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5361  Other / Meta / Re: Is a campaign manager responsible for preventing low quality posting? on: May 18, 2018, 04:09:30 PM
I know theymos doesn't want to ban all signature campaigns, but why not start with banning the campaign managers that give financial incentives to spam?
Exactly. We already see the owner of the thread (whether it's someone acting on their behalf or not) get trashed when offering incentives for posting on their altcoin threads. I don't see why we couldn't enforce something similar for campaign managers. Frankly, some campaign mangers are raking in the money, but literally just accepting whoever scrapes off the street and posts their format.

I would wager that some of the bounty ones I've seen are completely automatic, and there's no checks or anything. At the moment they are contributing to the plague that the forum is riddled with.
5362  Other / Meta / Re: New Report to moderator stats ;) thank you theymos on: May 17, 2018, 10:54:39 PM
I think now Vod and LoyceV will be happy with the new stats. They were the ones pushing for this extra data.
Next step is to get a data dump on the report stats, it will be good to see how many are actively reporting Wink
In addition to this it would be nice to know the average reports per week/month. Could put into perspective how much the moderators are actually dealing with. (hint: a lot)

It would not be a big deal for the reporter because we are not reporting just for the stat but to make the forum clean from spammers and users that are present in the forum.

Hope we can filter our reports in the future. (Just a suggestion)
We've already seen people bring up the issue when their accuracy drops in the past. I feel it could become more common now once someone sees that one of their posts was marked bad. Especially, since before this implementation accuracy didn't fluctuate where as the new system does.

It is legitimate to know why in order to improve our reports quality imo.
Well, i don't ask for it urgently but hopefully it will happens in the future.
I consider this as a good move. Thx theymos.
Yeah, I like the new stats. Although, it could have the opposite effect, and prevent people reporting posts they aren't 100% sure on as the stats are much more accurate now. Hopefully, that isn't the case though.

I remember theymos changing how the report percentage was calculated before to a more precise way. Although, was quickly changed back. Here's the quote:
Since so many people have so many reports, I changed the percentage on the reports page so that it uses proper rounding instead of ceil() and shows 1 decimal. Actually, I changed my mind. This would probably make people feel subconsciously paranoid about reporting.

UPDATE: Seems we have a report history button which shows what reports have been dealt with now. Which I do like, a lot.
5363  Other / Meta / Re: New Report to moderator stats ;) thank you theymos on: May 17, 2018, 10:33:09 PM
I noticed that things were being changed step by step as I was reporting, and then hit a error for a few seconds thought I might of broken something for a moment. I particularly like the unhandled stats being shown could be useful if your ever wondering why a post hasn't been dealt with.

Hopefully people don't go on a rant when they see that one of their posts got marked bad though. Impressive stats from the both of you considering your relatively new. Good job.
5364  Other / Meta / Re: [WTF] I reported a post for plagiarism and my accuracy rate went DOWN!?! on: May 17, 2018, 10:02:34 PM

I also don't want to see the percent accuracy stat go away - in fact, I want to see which posts didn't make the cut so I can get better at aligning my reporting with what the mods think should be reported. Your other suggestion to move the accuracy stat somewhere else is fine, but I suspect it was put where it is now to discourage people from "revenge reporting" or the like.
Well, as I type this the report page is being changed up a little bit. It now gives you how many good reports, bad reports, and unhandled. The percentage is still there at the moment.

Along with a nice little message too:
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Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports.
5365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][VAR] 🐬 Blue Frontiers - Sustainable floating islands 🐬 on: May 17, 2018, 09:24:32 PM
Important question and I would say good enough answer for the time.I understand how big this project is and we can't expect from our dear Elwar to know every tiny bit for each sector and possible problems of this project, but doing pretty good info to keep us informed as best as possible. Though it is good that these kind of questions are raised already as it is important to know how team thinks and tackles possible problems.Also lot of people here that show interest in this project are eco-friendly most likely so naturally environmental questions will be present.

What I am also interested in is how is the island actually relocatable? What will move and island?
Yeah, I appreciated the response. But, will be looking forward to more in depth information about it. Obviously, they will be close to land, but getting the rights for a permanent source of water can be a problem. Most water mains would need to be underground, and that would cost quite a bit, and would likely be unpractical for such a project. If they are getting most of their water from rainfall there's also issues with pressure & flow which when a lot of people are drawing off the system could be troublesome, as this is the case for gravity fed mains too. 
5366  Other / Meta / Re: How Secure is BitcoinTalk? on: May 17, 2018, 02:11:21 PM
-Thank you theymos for the clarification,I really appreciate that.
I also hope that you will implement the public-key-registration system in the near future as I'm sure alot of people living in countries banning crypto are also worried about tracks they leave behind them please don't forget us.I'm a bit more reassured atleast not all actions leave permanent IP record

-Correct me if I wrong but I don't think that Tor having nodes backed by the NSA would cause a lot of troube to users as a node can't directly link to your real IP unless all the nodes your tor client picked are backed by the NSA

You would be correct.

The more end nodes you control in the network the more likely you are to control all the nodes in a circuit. If the NSA or any entity for instance controlled all nodes within the circuit you are using then they would be able to determine the IP that you use. This is why more nodes means more security, because it's more unlikely for one entity to control all the nodes. Although, with the spending power, and resources of someone like NSA there are concerns from a select few.

This probably isn't too much of a concern for someone who's accessing a forum that they aren't suppose too, but it's quite well known that journalists use the Tor project to communicate with "whistleblowers" and the like, and you can imagine why the government would want to listen into these. The motives are there, but I'm skeptical of how much of a problem it really is.

If you want extra protection some people connect to Tor via a VPN. Then you have to trust that VPN provider.
5367  Other / Meta / Re: Was Satoshi from USA? (during 2009-2010) on: May 17, 2018, 01:11:07 PM
- He will sleep during night like all of us and active during the day
Developers/coders are typically stereotyped of having inconsistent sleeping patterns, especially when it comes to big projects. Even though I appreciate the effort you've put into the post, and the images it's nothing more than speculation.

Don't know where you read that satoshi is from Japan?even if he has a Japanese's origin , he could be living in the USA right now.

Edit : removed links of images (it didn't appear rapidly)
People assume it, because "Satoshi" is a Japanese name.
5368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][VAR] 🐬 Blue Frontiers - Sustainable floating islands 🐬 on: May 16, 2018, 08:29:35 PM
How are you going about providing clean potable water to the residents? Normally, potable water is provided via water mains on land, and are sterilized with chemicals such as chlorine . However, the people behind the project seem adamant that climate change is a problem, and that you could relocate relatively easy. Then how are you going to transport your potable water?

You could go the desalination route just like cruise ships do, although this has proven costly. Eventually, you could have the need for a lot of potable water which might not be easily processed through desalination. Desalination has also been linked with climate change which I'm sure the people behind your project don't want to actively encourage.

I'm guessing that you will be collecting rainwater for a source of potable rain water with the involvement of American Rainwater Catchment Systems Association. Although, I would have my concerns about using rainfall for potable water. For example, it's very difficult to determine the amount of rainfall that might happen, and whether it will be enough to supply your ongoing residents. You could have dry days/weeks etc which could be a massive issue. What are your backup plans if rain fall doesn't alone provide enough to your residents?
What sort of capacity will your water reserve be holding?

I've skimmed your whitepaper, and haven't found you going into detail about water systems, water consumptions and contingency plans. I consider water to one of the most important aspects, and one which is often overlooked. I'm also interested in the system you will be using to determine how much maintenance, and how long it would take for the initial investment to prove while.

5369  Other / Meta / Re: Suspicious user (to me at least) on: May 16, 2018, 07:57:04 PM
I don't want to act like the devil's advocate, they've deserved the red tag.
On the other hand, I sometimes also do something similar (not the same, but similar). If I (rarely) receive a merit, I always check who was the user who have given me that merit and if he/she is not a Legendary, I usually chech the post history of him/her and if I find something that deserves a merit I usually give a merit too.
I'm doing this because I know how hard is to create such a quality content that will catch the attention of those members who still have some merits. I also still have some smerits because I have little time to read and write here daily, so my way of working in connection with the merit is that if I receive some, I'll check if I can also give it or not.
Please let me know if it's not a good practice but I think it's understandable and acceptable (I hope so).
I usually don't have a problem with people doing things like this as long as:
1. The post is of high quality
2. The merit sent is an appropriate amount for the quality of post.

Obviously, making a habit of this would likely seem a little suspicious, and one could perceive it as trading merits. Plus, if people know you do this they will likely give you more merits expecting some sort of return. So it's probably best not to do this, although for a one off I don't think it's a problem.

5370  Other / Meta / Re: An easy question - post count in BTC on: May 16, 2018, 06:55:44 PM
You've previously posted in the Serious Discussion section, and any posts in that section, and it's child boards don't contribute towards post count. Other than that the thread is almost certainly being trashed. Your post count isn't being miscalculated.
5371  Other / Meta / Re: [Guide]How to properly report rule-breakers.Techniques and tips.UNDER CONSTRUCTI on: May 16, 2018, 03:50:37 PM
When I come across a post that seems familiar or otherwise likely to be plagiarism I pick a distinctive phrase out of the post and do a google search like this:

"<distinctive phrase>" site:bitcointalk.org

And if there is more than one result then I report the post and in the comment field I mention the number of hits returned by a google site search of the key phrase. This is less cumbersome than trying to put a link in the comment field to an identical post, especially when there might be *hundreds* of identical posts to choose from.

For example, the last post I reported had a peculiar phrase in it that I had seen before - "mining and swimming pool" - so I did a google site search of that phrase and it turned up 110 posts that were all identical (make that 113 posts as of now... busy little spammers!).



You can do that also. Whatever, way you go about it you'll come to the same conclusion. Even, if there's hundreds of links/sources before the post you only need to include one which happened before the post. You could even combine the two if you wanted.
5372  Economy / Reputation / Re: User Vod abusing default trust list position on: May 16, 2018, 01:54:20 PM
Obviously, I have no knowledge of your private messages, and can't speak for what has been exchanged there, but bidding on your own auction is pointless. What's the point of having a auction start at a low price if you are just going to bid if you don't like the price it's currently going for.

Now in the future if you ever do run another auction no one is going to trust anyone bidding on that auction just in case you are bidding with alt accounts. Yeah, you used your main account on the previous auction but, that's besides the point. Having an hidden reserve price isn't really the issue, as quite a few auctions actually do this. Although, I agree that it's best to state your reserve price or just start the auction off at the reserve price.

You claimed before that you, and Vod have ran into problems before this whole thing, but Vod is entirely in his rights here to issue a negative feedback if he thinks it's justified. You might argue that you did it with your main account, and avoided using a hidden alternate account, but the principle is the same. You bid on your own auction, and prevented a user from winning an auction. It's not like it didn't have any bids, and you changed the starting bid. You actually bid on your own auction whilst it was in full flow. Well, actually it was close to finishing.

Do you not feel it was unfair to the person who was winning that auction to be outbid by it's auctioneer?
5373  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: Thoughts on DuckDuckGo? on: May 16, 2018, 01:35:06 PM
I'll be another one that prefers to use StartPage as an alternative to both Google, and DDG. DDG as a concept is great, but in reality it's too much of a pain to find the things that you want. Google is up there with the way it handles search results, and probably is the best other than for the privacy concerns. As JetCash mentioned Google also likes to give you a lot of it's results based on money rather than what you are actually searching.



5374  Other / Meta / Re: How Secure is BitcoinTalk? on: May 16, 2018, 01:26:11 PM
Would you ban my country's IP from accessing this forum if there is a court order? I'm not talking about crime related bans, just a pure access to information? if so then how would you suggest to avoid this?
Even if the unlikely scenario happened you could use a VPN/Tor browser to access the forum, and that's how you would avoid it. Even if theymos did receive a court order to restrict certain countries from accessing the forum he would likely be able to argue that it's down to the users if they break the law in their jurisdiction, and therefore isn't down to him. Cour
5375  Other / Meta / Re: Warning when posting to old threads on: May 16, 2018, 01:21:36 PM
This is currently in place here on the forum, however the warning is only present after 120 days instead of 14. Possibly reducing this number could result in less threads being bumped unnecessarily, but I do think 14 days is a little bit too low.

Message received when replying on a topic that hasn't had a reply in 120 days:
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Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.
 
5376  Other / Meta / Re: [Guide]How to properly report rule-breakers.Techniques and tips.UNDER CONSTRUCTI on: May 16, 2018, 01:11:39 PM
What to do with the same news on 'press' board? Yesterday I noticed one upon another,  same topic, same text, just the date was different, one was 05/14 and the other 05/1. That is not the first time I see such cases.

Any duplicate threads even if it's posted by a different user, but has the exact same content should be reported. When reporting such cases you should report the latest one, and include a link to the duplicate thread.

So something like: "Duplicate thread with the exact same contents. Here's the original post: <link to original post>"

If one has a lot of meaningful discussion on it, and the other one doesn't it's probably sometimes best to specify this in the report field. The moderator can then decide the best course of action, and possibly merge the two.

5377  Other / Meta / Re: How Secure is BitcoinTalk? on: May 16, 2018, 09:28:53 AM
The member's table has leaked at least once, and the forum has been hacked multiple times. Your registration IP address and your last recorded IP address as of when the members table leaked is more or less public information now. An unknown amount of additional information from the other hacks is potentially essentially public information as well.
I'm well aware that to be the case, but the OP registered well after the known database leak which I believe was in mid 2015. This is also why I mentioned it's not much of a big deal due to most IPs would have changed by now as you said here:
a user's IP address will have changed after several months (and to a much greater extent, after multiple years) anyway.   

First of all, I admire you for having the guts to continue engaging with crypto and also for not feeling discouraged at all despite the fact that it is banned in your country. At the same time, I'm a little bit worried to you because you may possibly punished by the law if ever you are proven guilty.

I'm not a total geek about computer stuffs but what I can suggest you is to use a VPN to hide your IP because that makes you anonymous everytime you will access the internet. I hope it helps.
This is also generally bad advise. Just because you are using a VPN doesn't mean you can trust those behind it, especially when confronted by a government authority they may release the information without even putting up a fight.

No log VPNs are good practice, but even these in the past have been caught keeping logs. Even, if you use Tor Browser there's speculation that a lot of the end nodes are actually NSA owned.
5378  Other / Meta / Re: Is a campaign manager responsible for preventing low quality posting? on: May 16, 2018, 08:46:48 AM
They should ensure the post quality made by their participants. Because participants represents the ICOs name. Who will invest on an ICO promoted by a spammer Grin.
Even if it hits the number of characters it should be still meaningful if it's not then it shouldn't be counted Wink.

PS:
Is there anyone reading a megaspam thread from page 1 to last? Do a member still reads after reading a 2 page rephrased replies? No right? Posts from a megaspam thread shouldn't be counted it's just a waste of money because very few members saw it's ad.
Take a look at suchmoon's reply above to get an idea why it does work, and why they aren't too bothered by quality only quantity.

PS:
Is there anyone reading a megaspam thread from page 1 to last? Do a member still reads after reading a 2 page rephrased replies? No right? Posts from a megaspam thread shouldn't be counted it's just a waste of money because very few members saw it's ad.
No, I highly doubt that anyone posting in spam megathreads have read even half of the pages let alone the whole thing. AFAIK most campaign managers have it in their terms that posting in such threads will not count towards post count. Although,  whether that's enforced or not is another thing. Especially, when looking at the bounty managers as they seem to have zero rules, and zero moderation over their campaigns.
5379  Other / Meta / Re: How Secure is BitcoinTalk? on: May 15, 2018, 07:29:47 PM
Only dynamic IP changes not the static one.And the dynamic one can forward to the static one so it's not a big deal.
Meh,since now more and more countries are banning Bitcoin/Cryptocurrency , theymos should atleast give some informations on how bitcointalk deals with these kind of requests if they are ever made by the authorities.
People also change ISPs and thus their IP changes. I was referring it not being a problem too much for the ones that were leaked if someone has changed providers not particularly you.



 
See? That's what I'm talking about. This kind of glitch shoundn't be there.

If I put an image in a post in this thread, then I can get a list of the IPs of the people who have viewed the thread. Cross refer a few threads, and I can probably isolate your individual IP.

This has happened before, and isn't allowed. See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=341146.0
Rauol Duke who was a member of the staff at the time removed it, and we can only assume that this isn't tolerated and these sort of things are checked.

See the discussion for ways to avoid this through extensions. E.g Request Policy You are also susceptible to this sort of breach of privacy anywhere you visit. For example, if someone posted a link of a image on Reddit/r/Bitcoin and, you viewed it.  It would require the person to actually own the website, and have the image hosted on their server. Therefore, they are pretty easy to identify, and as long as you have some sort of protection like requestpolicy (discontinued) you are fine. For example, uMatrix is pretty good especially when used in conjunction with uBlock. Although, it can make some ugly viewing at default settings you can whitelist/blacklist what you want.
5380  Other / Meta / Re: How Secure is BitcoinTalk? on: May 15, 2018, 07:04:12 PM
I'm trying to find a particular post which explained when a IP is logged. I do believe it was when registering, sending a PM or posting on the forum. I believe there's a log kept for every single one of these, but may be deleted over time. (probably not the initial registered recorded IP)

When the server was compromised back in 2015, the hacker had access to users registered IP, and last used IP. Therefore, I think it's safe to assume that the registration IP is always kept in the database. However, peoples IPs change so it isn't that big of a deal.

Although, I doubt that any country would forbid one for signing up to a discussion forum about Bitcoin. Barring your activities on the site it isn't likely going to go against you if all you've done is participated in discussion.

I really think that theymos  has to be more transparent about how user's sensitive informations are dealt with.
It's not like he's waving it around it public though, and only releases information on a person if he believes they are guilty, and the authorities have provided enough reason to do so. (like any server owner)

Plus, at the moment there hasn't been a database leak since you registered so your IP is currently not public as only admins can see it.
Edit:Especially that when registering with a public proxy from tor or a VPN,you have to pay a fee for it.


The unit of evil system is transparent:
Q: Why is my IP banned? What are those units of evil?
A: Your IP might be banned because it was used by a user that got perma banned. Don't worry - IP bans decay over time if there's not too many of them during a small period. If you register using a banned IP, are using TOR, VPNs or well known proxies, you will have to pay a small fee. This is to prevent spammers while allowing legitimate members to post without many restrictions.


That's included in mpreps stickied Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ theymos has also spoken about it before:
When you register, the IP that you used when you submitted the registration form is used to calculate your evilness. The more frequently this IP or its neighbors were banned, the more evil is associated with your account. The amount of evil associated with an IP decays slowly over time, but the amount of evil associated with an account does not. You must pay or be manually whitelisted to enable posting on one of these "banned" accounts.

Here are some stats:

Evil% new users
053
0-135
1-104.4
10-200.80
20-502.2
50-1001.3
100+2.9

Currently each unit of evil requires a payment of 4023 satoshi. You only need to pay something if you have 1 or more, though.
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