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1441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMS]| SOCIAL MESSAGING APP THAT PAYS |PRE-SALE LIVE NOW| on: December 31, 2014, 01:03:51 PM
The google play link shows item not found


Upgrade your phone to latest OS you can and it should find it. I think it automatically blocks apps it knows wont work.
1442  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMS]| SOCIAL MESSAGING APP THAT PAYS |PRE-SALE LIVE NOW| on: December 31, 2014, 01:02:17 PM
Anyone else getting your device is not compatible? I'm pretty sure it's a setting issue as it's not that old a phone.
successful even on a xperia p  Tongue

Not working on Samsung Galaxy S2
Not Working on HTC Desire HD
Work like a charm on Samsung Galaxy S4


The Galaxy S2 will probably work with an operating system update. I haven't tried it yet cause I can't find a USB to phone cable which you will need to update with KIES.
1443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMS]| SOCIAL MESSAGING APP THAT PAYS |PRE-SALE LIVE NOW| on: December 31, 2014, 05:47:02 AM
Anyone else getting your device is not compatible? I'm pretty sure it's a setting issue as it's not that old a phone.
1444  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How are doomsday preppers using BTC in their plans? on: December 29, 2014, 09:02:56 PM
For me Bitcoin is not good for a real doomsday as an universal survival tool. But it could help. A little bit or a little more, depends on how the whole Bitcoin scene and market evolves. Smiley


One word 'Confiscation'. In a real doomsday economic collapse you can be sure many governments will turn to their people for wealth, including Gold and Silver confiscation. No one can real prove you own Bitcoin and if you say you lost it all playing Bitcoin casino then that's the truth. Plus you can move wealth over borders which again is essential if your government decide they want your stuff and will put capital controls up to stop you going anywhere with it.
1445  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Aaaah... The good 'ol days... on: December 29, 2014, 08:50:38 PM
I believe in the market. people have been trying to control scams and legislate the hordes of new coins but the market has simply grown tired and disillusioned now, a natural decline. I think the days of 1000% pump coins on marketcap knee jerk pump and dumps are well and truly over. These days the power is with developers who can convince people in an IPO to invest or not. Huge movements after IPOs are all but dead.


It was a fun time but it's healthy it's over.
1446  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How in the FUCK are you supposed to know what's legit? on: December 29, 2014, 08:44:29 PM
Seriously...between each community fluffing their own coin and the haters on the "neutral" boards shitting on every coin that's just past it's prime, how are you supposed to know what coin is the most prudent investment?

I understand that "research" is worthwhile, but there's only so much you can learn from a coin's website.

this is bullshit.

I don't even look at shit websites. They do reveal nothing. The website is always shiny. Doing research/due dilligence does NOT mean to look at the stupid website

you go look for these things:

-is it newbe-dev? if yes: stay away if no: make sure the account used wasn't bought
-next you look for premine. Does it have one? Then skip! (do not buy into the lies of funds are needed for xy or won't be accessed because it's all lies)
-IPO/ITO/ICO SKIP!
-If it hasn't a premine  and no presale and wants to say it's a legit and fair coin you then go on the blockexplorer and see if the blocktimes and rewards of  the first few thousand blocks are what they should be - if the blocktimes are faster than what they should have been stay away cuz it's an flashmine/instamine/something fishy
-do not touch coins with short initial distribution aswell. A good coin is mined for months and years not just days - this is important so you have some distribution of the coin wider than just the 5 blokes who have been around for the ninjalaunch and 5 days mining.

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so now you have ruled out already 80% of (shiny) altcoins you don't want to touch. Your odds for profit as investor are now greatly increased.

You're welcome.


Logo, promises, graphics, website, roadmap is  worth nothing with a freshly released coin. These things need to be ignored from the getgo because they are only there to lure YOU into buying it. Ignore the glitter. It's all pigs under the lipstick. Do NEVER buy coins based on promises of xy feature or other things beingreleased in the future because most of  the times it doesn't happen. I can not stress enough: DO NOT BUY PROMISES

a coin needs:
-community
-hashrate
-devteam
-real longterm prospects
-moderate to low inflation (pos interest is inflation too) - 5% in a year is fiat-inflation; so it should be below 5% in a year to be healthy. 
-good distribution between as many people as possible  

coins that do not have the above do go nowhere.

From this angle looking at the website is a waste of time. That's what you do last.


Why do I keep seeing people say to skip IPO's. half the top 20 coins on CoinMarketcap are IPO's. Plus whether you like it or not IPOs have become the way most new developments are being distributed.

and no Newbie account? Well you would of missed making a fortune with NXT for one thing. You can't follow absolute rules, you got to have a bit more sense than that to spot winners.Plus you got to be willing to be wrong too, that's where the best learning takes place.
1447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How in the FUCK are you supposed to know what's legit? on: December 29, 2014, 06:56:09 PM
Seriously...between each community fluffing their own coin and the haters on the "neutral" boards shitting on every coin that's just past it's prime, how are you supposed to know what coin is the most prudent investment?

I understand that "research" is worthwhile, but there's only so much you can learn from a coin's website.


Let's get this straight, you are upset that the way to make an extreme amount of money isn't somehow labelled on the product so you can easily identify, buy and therefore become massively wealthy?

I'm going to go ahead and assume you are under 18.

I don't think he's upset about it,  its just that the market can no longer sustain this.
People are just trying to figure out which coins are actually trustworthy & have genuine value.







Replace upset with exasperated then, it doesn't change my point. This always been the Wild West. But just like the Wild West that is when fortunes can be made. If the OP wants 'Legit' and safe I suggest the OP buys a tracker fund earning 7% per annum.
1448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How in the FUCK are you supposed to know what's legit? on: December 29, 2014, 06:54:47 PM
If there's IPO/ICO it's 99.99% percent scam.
If there's more than 0.1% premine it's scam.
If there's not a roadmap, what's done so far, it's scam.
If it was instamined it's scam.
If the ANN topic is self moderated it's probably scam.

There're lots of other things, you need to check out the whole ann page to understand it.



Rules can guide you but if you follow them religiously particularly the ones above you would of missed most of the biggest most promising projects of the last year or two. Rules will get you someway but having a bit of discernment of the developers intent is essential.
1449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How in the FUCK are you supposed to know what's legit? on: December 29, 2014, 06:51:36 PM
Seriously...between each community fluffing their own coin and the haters on the "neutral" boards shitting on every coin that's just past it's prime, how are you supposed to know what coin is the most prudent investment?

I understand that "research" is worthwhile, but there's only so much you can learn from a coin's website.

Its hard to know. Most of the coins could promise features but not deliver. So its impossible to know, which one to pick .


It's not impossible, it's difficult. Two very different things. Though actually if you have some intelligence and you learn to check things out and what to look for then it is often not that difficult.
1450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How in the FUCK are you supposed to know what's legit? on: December 29, 2014, 06:48:48 PM
Seriously...between each community fluffing their own coin and the haters on the "neutral" boards shitting on every coin that's just past it's prime, how are you supposed to know what coin is the most prudent investment?

I understand that "research" is worthwhile, but there's only so much you can learn from a coin's website.


Let's get this straight, you are upset that the way to make an extreme amount of money isn't somehow labelled on the product so you can easily identify, buy and therefore become massively wealthy?

I'm going to go ahead and assume you are under 18.
1451  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMS]| SOCIAL MESSAGING APP THAT PAYS |PRE-SALE LIVE NOW| on: December 29, 2014, 03:09:58 PM
While I get some guys not wanting the color scheme I am betting most who hate it are North American or Russian Grrrrh. cause the color scheme is not that feminine to Europeans who sometimes wear pink and also Asians who can't stop wearing it. So if you look at many asians chat apps they are all a bit childish/femine/ cute looking. I think the color scheme for now needs to stay how it is and also should not jump to have options. Pink gives it a bit of a difference factor and also will help sell the crypto for women thing. But the main reason I think we shouldn't change the color to have options is I find having options never gives a strong identiy to a product. It's like Google home page etc when you can change it to anything you want it stops being an identifiable brand. Sticking with one color is really important in my opinion. Everyone knows FB's Blue, Kakoa talks Yellow, Lines Green, Skypes Blue etc etc.


So I say stick with one whatever you do. You can look at toning the color down a notch maybe but having multiple colors when you are trying to devlop brand awareness is silly.



*Anyway this is pink http://img3.findthebest.com/sites/default/files/2307/media/images/t2/Rose_Pink_430103_i0.png


I'm not sure Gems is Pink. more Salmon? Haha
people don't need to hate it, the colour is good and memorable but there always needs to be an option. while you are talking about Line you should know that it has many themes, it even has a theme shop.....  Roll Eyes


Fair enough but I still say keep one color for promotion..
1452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMS]| SOCIAL MESSAGING APP THAT PAYS |PRE-SALE LIVE NOW| on: December 29, 2014, 02:59:30 PM
While I get some guys not wanting the color scheme I am betting most who hate it are North American or Russian Grrrrh. cause the color scheme is not that feminine to Europeans who sometimes wear pink and also Asians who can't stop wearing it. So if you look at many asians chat apps they are all a bit childish/femine/ cute looking. I think the color scheme for now needs to stay how it is and also should not jump to have options. Pink gives it a bit of a difference factor and also will help sell the crypto for women thing. But the main reason I think we shouldn't change the color to have options is I find having options never gives a strong identiy to a product. It's like Google home page etc when you can change it to anything you want it stops being an identifiable brand. Sticking with one color is really important in my opinion. Everyone knows FB's Blue, Kakoa talks Yellow, Lines Green, Skypes Blue etc etc.


So I say stick with one whatever you do. You can look at toning the color down a notch maybe but having multiple colors when you are trying to devlop brand awareness is silly.



*Anyway this is pink http://img3.findthebest.com/sites/default/files/2307/media/images/t2/Rose_Pink_430103_i0.png


I'm not sure Gems is Pink. more Salmon? Haha
i agree

salmon pink

John agrees..

1453  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMS]| SOCIAL MESSAGING APP THAT PAYS |PRE-SALE LIVE NOW| on: December 29, 2014, 02:35:04 PM
While I get some guys not wanting the color scheme I am betting most who hate it are North American or Russian Grrrrh. cause the color scheme is not that feminine to Europeans who sometimes wear pink and also Asians who can't stop wearing it. So if you look at many asians chat apps they are all a bit childish/femine/ cute looking. I think the color scheme for now needs to stay how it is and also should not jump to have options. Pink gives it a bit of a difference factor and also will help sell the crypto for women thing. But the main reason I think we shouldn't change the color to have options is I find having options never gives a strong identiy to a product. It's like Google home page etc when you can change it to anything you want it stops being an identifiable brand. Sticking with one color is really important in my opinion. Everyone knows FB's Blue, Kakoa talks Yellow, Lines Green, Skypes Blue etc etc.


So I say stick with one whatever you do. You can look at toning the color down a notch maybe but having multiple colors when you are trying to devlop brand awareness is silly.



*Anyway this is pink http://img3.findthebest.com/sites/default/files/2307/media/images/t2/Rose_Pink_430103_i0.png


I'm not sure Gems is Pink. more Salmon? Haha
1454  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | 100% POS | Assets | Names | Voting | Open Source on: December 29, 2014, 11:58:34 AM
what's the next big update for qora,
someone dumped again.



What's the matter? I thought it was a good idea to hold back for months on becoming OS and not when the coin was actually getting attention.

I won't say I told you so.
I am always holding the coins and not selling ,
I can wait, but what's the next big bang?


There will be a minor pop on AT completion and maybe a new skin for the wallet but I fear they are already known about and won't do much. BUT I have a hunch and this is pure speculation but this coin could in theory be massive, want to know what?

I know nothing but my understanding is the GEMS messenger project has the vision to add other coins later to the app. Well Daniel Peled who was an active member of Qora and has even said he would like to do something with Qora at some point would be quite positive about Qora being added to the app. Like I said pure conjecture on my part but IF the app blows up and they do look for coins to add then I like Qoras chances above even coins like NXT etc. It's a lot of if and buts, but it could blow Qora upward. So I would hold at least some coins long term, even a million or so would be worth a small fortune IF the senario I mentioned actually happened.
1455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Give me your best sales pitch why I should buy your PoS coin. on: December 27, 2014, 09:03:09 PM
But please don't bore me with long explanations. Your PoS coin should be so good it practically sells itself.


You give me one for continuing to support Bitcoin POW when it is now uneconomic for any average guy to mine and only those with already large resources can engage in it? This is before we go into why burning computers and energy around the globe is a sensible thing to do. Bitcoin is now in all practicality a distributed POS coin now and functions as such.

So was the POW distribution of Bitcoin fair? The amount Satoshi holds would destroy any POS coin today under claims of Premine and scam.
1456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How are doomsday preppers using BTC in their plans? on: December 27, 2014, 08:56:05 PM
There wont be a doomsday, but there will be massive riots and certaily some civil unrest (vigilant mobs, vandalization, street riots,etc)

Yet  i dont think the the BRICS will be affected as much as the Western World, communist China even now hosts the majority of the Bitcoin servers and mining stuff.

So if the $$$ AND €€€€ collapses i think the BRICS will take over, and the BTC wont suffer that much, instead it will rise to 1-100 million dollar / BTC as the american billionares will try to save their wealth, because the government will put sever capital controls, bans gold transfers ,etc.

So i think that China, Brazil and the other BRICS members (Russia i`m not sure as it relies too much on oil), will survive.

Also Norway,Australia ,NZ, and the mini states (Hong King,Singapore,Macao,etc) have also a high probability of not being affected economically.

But definitely the EU and the US including Canada will be decimated, the US debt bubble is just too big and the western world cant handle it any longer.

That's a pretty good summary of the future but the least of our worries will be civil unrest. The only problem with that theory is the predictable behavior of New Rome (North America). The Romans only know one way to bring their economy back from the brink of distruction and that's by gearing up the war machine to full production. That can only leave a wake of distruction worldwide. Even if the individual battles remain conventional it will massively effect worldwide electronic transfers because any good battle plan includes crippling communication channels.

So what BRICS+Iran+North Krorea  vs NATO + South Korea + Japan +Commonwealth

I dont think so, there may be tensions building up between Russia and USA, but i dont think there will be any war, its mostly rhetoric, and hopefully the US citizens now know that the war is not a solution.

Also if they get into this was, then the US soil wont remain intact, because in all previous wars, they never get hurt while other countries were destroyed to dust, in this war they wont.
So where will the banksters hide if not in the US, so they cant afford to get into a war with Russia because they both have ICBM's and stuff like that.

Nah, that's too conspiracy theory, they may be reckless and powerhungry but they are not that idiotic to get into a full globar war, especially now that we have atomic bombs, its just too risky.

A global war isn't really necessary to support the economy with increased production. Multiple smaller theaters with confined conventional weapons will work well enough to dig the superpowers out of the hole they've buried themselves in. The U.S., the USSR and China have already fought proxy wars using pawn countries. Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Cambodia, Ethiopia, El Salvador, Cuba and several middle eastern conflicts were supplied by the superpowers. China dumped masses of armament and technical advisors into Vietnam during that war. I think mutually assured destruction works and don't believe any future war will become nuclear. That's not to say that a lot of the worlds infrastructure can't be destroyed along the way. Bitcoin will suffer in parts of the world when that happens.

Unfortunately, the U.S. citizens are not really in control of their military structure. The U.S. propaganda machine works pretty well and can fend off the citizenry until well after the damage is done. I've been watching my country shit on other nations for more than 50 years and I don't expect it stop anytime soon. As bad as the economy is currently I don't really see how we can avoid a war. We need war, the economy needs war. The powers that be think they can kickstart the economy by using oil reserves to dump the cost of a barrel of oil. That simply won't be enough.

Well the only "justified" place to make a proxy war now is Syria, maybe they come up with some excuse.

The problem with that is that Putin clearly said that it will not tolerate any more American "interventions" in the middle east, the drone strikes are probably justified because it doesnt violate any war protocols, but ground troop invasion are probably off limits.

Other than that i dont think they can come up with another excuse to invade some other country, because the world will know what they are doing.

Especially since they dont want to give back Germany's gold, Europe has a really bitter looking face towards USA.

I feel sorry that your government is so warmonger, but i just dont see what excuse it can come up with to go into war with another country other than Syria.


A war in Syria is Justified! Well at least the MSM didn't fail on twisting your soft mind.

Assad compared to the groups he is fighting is the moderate one. Syria has long been a target for the west to cause trouble because Syria has close links with Iran and the west has hoped to drag Iran into a war for years now. Most of the fighting in Syria is done by people from outside the country. The much publicised gas attacks were as we know later done by Muslim groups hoping to blame Assad. If you want to know in a simple way who is on the side of good ask the Christians in any Middle Eastern country. Assad has always protected them until now and have been largely slaughtered.

Is Assad a perfect guy? Nope but just like Saddam Hussein sometimes it's the relatively moderate dictatorship that holds the extreme Muslim groups back and containing them. You only have to look at Assad and see he is a moderate, before this uprising western leaders would regularly meet and have good relations with him. What Assad did was when there was the Middle Eastern uprising in his country he was quite tough and did go in hard. But those he went in hard on are the kind of Muslim groups we are fighting in Iraq etc anyway.
1457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMS]| SOCIAL MESSAGING APP THAT PAYS |PRE-SALE LIVE NOW| on: December 27, 2014, 12:26:41 PM
Has there been enough publicity for the Chinese? All the articles on the getgems website are Japanese for Asia. the Chinese thread on this forum is almost untouched as well. I know there are many on this thread who are Chinese but maybe a Chinese article or two would be good?
1458  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PBOC Ex-Deputy: No Space for Coexistence of BTC and CNY in China on: December 25, 2014, 03:01:18 AM
The former deputy director of the People’s Bank of China has stated that virtual currency can exist in tandem with government-issued currency in a public speech.

Speaking at the Sanya Forum international finance event, Wu Xiaoling asserted that “private money in a digital form can coexist with government money” and that such a situation is “the norm in human society.”

[...]

Sounds great, but, "Wu was the deputy governor of PBOC. Now she's more like an economist and a think-tank supporting PBOC's policymaking. People still listen to what she has to say, but we should not "over-react" the importance of this speech." commented by LakeBTC CEO.

So that's the reason why the bitcoin price down after her speech without rising

http://cointelegraph.com/news/113113/pboc-ex-deputy-space-for-coexistence-of-digital-and-government-currency-in-china


You might want to edit your title.    "No"
1459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GEMS]| SOCIAL MESSAGING APP THAT PAYS |PRE-SALE LIVE NOW| on: December 24, 2014, 06:34:21 AM
Is this bullish for GEMS?

"Thailand’s Government Claims It Can Monitor The Country’s 30M Line Users"
http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/23/thailand-line-monitoring-claim/

For your info, LINE's overall user base is very small (170 million Monthly Active Users (MAU)) but they have top market share in Japan,Taiwan and Thailand.
"【Corporate Announcement】LINE Corporation Announces 2014 Q3 Earnings"
http://linecorp.com/ja/pr/news/en/2014/862


Line and Kakao talk I believe should be the model not Whatsapp or Telegram. Asia is a big market and shouldn't be overlooked. Asians like cute stuff which Gems fits well.
1460  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: And 2014's Worst Currency Was...Bitcoin (Bloomberg) 12/23/14 on: December 23, 2014, 07:38:43 PM
I wish people here would simply dismiss media from the mainstream about Bitcoin or anything economic really. The mains channels are bought and paid for by corporate interests and therefore banks. CNBC literally acts as a voice piece for the FED so why would anyone care what they say?


Sometimes you get people on these shows that get it but normally they are derided. An intelligent discussion on Bitcoin would simply say its highly volatile in Dollar terms because of the relatively small scale Bitcoin is at and people moving in and out therefore produce massive swings in price. BUT the big picture is its only really gone up so far, the recent drop in context of the massive move up is insignificant. End conversation, go home.
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