Then, these people should be very cautious in sharing their crypto portfolio to others. If someone does something like that, he's just a stupid person, it doesn't matter wether it's related or not to a pub in Mexico. Do usually people go around saying "hey, I have 3 millions in my bank account"? No, so why should someone do the same with bitcoin or cryptos? Is there anyone here who would tell the others how many bitcoins he has? I don't think so. |
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Ciò nonostante sui mass media vengono ogni giorno riversate tonnellate di inchiostro su quanto bitcoin sia pericoloso per il piccolo risparmiatore a causa della sua volatilità ma poco o nulla sulla volatilità e i rischi di Paypal & Company.
La volatilità di bitcoin è un altro concetto rispetto alla volatilità rispetto a quella di un titolo azionario. Per me è un mistero da farsi esplodere il cervello. Dal mio home banking posso comprare Tesla, ,ma non posso comprare il bitcoin. Ovviamente la volatilità è del tutto simile, quindi anche il rischio di perdite dovrebbe essere equivalente, eppure tramite il mio home banking posso comprare solo tesla, ma non bitcoin. qualcuno saprebbe convincermi della ragionevolezza della situazione. Probabilmente perché una volta che compri bitcoin puoi spendere direttamente quel bitcoin senza bisogno di passare di nuovo dalla banca, quindi ti rende indipendente, e alla banca non piace. Con l'azione di Tesla non puoi comprarci direttamente un caffè, una cena o una macchina. Alla banca proteggere il cliente interessa meno di zero, l'importante è che gli serva a qualcosa. |
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Il sistema dei merit ha ridotto la quantità di utenti che avevano 20 account e campavano di bounty rendendo il forum illeggibile, col senno di poi non sta andando male; il problema piuttosto è che non esiste una 2FA, e gli account di questo forum sono preziosi.
[OT] Vero, pero' ha anche alimentato vari fenomeni: -post da 2 righe che fondamentalmente dicono "si sono d'accordo con te" -post di due righe che dicono "ah sono d'accordo con te che sei d'accordo con me" -post ripetuti che dicono sempre le stesse cose (nei migliori casi) -post ripetuti che non dicono niente (in diversi casi) fatti giusto per beccarsi qualche merit. Resto convinto che il contenuto informativo, ossia i post con contenuti originali e ragionati e che quindi arricchiscono davvero il forum siano in media molti di meno rispetto a qualche anno fa. [/OT] Il problema è che come sempre sembra che sia impossibile fare le cose fatte bene in questo forum: Theymos ha sempre detto che la decisione dei merit è insindacabile, quindi nessuno ha il potere di reputare assurda la scelta di dare 50 merit per un "sono d'accordo". Come in qualsiasi aspetto della vita l'essere umano, in assenza di regole e punizioni, farà di tutto per trarne un guadagno personale. Per ricollegarmi un minimo al discorso iniziale di questo thread e rendere questo OT meno OT, non posso fare altro che chiedermi cosa Satoshi abbia visto in Theymos dato che, se non sbaglio, fu lui "in persona" a consegnarli le chiavi del forum. |
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The first thing I thought when I saw this is that I would like to see it become generalized and start seeing bars of this style all over the world.
Although I immediately thought that there is a drawback: the regulations that consider Bitcoin as a financial asset and that make you have to declare, and if applicable, pay capital gains every time you pay for a beer or a coffee. With all the problems that a country like Mexico has your think that SAT (the Mexican equivalent of the IRS) has the power and the resources to check bitcoin transactions? Unless we're talking about someone who get caught because of other reasons, and then we can add bitcoin to the list, I don't really see how they could find someone who spent cryptos in a pub... There are worse ways to use and spend bitcoin, finding people who use them in a pub would be the last one. |
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Sono passati anni, ma il nuovo forum si deve ancora vedere.
In altri casi sarebbe stato un evidente scam, ma siccome e' teymos... Proprio lì volevo arrivare. È una situazione assurda in quanto oramai i fondi raccolti equivalgono a svariati milioni di dollari, il forum è sempre lo stesso da anni, dubito che Theymos sia ancora uno "full time student" dato che sono passati 9 anni da quel post del 2013, cosa gli costa spendere un paio di bitcoin per finalmente aggiornare tutto? Sono soldi donati proprio per questo. In compenso ha implementato il sistema dei merit, che a mio modesto avviso ha contribuito a peggiorare di parecchio la qualita' del forum. Il sistema dei merit ha ridotto la quantità di utenti che avevano 20 account e campavano di bounty rendendo il forum illeggibile, col senno di poi non sta andando male; il problema piuttosto è che non esiste una 2FA, e gli account di questo forum sono preziosi. |
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EDIT: parliamo di donazioni riscevute quando i bitcoin valevano, rispetto ad oggi, 4 spicci. Ancge ipotizzando un prezzo medio di 200$ avremo almeno 350 bitcoin di donazioni (anche se ricordo di aver letto di un certo paraipan, che targicamente scomparso ha portato con se un bel pò di bitcoin del forum) Andrebbe fatta una ricerca un po' approfondita perché mi pare che ci siano thread che parlino di questo tema, in ogni caso mi sembra di ricordare che per l'aggiornamento del forum, anni fa, fossero stati raccolti oltre 600 BTC. In teoria i fondi sarebbero dovuti essere usati per, appunto, ringiovanire il forum, in pratica non mi risulta che nulla sia stato fatto, non per niente sembra di essere in uno dei primi forum mai creati dall'avvento di internet  |
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If Bitcoin is a better and higher currency than fiat, why then do bitcoiners hurdle it?
I think money is best used for buying and selling not hoarding, we get to see the value more when using it.
This my thoughts, wby? Bitcoin is becoming also a store of value against the inflation, which is pretty high now after all the money they printed during the pandemic. Also bitcoin is not very common yet as payment method, this kind of things take time. Back in the '90s you could send an email if you wanted, but few people were using it so fax and mails were more used. With bitcoin will happen the same, we just need to wait. |
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Is it true that bitcoin is not affected by the altcoins? I am thinking it would have been better if only bitciin is existing as it will have more value, though bitcoin can not be compared to altcoins in many ways as it is the first and the giant. If they are called "altcoins" there is a reason, and I think there is enough space for everybody in this world. Bitcoin probably will always be the king but tokens like ETH etc actually help the growth of the sector. Many people wouldn't invest in bitcoin just because "now it's too expensive" and they prefer to buy altcoins, but then they eventually end up understanding more about bitcoin as well, so it's kind of win-win situation. Of course the downside are all the scams. |
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Yet another anonymous bitcoin transaction of about 489 btc that is worth $20,000,000 million was said to occur from a domant bitcoin wallet address as reported by a tracking bot called "whale alert" with details traced to October 2010 of it last active date, this was related to the last active date of bitcoin founder Satoshi Nakamoto on the bitcointalk.org forum in December, 2010 and such has spark many reactions and controversial views that it may be Satoshi bitcoin wallet, you could recall that the founder was last active on the forum same year the bitcoin wallet address was last active which makes it ignites lot of reactions that such could only be from Satoshi. To be sincerely with the way it looks from the above quote, one could easily believe its Satoshi haven being in possession of such huge amount as at then and from the look of the price at $0.17 btc worth placed on (hodl) over a very long time, and the wallet it was transferred into remains anonymous. who could have been smarter in doing this other than the founder himself as of then when information and technology of bitcoin ecosystem is premitive to bitcoiners. Other views:I agree with the second theory, so many people realized in the last few years that they had a lot of bitcoins sitting somewhere, probably because they mined them years and years ago and forgot where they store them. I believe Satoshi will never touch his bitcoins. |
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Nobody wants to die, but death is inevitable and sometimes unpredictable. I had a friend that was robbed and killed. His family couldn't have access to his Bitcoin account because nobody knew his password or even his email. It became extremely difficult because the armed robbers stole his laptop and phone. Currently his wife and son are suffering because he invested heavily on cryptocurrencies.
Data analyst believe that only one in four people share thier password with others. They also say that between 2.3 million and 3.7 million bitcoins amouting to over $15 to $24 billion have been lost due to disappearance of owners mainly caused by death.
Financial Analyst has advised the following:
1) Let at least one trusted individual know your password. It's difficult to get such person but it is better than loosing your investment's.
2) Write it and keep it in a vault. Although it's risky but at least it's more preferable.
3) Include your crypto investments in a will.
4) Use wallets that have inheritance plans.
5) Seek advice from cryto inheritance firms.
The conclusion is keep your Bitcoin secure, but accessible.
I agree that many people don't think about the consequences for their families in case something would happen to them. At the same time choosing the right person to explain how it works is not an easy choice, you must absolutely be 100% sure because money can really bring people to do things they would never do under normal circumstances. |
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Hi everyone, it's been awhile, just wanted to tell you that I still haven't sold a bit of BTC since 2013... if I can do it you can do it too!
Some of you may say it's a dumb decision or risky, but I'm all for BTC and positive about it. To the Moon!
There's nothing dumb when you hodl, it's simply the best decision in the long term, unless you're a great trader. I read several times articles and they all agree that in the long term hodling is the best move. Congratulations for hodling for almost 10 years now, that's actually impressive! |
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AIUTO. Shitcoin in arrivo in 3,2.... ;
CZ compra tutto El Salvador in 3, 2, 1... |
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If such a themed bar was opened up in my Neighborhood or town, it would be my favorite hangout. I totally agree with you! This is also a great marketing move because all the crypto enthusiasts for sure would go there, especially to meet new people interested in cryptos as well. I hope this will become a trend. |
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Elon's impact on the crypto market is no longer very big but there are still many people who relate to it when the bitcoin price goes up. Elon must have ulterior motives why he had to make that tweet, he must be trying to raise the price of dogecoin again but to no avail lol.
I do not agree, Elon's impact is big on the markets. And if someday he decides to sell all his coins and make a tweet about that, then we will see a big crash in the markets. But since Elon is bitcoin-friendly this will not happen, but I don't doubt Elon will manipulate the crypto markets again as he did in the past. Elon Musk has some impact just because the crypto market is full of people without any knowledge of this world, people who think they'll become millionaire in a few weeks, then at the first -5% they sell everything. If someone decides to buy or sell bitcoin depending on Elon Musk's tweets, well, I pity him, it means he's not able to think with his own brain. Luckily this kind of people will soon disappear because they'll lose everything. |
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Traders and alot rich traders investors are in 2 things.
Btc and usdt as USDT is safe place to hold funds but how the exchangers protect this ?
Imagine if something happens with usdt many people will lose so much that they never cant deal with crypto anymore so what is the exvhangers security plan to fully protect customers ?
As myself fully depend on usdt thats how much i trust usdt and usdc also.
People want to be in crypto if they can funds in stable coins to give them safety but if usdt not safe as there is rumours about usdt then all the crypto game will be over.
I can never sleep well if i know my money will be in volatile coins so USDT is now very important and gives confidence for investors and crypto lovers such us myself
I see a lot of confusion in this post. First of all Tether clarified their position with the US government, so that kind of FUD is quite old, and if you really don't trust USDT and want to have stable coins then there are plenty of options out there: BUSD, USDC, UST... Anyway I still don't understand why Tether should scam the whole ecosystem, how they could make more money with a scam rather than keep making a ton of money every single day. Ok now i trust usdt Besides your sarcastic answer, I'm not saying you must trust USDT, I told you some facts, real facts, regarding USDT, that's all. My life won't change wether you trust or not USDT, I simply tried to help you explaining better the situation, if you get offended because you write stuff that doesn't make sense and someone explains you why you're wrong, well, not my problem  |
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Traders and alot rich traders investors are in 2 things.
Btc and usdt as USDT is safe place to hold funds but how the exchangers protect this ?
Imagine if something happens with usdt many people will lose so much that they never cant deal with crypto anymore so what is the exvhangers security plan to fully protect customers ?
As myself fully depend on usdt thats how much i trust usdt and usdc also.
People want to be in crypto if they can funds in stable coins to give them safety but if usdt not safe as there is rumours about usdt then all the crypto game will be over.
I can never sleep well if i know my money will be in volatile coins so USDT is now very important and gives confidence for investors and crypto lovers such us myself
I see a lot of confusion in this post. First of all Tether clarified their position with the US government, so that kind of FUD is quite old, and if you really don't trust USDT and want to have stable coins then there are plenty of options out there: BUSD, USDC, UST... Anyway I still don't understand why Tether should scam the whole ecosystem, how they could make more money with a scam rather than keep making a ton of money every single day. |
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The problem with people of El Salvador adopting Bitcoin is that for one to do it, he/she needs to be tech savvy. You can't use Bitcoin if you at least never used a mobile phone. I'm not saying that no one in El Salvador doesn't use a mobile phone and I'm sure that in big cities that number is pretty big. But people in rural areas have probably heard about Bitcoin but haven't used it. According to this report (I don't know how trust worthy it is), only half of El Salvador's population uses Internet. And do you think that the situation in the first world's big cities is different? I don't think so. Probably the only difference is that people did hear about bitcoin, but I don't think many of them actually used it. Knowing the existence of something doesn't automatically mean that you also use it. Right now I feel that the majority of people are ok using Apple Pay, Google Pay, etc, not (yet) bitcoin. |
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The USD is losing value. The EUR is losing value. All national coins are inflationary, energy prices are through the roof and still BTC is only $36,500! People should buy BTC like crazy, this is something I don't understand, they keep using the crappy FIAT instead. FIAT will all make you poor! Don't come crying here after when BTC hits $100K, but FIAT is the worst investment someone can make these days. BTC is still cheap as peanuts considering its potential, too bad people don't see it, have fun staying poor and keep making those bankers rich. Unbelievable.
Right now there still are too many things going on: covid is not done yet, prices are going up, uncertainty because of the war... Many people are still struggling to get to the end of the month or simply filling their tank, I can understand why bitcoin doesn't seem to be a priority right now, even though it's actually a great moment to accumulate. |
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Elon Musk won't sell his bitcoins, he tweeted this and we see no big movement in the market. There was a time when his tweets had big effects on the market. This guy is losing his value by promoting Dogecoin.
Besides the fact that I'm sick and tired of people who keep mentioning Elon Musk like the crypto world depends on him, I don't find this news surprising: he doesn't need to sell, he doesn't need money, why should he sell now to accumulate few other billions of dollars he doesn't even need? I find way more impressive the Average Joe who won't sell even though his life could actually improve, but the Average Joe doesn't post that on Twitter. |
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ahahahah
ti presto i soldi a patto che non adotti bitcoin
esatto.. sta gente lo TEME peggio della PESTE o di una GUERRA (chissa perche poi!? come fai ad avere paura di un cacciavite?)
lo trovo assurdo, patetico ... da clown
Il FMI già da tempo sta adesso pure a El Salvador e paragonandolo alla peste secondo me non ci sei andato troppo lontano: per me lo vedono come un virus e non vogliono che inizi a diffondersi, ma oramai dubito potranno veramente fare qualcosa a parte minacciare. Con El Salvador il nostro "virus" ha trovato il primo ospite, ora dovrebbe arrivare il secondo, e poi via via gli altri, con buona pace del FMI. |
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