I was wondering if there are any big articles on Vanilla coin and Zerotime, seems like the major Bitcoin online magazines should be doing articles on it?
I honestly think we should propose as loud as possible the bold idea that Vanilla Coin is the coin to use for global payments, simply cause it's the best at doing so.
I don't think it's a good idea. The best way to be notice by ppl is the huge volume and high marketcap. No I didn't mean to market or pay/lobby to get an article in the major online Bitcoin magazines I mean surely there should already be some who are covering the Zerotime double spend story? |
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I was wondering if there are any big articles on Vanilla coin and Zerotime, seems like the major Bitcoin online magazines should be doing articles on it?
I honestly think we should propose as loud as possible the bold idea that Vanilla Coin is the coin to use for global payments, simply cause it's the best at doing so.
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WHat the hell about to put 900k in sell order ?  These guys have some BTC in backup I hope because we're going no where with this much  Oh hi dick... |
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Cause everyone wants to wait minutes or hours for their Double Latte to be paid for in Starbucks.....instead of less than a second. Yeah I see no real world use for this coin....worthless shitcoin......  |
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Basic FAQ http://vanillacoin.net/faq.phpRegarding tech imho VNL is better coin than any other coin out there so there is nothing wrong to say that. If anyone is offended or threatened with that fact it's his problem Regarding marketing, price positioning, communication about future plans and roadmap there are many better handled projects. I remember john-connor said that marketing will come but I just don't want to see VNL ends like Preston Tucker super advanced car. Marketing is a funny thing. I've been following altcoins for about 3 years and I can't remember once when I got interested, was informed, swayed, or bought a coin based on seeing some official 'marketing'. the best marketing is a rising coin and a community getting excited about it. Forced and contrived marketing beyond a well made ANN which we already have and Twitter etc is really not important. I firmly believe if you build it they will come, articles will be written as Vanilla coin gains in popularity as more and more people find out about it on here. I think Vanilla coin is in a unique situation right now, ie doubts about bitcoins utility which Vanilla coin solves. And like I said before people shouldn't sit looking at a coin that's worth less than 10cents holding Bitcoin IF they Truely believe this is going to 1$ at least. If you do where's the logic, saying it and doing that? We got to put our money where our mouth is. |
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We all should stop wasting our time trying to fight this kind of pointless FUD. The more we try to fight it, the worse it will get. Let's focus on these out there that haven't even heard of Vanillacoin, or these that are in doubt and don't know why they should invest in VNL. There's almost no one tweeting about VNL these days, except a small group of "hardcore tweeters"... We all should connect on Twitter, and retweet each other's Tweets, let the world know we're here! Also, I have seen this question so many times in different topics: What makes VNL so special, why should I buy it? It would be great if someone could write a FAQ about VNL, so we can refer these people to that document. For now, if they're lucky, they are referred to our OP, but I have also seen answers like: why should we spoon feed you, do your own research! Why should we act like a bunch of arrogant, offensive, "our coin is better than yours" teenagers? Don't forget most people are invested in more than one coin (like myself). Some of them do real research before they invest in a new coin, some of them need a little help to guide them on their way... I just hope we can put an end to these endless discussions, they are not worth it and actually even damage our reputation. For those who agree with me, feel free to follow me on Twitter and let's start a positive social media wave! I started a giveaway at my own expense, feel free to add some extra VNL to the bounty (pm me if you would like to contribute). https://twitter.com/ItSmEGoLdMaXx/status/634639427185319936Regards Goldmaxx I mainly agree but also the majority of those asking questions are not genuine, they simply are wanting to underplay the features. Call me crazy but while FUD can be negative, it's also a good sign, ie someone feels threatened. I imagine many are defending Dash and Monero, so we kind of turned up in the middle of a fight. My advice is not to worry too much about FUD, it's keeps the topic on top and doing all the communication by IRC can make a coin seem invisible. Best thing is to have a moderated thread if it gets crazy, but keep the unmoderated too. And let's not be too aloof that we don't want to talk about price and even encouraging price moves. I've seen many coins get focused on tech and eventually no one cares. And one last thing, price movement is by far the quickest way to advertise a coin. People who believe in the coin and have some spare Bitcoin shouldn't sit on their hands watching the market stagnate, they should get buying and create momentum. It's not pumping it's a move against those who want to accumulate too cheaply, coins in a few hands is not good. Get buying. |
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Nick Szabo tweeted this article, it explains the real issue with the XT Bitcoin.....personally I'm a non techie so I don't know the ins and outs. http://wallstreettechnologist.com/2015/08/19/bitcoin-xt-vs-core-blocksize-limit-the-schism-that-divides-us-all/What struck me was the point made about Bitcoin having to choose if it was going to a payment processor like VISA or a decentralised store of wealth as a hedge for fiat.....and it is impossible to be both. Am I right in saying Vanilla coin doesn't have to make this choice and can be both? It also makes me wonder if a Bitcoin is best as a digital gold while another coin might be better at the VISA job....I think you know what coin I'm talking about. |
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vanilla coin is an obvious winner cause it's now less than 1m marketcap and is the only coin to instantly and safely send...
Are you basing this opinion off taking the word of John Connor for the absolute truth, or have you formed his opinion by taking consideration of multiple technically literate people who've independently verified John's claims? If so, feel free to post links to any positive reviews of the technology that we might have missed. Because other than you promoting VNC here the last week or so we're coming up empty handed thus far for people convinced that VNC's tech actually offers a novel solution to any problems. White paper has been posted, open source, the coins sends, no one was able to double spend it. I'll turn the question around to you, why do you think it's a scam? It's POW, anyone can mine it, it's open source. What exactly do you think John Conner gets out of this? Scams usually are POS...or major premine....this coin has none of those. If you can answer with an intelligent response why someone would waste a year of there life coding, making threads, Twitter etc etc for a POW coin that isn't premined I will willingly say this is a scam. So far almost zero reason to think it is. |
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vanilla coin is an obvious winner cause it's now less than 1m marketcap and is the only coin to instantly and safely send...
Are you basing this opinion off taking the word of John Connor for the absolute truth, or have you formed his opinion by taking consideration of multiple technically literate people who've independently verified John's claims? If so, feel free to post links to any positive reviews of the technology that we might have missed. Because other than you promoting VNC here the last week or so we're coming up empty handed thus far for people convinced that VNC's tech actually offers a novel solution to any problems. I made this thread for people to be aware of the coin as many it seemed weren't. I explained the basic functions of the coin and now it's for people to research themselves if they are interested. |
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Dude, anonymity is so 2014. Tons of coins had it and its rather useless as you can be anonymous with Bitcoin itself. I'm pretty sure you're the founder of this coin, lol.
This coins main selling feature isn't anominity. It's just a feature essential to any coin. I think you misunderstand I'm not arguing for a pump I'm arguing for a useful ctyptocurrency.....you know in the real world outside Polinex and Bitcointalk.....yeah scary eh. Yeah I'm the founder.....one second I'm an idiot who lost passwords to NEM and found it too complicated next I'm reinventing Bitcoin....I know my limits maybe you should recognise yours Sherlock. |
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biggest oppotunity? LOL
And that from a guy who is splashing around in Ethereum threads, and attacked NEM cause he lost his stack cause he forgot his password.
Hugh credibility, buy this shitcoin asap.
Two can play that game i did t need to even look at your past posts to remember you were one of the biggest shrills for NEM......ie the biggest bunch of assholes ever to grace the crypto scene. And I also remember you and that community absolutely convinced you were going to be the biggest crypto every and beat Bitcoin. Bunch of assholes. So you're doing the same for Eth now yeah? Lol vanilla coin is an obvious winner cause it's now less than 1m marketcap and is the only coin to instantly and safely send....if you think that's not important for crypto as a payment mechanism then you need your head examined. Bitcoin simply can't be the money of e commerce unless it goes through other payment processors. ie misses the point. You can disagree and think a slower payment is better.....and that's your God given right to be wrong. fact is I've seen big projects come and go, NEM, NXT, all of the NXT built on projects etc and they have their little season everyone is interested and then people move to the next big thing......the fact is instant safe transactions may not be the obvious sexy function but that's all you need to be the best payment method of choice......mark my words when people have stopped caring about ETH...Vanilla coin will be going strong. |
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I can't confirm it but there is talk on a Polinex troll box of Ethereum double spending....lol
VNL is in the middle of a perfect storm it seems with a bitcoins problems and possibly a Ethereum failing where VNL doesn't .......they will be stealing VNL code I bet to patch it up...
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Frangipontoncalibratishous
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lol @ all the vanillacoin "RAHRAH" cultists in here. i'll give it to you that you do have "something" here but please stop with all the moon talk. you sound like every other over-excited coin backer of every OTHER coin out there. trust me, you do. unless vnl gets some sorta legit big time backing from some sort of investment or deal, the only way the price will moon is from an un-natural pump (already being manipulated on news just like so many coins out there - is the dev involved? who the hell knows). so enjoy it if it happens and sell what you can, because IT WILL dump back down...they always do.
Crypto needs big investment deals to be successful, really? I must of missed that memo. |
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The coin sounds cool and all but John is going to destroy it if he keeps alienating people with his attitudes and methods.
Fake whitepaper.
Fake code.
Fake investors.
The tech and coding is great I'll give him that but his methods are troubling.
If this is actually true in regards to vanilla coin than i do not see any way how this coin could be successful. People are already super wary about new coins, and acts like this will undoubtedly turn the masses away. Yep, all the threads on VNC here lately have really dug a very deep hole for that coin which will be difficult to recover from imo. In 2015 most people here have seen it all before and have very little tolerance for any sort of dishonesty on the part of the developer. My honest advice for OP and anyone else who is really convinced that the tech behind VNC is legit and ZT immune to sybil attacks is that they should get a group together, sell their VNC now, and use the proceeds from that to hire a new developer or two and fork VNC and go forward with a clean start. That seems like the most economically rational thing to do from where I'm sitting. Although in my experience in the altcoin scene people tend to put their emotional attachments ahead of their rationality, so I'm not going to be surprised if no one does that. Even with the skepticism around VNC now, I think a fair and transparent launch now with the VNC code base would probably attract a lot of people just because it would be something new. Coin gets a ton of FUD and lies and then those same people go about making a clone.....seen that before....usually it is the best advertising a coin can get that's it's something great. Did you ever see a clone more successful than the original? Where is NEM these days. Lol. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. All these fudders missed VNL boat and waiting for a fresh one and they honestly wouldn't care about "Dishonest" past of code they will hype, after a rehash of the old arguments. Truely hilarious that these same people who said the code is ripped off, doesn't work and won't stop Sybil attacks are NOW suggesting cloning.......YOU JUST CANT MAKE IT UP. |
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The reason its not going anywhere is because these things have been done before. We already have a coin that does anon and instant transactions. Even with something as innovative as Next and Bitshares they are still not "mooning".. too many coins, too many scams in crypto.. All the investors gone or back to BTC or just not interested.. I dunno.. I thought I would be rich by now. I assume you mean DASH which is partially centralised. Maybe you didn't get rich cause you didn't research properly. Dash, yeah been in and out of that one a few times. Vanilla, mined that one from the get go, sold it all on the first real pump a month or two ago. I didn't get rich because to me rich is several million USD and I'm not there yet. My point still stands. You asked why its not going anywhere and that's because its another anon coin where we have several already. Dash, as shitty as it is, has first mover advantage. Just like bitcoin. Will Monero or Vanilla surpass it? My guess is probably not since user base (community) seems to be the deciding factor here. Why else would LTC and Doge do so well? DASH is not decentralised.....what part of that don't you get? No one has solved double spend with instant transactions with zero confirmations, all essential if we are to have a safe quick payment system. The anonomous element really just the cherry on top. The big story is Zerotime. can I suggest you research more or at least FUD is a more realistic way. |
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The coin sounds cool and all but John is going to destroy it if he keeps alienating people with his attitudes and methods.
Fake whitepaper.
Fake code.
Fake investors.
The tech and coding is great I'll give him that but his methods are troubling.
If this is actually true in regards to vanilla coin than i do not see any way how this coin could be successful. People are already super wary about new coins, and acts like this will undoubtedly turn the masses away. Yep, all the threads on VNC here lately have really dug a very deep hole for that coin which will be difficult to recover from imo. In 2015 most people here have seen it all before and have very little tolerance for any sort of dishonesty on the part of the developer. My honest advice for OP and anyone else who is really convinced that the tech behind VNC is legit and ZT immune to sybil attacks is that they should get a group together, sell their VNC now, and use the proceeds from that to hire a new developer or two and fork VNC and go forward with a clean start. That seems like the most economically rational thing to do from where I'm sitting. Although in my experience in the altcoin scene people tend to put their emotional attachments ahead of their rationality, so I'm not going to be surprised if no one does that. Even with the skepticism around VNC now, I think a fair and transparent launch now with the VNC code base would probably attract a lot of people just because it would be something new. Coin gets a ton of FUD and lies and then those same people go about making a clone.....seen that before....usually it is the best advertising a coin can get that's it's something great. Did you ever see a clone more successful than the original? Where is NEM these days. Lol. |
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Easily the biggest scam in crypto right now. I wouldn't be surprised if this ended up being Paycoin 2.0.
Even if the ZeroTime implementation hadn't been REKT by mathematicians and computer scientists left and right, AND it was working... we would need a fair relaunch of a ZeroTime blockchain (NOT VanillaCoin) because of all the lies and dishonesty surrounding it and it's creation.
Dream on. Only after the combined relaunch of top 10 or no, top 30 of cryptocoins from coinmarketcap. There is nothing "dishonesty" surrounding VNL creation, you just frightened, but it's OK, you just a human after all. Posting fake code to trick audits and waste people's time? Dishonest Claiming to write the entire code from scratch when it's a blatant copy of bitcoin with a simple reformatting? Dishonest Removing the bitcoin copyright attribution and committing copyright infringement? Dishonest agree with u sir Meanwhile back on planet earth where most people aren't insane. You know what you agreed to right? You know that John Conner posted some fake code for like a day or two to call out the people who were attacking his work with no actual facts....who's dishonest him or the people that attacked him when they were actually lying three ass off? he also then posted the real code... Plus he called out some miners for stealing coins....again a sigh of dishonestly or integrity? I seriously might give up on this forum....people should be beaten with a stick when they talk such BS. John Conner is very real and honest and some have taken that as he is someone not to be trusted.....tired of talking to retards... |
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Till now the OP has not said what gives Vanilla Coin to be the biggest opportunity
Shut the fuck up......seriously. I completely get why John Conner doesn't want to come on here anymore... |
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The reason its not going anywhere is because these things have been done before. We already have a coin that does anon and instant transactions. Even with something as innovative as Next and Bitshares they are still not "mooning".. too many coins, too many scams in crypto.. All the investors gone or back to BTC or just not interested.. I dunno.. I thought I would be rich by now. I assume you mean DASH which is partially centralised. Maybe you didn't get rich cause you didn't research properly. |
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