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4741  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Real Problems with American Healthcare on: April 27, 2019, 10:21:56 PM

 You will often find doctors who run a cash only practice will charge considerably less because of the removal of all of these compliance and documentation issues for example. Doctors spend more time doing paperwork than anything else, and that is retarded. Giving the government more power is not a solution because it is what got us here today.


I'm enjoying this discussion and I get where your head is at, but in this case more Government power and regulation is the answer.

I know this is bitcointalk and there is a tendency to lean towards being anti-centralization, and to have concerns about Government overreach. But there is virtually no evidence that the health system in the US would be better if there was less Government involvement. I can say that, because every other OECD country doing better than the US on healthcare has much more Government involvement.

If you're suggesting less Government involvement, then by default there would be more private company sway and freedom for doctors to treat and prescribe medicines as they wish, with essentially no Government body of oversight that can represent the consumer/citizen who needs healthcare. This is an issue. The power imbalance and information asymmetry between doctor and patient is massive, and there needs to be protections in place for a consumer to not get ripped off, receive poor treatment, or get given drugs they don't need.

As an example, those big pharma ads in the US about 'ask your doctor about how xyz drug can help you today' are criminal in other countries, because Government made the call that profits do not determine health treatment. Doctors are also not allowed to get kick backs from pharma companies for over prescribing their drugs. If you want health needs to come first, the answer is not less regulation and Government involvement, but more.

To put in perspective - none, and I mean none, of the OECD countries have a model anywhere close to the current US model which clearly suffers from private company profits prioritising consumer needs. The US should look to other OECD countries who are absolutely dominating the US system on providing a more affordable, efficient and a better health system. Many (not all) OECD countries do not even have a private insurance or private treatment component - it is all publicly and centrally funded, so Government can achieve economies of scale, set fair subsidy rates for drugs and work with the medical profession to subsidy treatments based on evidence (not on where doctors get kick backs from big pharma).

IMO this very US idea that 'Government should stay out of my life' just doesn't work when we are talking about healthcare. You want the Government accountable to meeting the health needs of the population, just like you want them accountable for national security, education and public infrastructure.

Every other OECD country is different than ours for one. None of them take in as many immigrants, none of them are as large by population, none of them have as much diversity as the USA does. You make a claim "there is virtually no evidence that the health system in the US would be better if there was less Government involvement." which is a quite ironic statement considering you are making a claim of no evidence while providing no evidence to support this position. The fact is there is plenty of evidence, just look at every government program ever. They always expand beyond their mandate, inflate prices because the customer doesn't care and its just "free money" to them that the public foots the bill for, then the prices get more and more bloated as the middle men like insurance agencies, banks, and lawyers start working their way in.

The marketplace is cutthroat. That means if one organization is full of worms, people can go to the more efficient worm free version because it provides better service at a lower cost. Unfortunately with government regulations a system of protectionism and rent seeking is set up for these companies which literally prevents competition and protects their monopolistic profiteering stranglehold. Don't make the mistake of thinking governments and corporations are different entities. While technically they are, largely they exist to serve each other in practice. This is why they need to be kept separate at all cost. I am not against regulation necessarily depending on how it is constructed, but this whole concept of government subsidy is a failure from the word go.

Finally, most important of all, all of these other dithering excuses aside, IT IS NOT THE US GOVERNMENTS MANDATE to provide you with anything other than what is explicitly mandated in the constitution. Again this goes back to the rights versus commodity arguments. You have a right to life, you do not have a right to mandate others spend years getting very expensive training to treat you for free just like you don't have a right to food unless you work for it. You have a right to liberty, but if your liberty infringes on the liberty of another, your right ends there. You have the 2nd amendment right to protect yourself with a firearm, you do not have a right to a free firearm. You have a right to have access to healthcare, you do not have a right to receive free healthcare.

Any time governments are allowed into these systems they inevitably destroy them. They add more and more bureaucracy that serves only to prevent actual competition and create systems of rent-seeking and protectionism for the huge mega-corporations. I argue that the current failures of our medical system are a DIRECT RESULT of GIVING government control over these issues, and attempting to subsidize them in the past that have failed, not the market economy itself. Much like people try to say "oh look the economy is failing we need more socialism!" when we have been introducing Socialist/Communist policy for many years which I argue is the actual cause of the failure these people championing more of the same claim to be able to save us from. Any time you create a system of dependence on what are supposed to be public servants, they now have leverage and therefore control over the population, transforming you into the servant of it and not vice versa.




We are somewhere on the second half of this chart.
4742  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Multiple Bomb blasts in Srilanka - churches and hotel. on: April 26, 2019, 05:44:34 PM

The Talmud is one of the most racist supremacist books ever written.
4743  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mother Forcing Chemical Castration & Gender Reassignment of 6 Year Old Boy In TX on: April 26, 2019, 05:36:51 PM

Exactly my point.
4744  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A message from the future with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on: April 26, 2019, 05:36:03 PM
Make sure you read the fine print of the question they asked.

"Some members of Congress are proposing a “Green New Deal” for the U.S. They say that a Green New Deal will produce jobs and strengthen America’s economy by accelerating the transition from fossil fuels to clean, renewable energy. The Deal would generate 100% of the nation’s electricity from clean, renewable sources within the next 10 years; upgrade the nation’s energy grid, buildings, and transportation infrastructure; increase energy efficiency; invest in green technology research and development; and provide training for jobs in the new green economy. How much do you support or oppose this idea?"


Oh that's right, the question was phrased in such a way as to create the pretense that it is a given this plan is viable and nothing more given. Additionally from your own report you will see the majority of the 966 respondents have never heard of the deal, which means no one had any idea what they were saying yes to.

Thats the point.  The question asks is what the Green new deal is and everyone likes it because "people like nice things" and it is only nice things.  Then, when they "learn" what it "really is" from Sean Hannity, they hate it because of the lies that it bans meat, cars, and airplanes.  

Moral of the story is that spreading misinformation about a piece of legislation is actually an affective strategy that can turn something almost everyone supports into a "controversy".

I didn't say anything about Sean Hannity. I don't even watch Fox. I don't even watch TV. This is all you just crafting a false equivalency in your mind so you can pretend one side is just as bad as the other therefor any opposing claims have just as much validity as my own. No. This is not how reality works. I did ONE thing, and that was objectively dismantle your shit source, and the shit misleading methodology used to collect it. You could ask everyone if they want free ponies I bet you that most people would agree, but then when it comes to how to actually produce over 350 million ponies, house, feed, and medically treat them, suddenly the question becomes more complicated now doesn't it? Ponies are nice things too, just as long as some one else has to feed and board them. The green new deal would be a nice thing, except for the fact it is not at all viable in anything but the mind of Captain Postmodern.
4745  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Real Problems with American Healthcare on: April 26, 2019, 05:14:48 PM
Healthcare is a commodity, not a right, and it is simple to prove. You have a right to travel, you have a right to defend yourself, you have a right to free speech. You do not have a right to the time and resources of others. In order to make healthcare a right you literally have to take time and resources from others by force, ie you take rights from some to give rights to others. The US healthcare system is broken, but if you can afford it you can get some of the best healthcare in the world right away, not 6 months after you get a referral which you waited another 6 months to get.

Even IF you wanted to take the argument of right vs 'commodity', it is still irrelevant to judging how broken the US health system is and its expenditure. You don't need to make a philosophical or political argument to show it.

As an example, if you look here you'll see that the US Government spends the same as most other countries on health (public funding through taxes), but your private expenses (that is, your out-of-pocket costs when you see the doctor) are TRIPLE that of comparable countries.

So the taxes spent by US Government on health are the same as other countries, but you're still charged triple in private expenses. It's pathetic. In reality, even the whole 'oh I don't want to pay more taxes for healthcare' argument doesn't fly. Other countries pay pretty much the same in taxes for health purposes but don't get slugged with excessive private fees.

But reforms still don't happen as the US hyper capitalist mentality apparently even extends to people dying in hospital. I mean, really?

On top that, people jump to assumptions that it can be explained away by a philosophical argument of 'socialist healthcare' (its not socialist, but I'll put that to the side) not being right for the US. And that the US is making a choice of paying less tax = higher private costs vs paying more tax = less private costs. Well, clearly not actually - the amount of US tax revenue going to healthcare is the same as other OECD countries not less - the US health funding model just lets doctors, specialists, hospitals and big pharma get a nice pay day literally at your expense.


I don't need to make a philosophical argument to show it, I need to make it to point out these knee jerk reactions will not only make the problem worse, they will cause SO many more issues people have no concept of. People like to run around saying things like "healthcare is a right", and it simply can not be, because in order for some one to have that right you have to help yourself to the rights of others, be it time or resources. That is not how rights work.

IMO we need to strangle the insurance industry for starters, they along with the litigious nature of this nations laws are the primary culprits. These systems were abused until systems of protectionism were created, then those protective systems themselves became the systematic abuse. You will often find doctors who run a cash only practice will charge considerably less because of the removal of all of these compliance and documentation issues for example. Doctors spend more time doing paperwork than anything else, and that is retarded. Giving the government more power is not a solution because it is what got us here today.
4746  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A message from the future with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on: April 26, 2019, 05:04:39 PM
https://www.oftwominds.com/blogapr19/productive-class4-19.html
4747  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Real Problems with American Healthcare on: April 26, 2019, 12:25:33 PM
Healthcare is a commodity, not a right, and it is simple to prove. You have a right to travel, you have a right to defend yourself, you have a right to free speech. You do not have a right to the time and resources of others. In order to make healthcare a right you literally have to take time and resources from others by force, ie you take rights from some to give rights to others. The US healthcare system is broken, but if you can afford it you can get some of the best healthcare in the world right away, not 6 months after you get a referral which you waited another 6 months to get.
4748  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mother Forcing Chemical Castration & Gender Reassignment of 6 Year Old Boy In TX on: April 26, 2019, 12:17:16 PM
https://governmentslaves.news/2019/04/25/dad-calling-gender-confused-daughter-a-girl-and-not-a-boy-constitutes-family-violence-bc-judge-rules/
4749  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Corruption in The White House. on: April 26, 2019, 08:46:01 AM
A lot of people in both parties are about to be exposed, tried, and convicted.
4750  Other / Meta / Re: Digital goods section is a mess on: April 26, 2019, 01:53:57 AM
I don't think restricting access to digital goods would be healthy; the better solution would be to create a new section for all the junk. Every solution has pros/cons, it's just about which one will have the best end result. Goods isn't listed as "physical goods", and "invites & accounts" is classified as digital goods still.

The entire section of the marketplace needs a revamp to be honest - as unlikely as that is, the forum has grown to a point where its level of activity is becoming a problem in sections like these.

Who gets to decide what "junk" is? This is very subjective, again going back to my point of judging features/offerings by the standard of the value they have for you personally only. Pointing out problems is easy, finding a viable solution that doesn't just create more problems is not so much. Perhaps what we need is a marketplace section which is limited to allow further ranked up members only to post there to escape the noise? This way at least you could see more legitimate/useful offerings and the nickel and dime stuff from the noobs is segregated to its own area where it can still be seen but will have less exposure comparatively.


Anybody has any idea about the amount of transactions happens on that board? I always read the stories about someone got scammed there by "Autosell" link in the "Locked" thread.
Removing of the self -moderated thread should be done.
I am not against the thread locking but locked thread cannot be bumped for at least 2 days after unlocking.

Sellers should be encouraged to create a single thread for all related articles, I am currently seeing multiple threads by same seller for all closely related services.

Just continually removing features is not going to stop ignorant people form getting robbed. Self moderated threads/locking serve legitimate purposes of being able to control what is essentially a sales ad, not a discussion.
4751  Other / Meta / Re: Digital goods section is a mess on: April 26, 2019, 12:06:26 AM
Absolutely, a lot of things must be done there:
  • Adding new subsections, as you propose. They could include: gift cards/coupons, domains/websites, scripts/templates/software, ...
  • Better checking for items not on the right sections, too frequent bumps, illegal items, ... Maybe another moderator is required in addition to the existing ones.
  • Showing trust to guests or requiring to register before visiting that section
  • Disabling self-moderated threads and not allowing to unlock locked threads

How have I never noticed your threads? The last three are especially true. It's completely necessary, and I imagine the fix is extremely simple and won't take 5 minutes. Self-moderated threads should not ever be a thing, locking threads to unlock for a bump should not be a thing, and trust should always be visible. I'll visit your threads, the marketplace could be so much more active and efficient, as well as alot less scams happening if these simple changes are made.

The self moderated threads were largely put in to place FOR the marketplace section because some users would use them to harass/troll people trying to trade legitimately. The logic being a sales ad does not necessarily need to be a conversation, and any fraudulent activity can be dealt with by rating, posting in scam/rep, or reporting forum abuses. The same goes for locking threads. It is a mistake to consider only the features valuable to you personally as the only valuable features, because that kind of thinking works both ways. I would suggest a rank requirement to post any digital goods. The only problem is, as it is now, people will try to post digital goods in other sections to get around this mess. About 80% of the posts I report in the goods section is stuff that belongs in digital goods currently, so there will be blow back to other sections as a direct result.
4752  Other / Meta / Re: Merit Source Application - Squatz1 on: April 25, 2019, 11:59:25 PM
I think this member would be a valuable contributor as a merit source as they are otherwise.
4753  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: April 25, 2019, 01:42:46 AM
This demonstrates clearly Flying Hellfish either judges people or judges them based on his opinions of their opinions, but most certainly does not judge people based on the merit of their words.

No, this demonstrates that FH doesn't like you and Spendulus. It can be because of your opinion. But it can be because you're both stupid assholes who love to say shit without proving anything, and once you've soaked the room with your own shit you like to yell "PROVE YOUR POINT" while dancing in your own shit xD

Is that why he removed several posts which were literally nothing more than links and titles from reputable news outlets?
4754  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evil MAGA hat kids from Covington School VS Native American on: April 25, 2019, 01:03:06 AM
Tim Pool runs down some recent history as far as who instigated what violence when:

' "Journalist" SHOCKED That Antifa Are Listed As TERRORISTS By Security Agencies" '

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbdC-vMJxdE
4755  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do we expect the Mueller Report to Contain? on: April 24, 2019, 04:49:50 AM
I wish I had the time to read the whole report in that amount of time.

The Mueller report is obviously not a neutral document and was written by a group of partisans. Further, the directive was to investigate the relationship between the Russian government and the Trump campaign.

I am pretty sure they wrote it in a way to make Trump look bad, even if what he (or his campaign/administration) was doing isn’t illegal. I also suspect that episodes were put in the report doesn’t necessarily reflect what actually happens on a day to day basis.

I don’t think there is any question that the Russian government expanded resources to help the Trump campaign. I am also interested to see what else they did in regards to meddling in the election, IIRC they used Twitter trolls to help Sanders during the primaries. I am curious if they did anything to help Clinton in 2016 (or 2008) that might have come out if she had won. I am curious what other countries did in 2016. Probably most importantly, I am curious to know what other countries did in both 2016 and previous elections.

The FISA warrants (that were made public) said that Russia has been trying to meddle in US elections for Decades, or more accurately, Generations.


What were most of the reasons for redactions in Volume 2? Was it for ‘ongoing investigation’? Or for other reasons (investigation techniques, national security, or personal privacy)?

It is also a valid point to mention that Muller has been in office and over seen some VERY shady shit during his watch. He among others behind this organized attack was a desperate attempt to cover their own asses. Muller is right in the middle of it.
4756  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do we expect the Mueller Report to Contain? on: April 24, 2019, 01:09:59 AM
For anyone who actually is interested in the severity of what the Mueller report contains, do one tiny little exercise and replace Trump with Clinton or Obama...  If a Democrat had done 1/10th of the things in the report imagine how the GOP would react.

Fucking hypocritical cunts in this thread LOL.

They have done 10 times this and more. You will see how the rest of the nation responds to this coup attempt. I know this because I have been monitoring their illicit activities since about as long as I was able to comprehend politics as a child. They are part of a long standing criminal cartel responsible for unspeakable crimes, and they are about to see justice. You have fun playing with your Muller shaped Ouija board interpreting the narrative as best serves your delusions. Down deep you know you are wrong but your ego will not let you admit how badly you have been duped. You choose to remain in that painful state of cognitive dissonance as long as you want, you are only hurting yourself at this point. Real justice will soon be served and you are going to have to learn to cope with reality sooner or later.
4757  Economy / Services / Re: [WTS] Dispute Resolution and Mediation Services on: April 23, 2019, 06:10:29 PM
Many of the issue caused due to misunderstanding and  resolves by proper communication   so somebody willing to work patiently with both parties will be a big plus.Your services can really help there.
Unfortunately there are so many di*kheads in this forum that mediating anything between them in this forum will be waste of time.
I agree with you and in most cases they cut off all communication channels, or better still press ignore.
Mediating could have been helpful in some cases but the personality of individuals will be a big challenge in that area too.

That is exactly what I am here for, to find a way to function with the conflicting personalities myself in order to organize a solution which will allow ego to be put aside to result in a maximally beneficial solution for all involved parties.
4758  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do we expect the Mueller Report to Contain? on: April 23, 2019, 06:07:52 PM
Certainly, anyhow the most important part about the report is whether trump colluded with the russians or not and it's pretty clear in the report that he did not, end of the story, everything else is meaningless, the media has been saying trump is guilty since he was elected, they should be held accountable.

They will be. That is exactly why they are so desperate to cover this all up.
4759  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Multiple Bomb blasts in Srilanka - churches and hotel. on: April 23, 2019, 05:25:24 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-23/isis-takes-credit-sri-lanka-attacks-were-retaliation-new-zealand-mosque-massacre
4760  Economy / Services / Re: [WTS] Dispute Resolution and Mediation Services on: April 23, 2019, 08:04:51 AM
Your services demand is highly welcomed and in great demand though we may not directly think so, mediation is to maintain peace between two or more parties especially becoming the voice of the voiceless and resolve conflicts.
Please let us know the areas or aspects that your services covers and criteria to apply.
Thank you

For now I will have to operate on a case by case basis. Of course I would only mediate activities legal within the USA. That is my hope, to be able to be a trusted reliable neutral party to step by step break down the conflict and offer potential resolutions. This could either be binding or non-binding depending on participant preferences. IE they can leave me to make the final decision (binding), choose from my proposed solutions, or even ignore them completely (non-binding). The cost would be largely proportional to the amount of time that would be spent working out these details. If anyone is currently having a dispute they wish to resolve feel free to PM me to discuss solutions.
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