price is under 30k USD.
I don't know when it will go up again but I'm sure bitcoin will keep going up, maybe even $100k or $1 million as you want. Just give bitcoin more time, now I want to know if you will buy bitcoin when the price drop, or you panic and leave the market.
Bitcoin price already went down but I notice that many people who don't already own bitcoin usually they always say "I'm gonna wait a little more, price is gonna be cheaper" and they wait, they wait, and then bitcoin begins to go up, they wait again for a new dump but, unfortunately for them, by that time it's already too late, they missed the opportunity.
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As the saying goes dont keep your eggs in the same basket. So have you saved all of your btc in mutiple wallets\software?
I like to split with electrum air gapped and bitcoin core.
Should i make it 50:50 even though bitcoin core is always online?
The amount is not that much but i am thinking that if i make it to good amount of mbtc, it will be prudent to divide the amount.
Any OGs who can give feedback?
It's really a personal choice. If you have a lot of bitcoins then for sure the safest thing to do is split them in different wallets, and eventually place those wallets in different places if we're talking about Ledger etc. You say you're amount is not that much, you are the only one to know what "not that much" means because depending on the country you live in and you salary for some people $1k could be a lot of money and for others $100k could be nothing special.
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Have we ever experienced this kind of downtrend before?? What's the latest on how long this might last, or if it's even going to recover.
How long have you been in the crypto game? This bear market until now it's not even that bad, years ago we had a way way worse bear market that laster years, if you can't handle it right now maybe it's better that you take a little time off the crypto for your health because things could get even worse. Yes, it is quite possible that this is not the price bottom yet. There are forecasts that the cryptocurrency can also fall by about 40-50 percent even longer. There was already a similar drop in the first half of 2018. But then the bearish period lasted one and a half to two years. I don't think it will happen again. I think that in the autumn the cryptocurrency will gradually recover and will continue to grow. But summer will still be about the same. But in any case, it should be remembered that the cryptocurrency market develops cyclically and a big drop will be followed by a big rise. Let's say that another 50% dump would mean BTC around $15k, and it also means going below the previous ATH, and that's something that, for the moment, never happened in bitcoin's short history. Personally I hope we won't go below $25k, otherwise even some big players would be in troubles.
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Have we ever experienced this kind of downtrend before?? What's the latest on how long this might last, or if it's even going to recover.
How long have you been in the crypto game? This bear market until now it's not even that bad, years ago we had a way way worse bear market that laster years, if you can't handle it right now maybe it's better that you take a little time off the crypto for your health because things could get even worse.
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Hello guys, Do you know where is can purchase legally a real-estate asset in crypto?
Lately there are more real estates agencies that accept bitcoin all over the world, anyway I think that you pay in bitcoin but they immediately convert into fiat or stable coins. So you don't need to go in a country with bitcoin used as legal tender.
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The crypto market made massive progress in 2021, but we can see significant swings that have scared many crypto investors in 2022. The price of Bitcoin has dropped below $31,000, and many investors panicked. But don’t run from crypto before you read the article. Besides the article, do you guys realize in what kind of mess our world is right now? If we think all the stuff that happened and that keep happening I think it's incredible to have bitcoin at this current value. Should have happened this situation 4-5 years ago probably at this point we'd be at -90%.
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I don't know, 8 years to me looks like a very short amount of time, I really don't understand how some of you may even think that bitcoin will be able to turn ES from one of the poorest economy in the world into the richest country in the world. Especially because they own just less than 2,000 BTC, that's a huge number for an individual but a small one for a company and/or a country. have you seen people investing on ordinary fiat and making it successful in life? if that happens then i can assure you bitcoin can do better in many ways because it appreciates with time forget about being volatile or not, am not saying a country will turn fully developed from developing and underdeveloped countries within this short range but the entire economic and financial status of such countries can be improved, they will be debt free, their government will concentrate on what to offer the country to improve development and livelihood, because i believe a house is not built a day, it takes a while and same is expected of countries that adopt bitcoin, they will be growing gradually till they become fully developed. Wait, saying that bitcoin can completely change the course of a country and improve a lot of things, ok, I totally agree with that and I believe it's actually possible; saying that ES will become the richest country in the world just because they have a few thousands bitcoins, that's totally a different thing. At that point we'd have single individuals richer than the richest country, it's something basically impossible.
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who is the person who says that today it should be worth 40k and tomorrow 42k? isn't it something decentralized that nobody controls? who agrees on the price to be like this?
It works just like anything else in the world: supply and demand. If more people want to buy the price goes up, if more people want to sell the price goes down. No one "says bitcoin's value", people decide that.
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I dont understand how people look at that guy foolishly. [/quote] Because people are stupid and envious. These days of course I read many comments online, especially of FB, about how stupid Laszlo was, how they hope he doesn't have any bitcoin left, etc etc, why is that? Because those are just poor people, poor both as IQ and financially, and they enjoy reading that kind of news. Where were those people back in 2010 while Laszlo already knew what bitcoin was and he was mining a ton of coins per day? What did they accomplish in their life besides criticizing on social media? Probably nothing. In the meantime Laszlo is part of this community's history forever and we all should be grateful and proud of what he accomplish to do.
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ok, I know for a fact that I am not the only one, but Im having an issue with it. I discovered several months ago, that I had a personal liquidity issue. My income is decent, but have little to no liquid savings. If I save a few hundred bucks, by the end of the month, it has gone into bitcoin. The ideal picture is to have an emergency cash savings and to have some dry powder on the sides to buy the dips or DCA into my bags, however, I end up DCA-ing anything I have left over or think that I might have left over after bills and even then, sometimes, I may sacrifice $100 of a $300 bill knowing it does not have to be paid for another week. I want to stack as many sats as possible especially at its current price range, but it has become almost a destructive behavior or a sickness. I DCA into BTC everyweek on a schedule, but there is alot of extra being bought. You would think I was in a hurry or something like its going to go to 500,000 and never come back. (mental perception)lol. I know I need to instill some discipline and get cash plush especially with our economic outlook right now and be able to weather the storm if it comes without having to sell to cover an emergency or a bill. If I was single with no mortgage and no kids, I wouldnt care but.....
How have some of you stopped doing this over leveraging. Crypto rich but cash poor. Tips and advice appreciated.
First of all you could reduce your monthly BTC purchases by 50% for example, in that way you can keep buying BTC but also having some cash ready. Another solution would be to sell part of those BTC every time they go in price, buy them again if and when they go down again, and keep the difference.
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ma così diventa una banca ed è contrario al progetto, allo scopo iniziale.
Non sono d’accordo. Innanzitutto bitcoin non è nato contro le banche commerciali, ma contro le banche centrali. Quelle che stampano moneta. Quindi depositare i bitcoin presso una “banca” non è in contrasto con il progetto iniziale. Sei sicuro al 100%? Il discorso di "be your own bank" era partito da Satoshi oppure come conseguenza dell'invenzione di bitcoin? Perché a questo punto mi fai venire il dubbio. Però in ogni caso affidandosi ad una banca, anche se commerciale, vuol sempre dire affidarsi a qualcun altro che ha il potere di vietare l'accesso ai tuoi propri fondi/proprietà. Poi capisco che qui sforiamo nel campo super idealista e che la vita reale sia (purtroppo) diversa e che, piaccia o no, certe istituzioni sicuramente non spariranno nei prossimi anni. penso che la differenza stia nel fatto che una banca commerciale puoi scegliere di evitarla, se non vuoi averci a che fare. Su quello siamo d'accordo, però la comodità del servizio è che se fai uno sbaglio o qualcuno ti frega in qualche modo sai che, in teoria, hai il sederino parato. Stesso discorso per le carte di credito. Se ti portano via le cripto tanti saluti, per quello dicevo che è bello il discorso idealista del rinunciare alle banche, fare tutto da soli, però questo tipo di libertà viene anche con una mancanza totale (almeno per il momento) di protezione. Questo è forse uno dei più grossi problemi al momento perché tanta gente non si sentirebbe sicura, e li capisco ovviamente.
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40 high schools isn't as big of a step as some others did (for example, France added Blockchain and cryptos into the overall school curriculum, not as an experiment in a bunch of schools), but it's still better than nothing. Exactly, it's way better than nothing because those students anyway will be able to understand and explain what bitcoin is also to their families, friends, etc, and we all have to start somewhere. Also I don't think it's fair comparing Argentina and France, we're talking about 2 completely different countries and economies.
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ma così diventa una banca ed è contrario al progetto, allo scopo iniziale.
Non sono d’accordo. Innanzitutto bitcoin non è nato contro le banche commerciali, ma contro le banche centrali. Quelle che stampano moneta. Quindi depositare i bitcoin presso una “banca” non è in contrasto con il progetto iniziale. Sei sicuro al 100%? Il discorso di "be your own bank" era partito da Satoshi oppure come conseguenza dell'invenzione di bitcoin? Perché a questo punto mi fai venire il dubbio. Però in ogni caso affidandosi ad una banca, anche se commerciale, vuol sempre dire affidarsi a qualcun altro che ha il potere di vietare l'accesso ai tuoi propri fondi/proprietà. Poi capisco che qui sforiamo nel campo super idealista e che la vita reale sia (purtroppo) diversa e che, piaccia o no, certe istituzioni sicuramente non spariranno nei prossimi anni.
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